could he turn around the AEW ratings?

could he turn around the AEW ratings?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    His return will probably cause a pop if they do it right

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It 100% will. Nobody talks about it as much but he's been the ace of the company since the first day. Carrying the company on his back, saving cards with his best bouts while his body and health deteriorate.

      That being said even if Omega was peak Omega circa 2016-2019 he wouldn't be able to single handedly save AEW from this gargantuan hole that they're in. No single talent is going to be able to do that outside of someone like Rock or Austin caliber.

      His return will probably help prop the company up and give them a boost for a while but it'll take more than just Omega (assuming they book him perfectly when he gets back at that) to get AEW back on its feet.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sure there will be a momentary ratings boost to see how Tony handles him being outed as a pedo in 6 months

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    keep him away from the bucks for the love of god

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wish the same but its impossible. They're shoot best friends and Omega will happily let moon faced Buck and bald Buck leech off of his success. They've done it their entire careers. Rode the coattails of Devitt, Styles, then Omega when he arrived. Anytime they're on their own they know that they're exposed as shitters which is why they were in such a tremendous hurry to get Okada to fill in for Kenny.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The elite literally setup a promo where Okada will fight Hangman and Okada.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Permanently and significantly? Not at this point and not by himself. Having Kenny back will be a big plus for AEW in many respects but the ratings struggle starts and ends with the booking which is a Tony thing.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one can until they get someone in there that knows how to Book and Tony stays the frick away from booking.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah if they booked him like the fricking Cleaner

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      """The Cleaner""" is a myth. It's just Kenny Omega but wearing shades.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's just Kenny Omega but wearing shades.
        Wrestling is 95 percent aesthetics. Its like saying if Austin didnt shave his head he woudlve gotten over his rattlesnake gimmick

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But Steve Austin could talk and had presence. Kenny Omega is a terrible promo and looks like a child molester.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >looks like

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It’s called being an ethical pedophile

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Kenny's promos have been ass in AEW I agree but in New Japan his shit is a world apart and I can't explain why. Noticed that Kenny when he was building the first Ospreay match came off like he used to pre-AEW. It just makes me think Kenny's gives way less fricks about his perception in AEW than he does in Japan. People have said it but it just looks like he tries harder in Japan.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Kenny Omega is a terrible promo
            Hes average at best, which is why in his case presentation is much more important. If he comes out like a goof, as the ace of his company, it hurts the company. When he portrays himself more seriously (Cleaner/Best Bout Machine) the company does better for it. The ultimate problem is the Bucks, regardless of how he comes back, theyll immediately latch on to him, killing any momentum he could generate

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think at his best he was an above average promo. If S is the highest tier he's a notch under at A tier. Omega had more charisma delivering his promos in Nooj. You can kind of tell he just believed in himself and what he was doing more over there. He was way more into it. I do agree that some of it probably has to do with presentation. The Cleaner felt like a final boss. You were captured by his presence more. AEW Kenny is a jobber who's happy as long as he puts on entertaining matches kayfabe. People look at him like the kid who puts up a good fight but gets his ass kicked in every schoolyard fight. AEW Kenny is like a C tier promo. Not really great but does enough to move the segment along.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Steve Austin personally lobbied for WWE to hire him, only time he's done that I know of

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This. And when the Kenny Omega sweepstakes were going on remember how the WWE were putting up OLD old clips of Omega during his forgotten WWE developmental days as if to say “You’re one of ours Kenny! Sign with us and come home please!”. Omega wasn’t even under contract with them and the WWE were bending the knee publicly and without shame to try and get him. That should tell anyone enough about how sought after he was.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lest we forget it was VINCE’S WWE bending over backwards for Omega which is even crazier to think about

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            One of the two things

            A) Even senile old Vince knew how good Omega was at that time and saw an asset in him

            B) Vince absolutely could not wait to get his hands on him and book him in a storyline where a Swiffer broom is his romantic interest

            Considering how Vince pushed AJ Styles and tried to push Shin Nakamura before he almost killed Cena makes me think the former rather than the latter.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I kek’d so hard at the idea that Vince looked Kenny up and was just like “You know this kid kind of reminds me of Perry Saturn. I think I have something for him here.”

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The fact that he almost took them up on their offer speaks volumes considering his mindset. Cody's spot was probably what they pitched him.
            I've seen him wax poetic about being a big star in America and it clearly was messing with his head. The pitch they gave him must weigh pretty heavy on him.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Cody thing is popular headcanon but I can definitely see it. In hindsight seeing how his AEW career has turned out he should’ve taken one of the offers from the WWE. He would’ve been taken care of, comfortable, would’ve grown way more mainstream (would’ve helped his aspirations of getting into FGC streaming like he’s trying to kickstart now because he doesn’t have a choice) and they 110% would have given him at least one WWE title reign which would have been the perfect cake topper on his career.

