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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that's certainly the face of someone who is arguing about 2000s ROH on twitter

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >good=profitable
    E-drones are terminally deluded.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know this is a shitpost, but while the argument that something being a commercial failure doesn't really make it bad isn't necessarily wrong, but you have to take into account the fact that there are far more commercial failures that sucked than there are commercial failures that were hidden gems, and with how much the IWC likes to shove their niche promotions down everyone's throats I wouldn't be surprised if at least over 50% of the casual audience heard of ROH or AEW or whatever contrarian thing, watched it, thought it sucked and tuned out. I know I sure did when I was just starting to get into online wrestling communities back in the early 2010s, and I'm talking mostly youtube shit, I wasn't a forum dweller. If you take all that into account, it's entirely safe to say that ROH was objectively bad, or at least mediocre.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it was good but no one bought the ppv, went to see it live, wanted to see it on demand or get memorabilia from it

        [...]
        [...]
        ROH always sucked

        This anon listens to music with 5 views on youtube and thinks he's superior to everyone else

        seething corporate bootlickers detected
        >AVATAR MADE THE MOST MONEY THAT MEANS IT'S THE BEST MOVIE EVER
        kys you moronic cuck homosexuals

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          why'd you sign ya post

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            why would I sign my post with a plural noun you fricking imbecile lol

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            huh why'd you sign ya post

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it was good but no one bought the ppv, went to see it live, wanted to see it on demand or get memorabilia from it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I recall their DVD sales were pretty good as far as indie shit goes but I don't bother record keeping dumb shit like that so DYOR.

      Yeah so? The shit they did wasn't nearly as moronic as what passes today, they went fast and despite working a trios match kept the sense that a lot of today's guys don't
      Modern wrestling is after all just half-speed 2000s DG

      ROH always sucked

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This anon listens to music with 5 views on youtube and thinks he's superior to everyone else

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        off topic, but I hate how the 3rd result in the recommended sidebar of every youtube music video is some 10 views AI trash music.
        Epitome of generic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can't answer the question tho

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how's your sex life?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, that is likely to only metric to determine something value is the demand for it, you fricking brain dead mark, please take a first class flight back to planet moron

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it was good but no one bought the ppv, went to see it live, wanted to see it on demand or get memorabilia from it

      This anon listens to music with 5 views on youtube and thinks he's superior to everyone else

      i'm being 100% sincere when i say this
      wrestling fans are the ONLY people in any fandom i've ever seen that actually tries to argue popularity = quality. there is no lower iq community on earth.

      If these aren't your favorite movies in this exact order, your opinion is objectively wrong.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've seen like 3 of those kek

        wrestling, a niche sleazy pasttime, is not like music or movies.
        and sometimes that less popular thing you pretend to really like isn't as good as you pretend it is.
        seethe about it troons.

        WWE isn't sleazy though. On-camera anyway. It's sanitised corporate slop.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >isn't sleazy
          all wrestling is looked upon as fake and sleazy tripe by the mainstream.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      McDonalds wouldn't be the billion dollar franchise that it is if their goyslop wasn't good.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        E-slop has rotted your brain.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >doubling down on being a contrarian moron
          what about the monday night wars though?
          and why was the best wrestling happening when it was at it's most popular?
          what's your answer for that?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >what's your answer for that?
            you're literally fat lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            btfod? that's what i thought. lmao
            stay moronic, stupid.
            thanks for playing.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I recall their DVD sales were pretty good as far as indie shit goes but I don't bother record keeping dumb shit like that so DYOR.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    2000s ROH wasn't good, it had some good matches and angles but wasn't good as an overall thing
    It's still better than current AEW or WWE match wise because they were driven morons who actually laid their shit in and the wrestling zeitgeist hadn't become trampoline ballerina fetishism

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      homie the first match in a ROH show that caught on was a Dragon Gate trios

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah so? The shit they did wasn't nearly as moronic as what passes today, they went fast and despite working a trios match kept the sense that a lot of today's guys don't
        Modern wrestling is after all just half-speed 2000s DG

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong, low ki vs danielson vs london

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ROH wasn't good until Cornette came in and made them profitable enough for the sale to Sinclair. Thank you, daddy Cornette.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only time I ever witnessed ROH shows get pelted with garbage is during the Cucknette era kek not even Madison Square Taven pulled that off.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dynamite is canceled lol

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah you're thinking of Cornette's employment in the wrestling industry.

          >it was good but no one bought the ppv, went to see it live, wanted to see it on demand or get memorabilia from it

          >ROH didn't sell merch

          I want to say this is bait unfortunately knowing this board it's just legit stupidity.

          [...]
          [...]
          ROH always sucked

          Lose 'em.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This was my reaction to that post as well. Didn't even bother respond kek.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty much all the 2000’s ROH guys are at the top of the industry 2 decades later in the 2020’s. They must’ve done something right, homosexual.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ROH must have done something right because ROH guys succeeded after they left ROH

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They were successful in ROH, too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Correct

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think I know more about wrestling than Michael Tobin. No need to reply to this cuck.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i'm being 100% sincere when i say this
    wrestling fans are the ONLY people in any fandom i've ever seen that actually tries to argue popularity = quality. there is no lower iq community on earth.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just call him gay

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wrestling, a niche sleazy pasttime, is not like music or movies.
    and sometimes that less popular thing you pretend to really like isn't as good as you pretend it is.
    seethe about it troons.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >MUST DEFEND MY GOYSLOP
      lol, dare i say lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the more popular thing is goyslop even if the less popular thing is just an inferior version of the more popular thing
        there's nothing worse than people with terrible opinion(trannies) being contrarian.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          alright bro
          when's the next marvel movie dropping btw?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >state that wrestling isn't like movies and can't be judged by the same criteria
            >HURR OKAY WHEN'S THE NEXT MARVEL SLOP GONNA COME OUT DURR
            cool non-argument you keep repeating, xir. i appreciate your hustle.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            just because you state something doesn't mean it's true you absolute braindead dumbfrick lmao