            If they shoot offered him what they offered Cody and he turned it down not once but several times I can guarantee you that he’s incredibly frustrated with himself but that’s a decision he’s going to have to just hold onto.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            On a personal level, sure. But he's done so much for the industry by propping up the industry. Among the boys he's a legend and he's put food and lambos on a lot of plates by doing what he did.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He’s surely helped a ton sure. He’s still a legend in his own right. But like now I think Kenny pretty much tops out as a “cult favorite” so to speak. It’s like had the opportunity to be The Godfather but now he has to settle for being like Donnie Darko or The Crow something. Legendary but just not the same and is “cult” because of being off the beaten path, not as known but having a very vocal fanbase (I love all 3 of those films btw this ain’t a knock on them)

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I actually think he would have been more of a difference maker than Cody was, but still went against it because he wanted to stick to his code. I have to respect it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            keyword was
            now hes a crippled b***h trying to relieve his peak years

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're literally 5 years too late for this. The Cleaner has shown up once since AEW's inception and it was for the first Ospreay match at NJPW's Wrestle Kingdom and New Years Dash right after when he tagged with Okada.

      People talk about it more now retroactively but AEW fricked up with Omega royally whoever's idea it was and whoever signed off on it regardless. AEW signed The Cleaner at about the peak of his popularity and still near the peak of his powers. They proceeded to book him like a jobber the entire first year to tell the new audience that this incredibly hyped guy is actually shit and then they booked him as a chickenshit heel champion. He's mainly been "exciting match guy that gets his ass beat/loses often". You can't blame new fans for not being impressed with Omega or thinking he's anything more than exciting because AEW booking in 5 years has pretty much obliterated Omega's aura and presence that he built during his best years.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This could be an entire other thread but in hindsight they've almost completely wasted what they had giftwrapped and ready to go with Kenny. I get it. Scared to book an EVP as a winner. But he was the single hottest wrestler on the planet not in the WWE and they poured ice cold water on him for a year. He's never gotten as over or as talked about as he was since. Kenny should have at LEAST felt as strongly booked as how they booked Moxley when he showed up. One of Kenny's last promos before he was out he said something like "well I get my ass beat every week it seems like" to Ricky Starks/Big Bill and I'm just sitting there like it's fricking tragic but yes in 5 years that's what you have become known for to the AEW audience. Thank you for acknowledging it and further burying yourself.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remember last time he went away for a while and then his big return lost viewers? The Elite are anti-draws.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's the heart and soul of the company and they've been lacking that lately. It's felt like a spin off for a while now.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no
    he cant add new viewers because everyone who cares about him is already watching aew
    same reason ospreay and okada flopped

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's never been a draw. It's unlikely he'll become one after shitting blood and sawdusting himself.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nice piece Kenner

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What exactly is The Cleaner? How is it different from non-Cleaner Kenny Omega?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's kenny dressed in a dollartree T-800 outfit sweeping a broom, don't listen to anyone who talks about it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its the difference between The Game HHH and Hunter Hearst Helmsley

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Cleaner refers to Kenny's initial heel/tweener gimmick from 2016-about 2018 (I think Kenny was going by The Best Bout Machine going into the final Okada match but I could be wrong) when he was leader of Bullet Club. The gimmick itself was supposed to be Omega being "The Cleaner" referencing a hitman that does the nastiest jobs/would "clean out"/kill his division iirc. The early days were loosely inspired by Sly Stallone in Cobra and it eventually became more heavily inspired by The Terminator in his aesthetic (hence why the audience claps the T2 theme during Kenny's "Rise of the Terminator" somersault plancha to the outside).

      More importantly, The Cleaner was when Omega was booked more strongly like a top guy and while he still had some comedy in his Cleaner run (like "sweeping to the beat" with an actual broomstick during some of his entrances) Omega played him a lot more straight/serious than anything he's shown in AEW. The entire Cleaner gimmick from day one he literally said "I don't your company's stupid Lion Mark or the accolades. I want your money and your titles". The Cleaner was perceived as a winner. A guy that was looking to be the best among other things. Never felt like the jobber we got in AEW who leans WAY more into the "geek" and "nerdy" elements than he should. Basically The Cleaner was a more serious, top and winning star. AEW Kenny is goofy/comedic joke and jobber.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I fricking hate how the AEW commentary team don’t even know the name of some of Omega’s moves and in 5 years just call them by their generic ass names. For instance Rise of the Terminator or the Rain Trigger. I’ve heard them correctly call out the Dr. Wily Bomb and Croyt’s Wrath which is a miracle considering those moves were even older fixings in Omega’s moveset than RotT and the Rain Trigger.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    maybe for his memorial this year when he dies of aids

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kenny, Mox, Hangman, MJF... all these names could return next week and the ratings will continue to trend downward.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I bet this homie wishes he signed with the WWE all those times they were on their knees starving to sign him.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, he's part of the problem. Kenny has no character just like every one else in AEW.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    less than 100k swing so no

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wmif you give him a belt and keep the bucks away

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

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