            >this form of entertainment can't be judged by the same metrics every other form of entertainment is judged by....... because it just can't ok!
            LMAO! ya just gotta love the drones baby.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >just because you state something doesn't mean it's true
            you mean like the whole "more popular things aren't as good" non-argument that you can't even elaborate upon, redditspacing?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Take your McDonald’s frenchies and shove them up your greasy fat ass you pathetic homosexual

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >another xir can't elaborate on xir's contrarian non-opinions
            you're one of those "why can't you just enjoy wrestling" morons aren't you?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Is mentally uncapable of decyphering a basic analogy
            You really can't make this shit up. What the frick is wrong with these "people" on this board? lmao

            >it struck a nerve
            no nerves were struck my gay, melodramatic friend.
            all i did was remind of you pro wrestling's place in the world and how it's not like your favorite music acts or tv shows, and you homosexuals sperged out about it.

            Care to elaborate? (If this guy ever learned about marketing I think his brain would explode.)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            what do you call an analogy that enforces a non-argument?
            a nonalogy?

            >xir thinks he's a marketing expert
            did they teach you about fast food analogys in your marketing class, xir?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Being this moronic and this proud of it

            >i was just doing a meme bro
            lmao.
            seriously you should go back though.

            Nah, you should go back.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the argument is that popularity has zero relevance in any discussion about quality, you imbecile. it struck a nerve with you because evidently you think WWE is the best because they have good tv ratings and attendance, or whatever reasoning that goes through your peabrain, that has nothing to do with how good their show actually is. and this made you mad.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it struck a nerve
            no nerves were struck my gay, melodramatic friend.
            all i did was remind of you pro wrestling's place in the world and how it's not like your favorite music acts or tv shows, and you homosexuals sperged out about it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            whens the next hellboy dropping?
            hellboy is aew if you couldnt tell

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            AEW is more like Watchmen.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    anyone defending ROH never actually watched it. for every bangerino with joe or bryan it had the some of the most low quality shit imaginable and terrible production.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Joe versus Kobashi.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Attendance: ca. 800
      It's objectively trash.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    didnt roh dvds sell pretty well? i remember seeing that one cm punk dvd every time i went to the store

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ROH was shit. Although I'll say some of their older 'PPVs' looked soulful as frick,the red and black canvas was based, and Danielson looked good in his matches. The roster always looked like midgets, though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dalton Castle is based and legit stronker than most WWE bodyguys.

      >just because you state something doesn't mean it's true
      you mean like the whole "more popular things aren't as good" non-argument that you can't even elaborate upon, redditspacing?

      >newbie got filtered by the redditspacing meme

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >i was just doing a meme bro
        lmao.
        seriously you should go back though.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not

          just because you state something doesn't mean it's true you absolute braindead dumbfrick lmao

          >this form of entertainment can't be judged by the same metrics every other form of entertainment is judged by....... because it just can't ok!
          LMAO! ya just gotta love the drones baby.

          newbie.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i'm sorry. i didn't realize the whole 'cord was in here defending xir's honor.
            i'll try to keep you troons all straight(lmao) from now on.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Go a single post without mentioning your fetish, scJerkoff. I'll give you 100 Bucks.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >troon doesn't like it when i use the troon word
            dilate about it for me lil xir. make a video so i can watch this time.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >literally can't do it
            this homie tappin' lol

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >tappin
            i don't understand new Black person lingo my gay hipster friend.

            You really don't understand what the word "quality" means, and seem to think it's an exact synonym for "success". It must suck being ESL. By the way, Twitter makes more money than this app, you should go there. It's higher quality.

            [...]
            Shoot 45 IQ

            shoot non opinion
            see

            >monday night wars
            >wwf finally overtakes wcw in ratings
            does this mean that wwf was the worse of the two companies in troon logic?
            please tell the class cordxirs.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't understand what tapping means
            to tap, like you just did

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Hahaha how can you be this stupid and still be able to type?

            >Racists
            somebody has to make fun of you for your Black person-brain, xir.

            Whatever variety of brownoid you are is at the bottom of the racial foodchain, and you have no standing to make fun of any other race.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >even the offer of his entire week's pay and then some can't override the urge for his fetish

            I almost respect the zeal.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >still redditspacing
            i do respect the zeal.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >zoomers pretend to have watched the indie golden years
    They'd have a fit if they realized how based indie wrestling was until their homosexual asses came in and ruined the scene

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >golden years
      >their biggest match couldnt even draw a thousand
      more like the brown years

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes McDonalds is the top quality restaurant!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          as explained, wrestling isn't like everything else. in this business, popularity and quality are linked 1:1.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Your fat ass sure loves McDonalds

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You really don't understand what the word "quality" means, and seem to think it's an exact synonym for "success". It must suck being ESL. By the way, Twitter makes more money than this app, you should go there. It's higher quality.

            what do you call an analogy that enforces a non-argument?
            a nonalogy?

            >xir thinks he's a marketing expert
            did they teach you about fast food analogys in your marketing class, xir?

            Shoot 45 IQ

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            but that's wrong, you fricking moron

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            proof? all the best eras of wrestling were the most successful

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >proof?
            you're literally fat lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're literally a troony with aids, now show any kind of proof

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You're literally a troony with aids
            nah you are

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ROH had great attendance, selling good cds and specially good buys
    the frick is this dude about
    do people enjoying WWE really sends everyone into a BIG SEETHE?

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >monday night wars
    >wwf finally overtakes wcw in ratings
    does this mean that wwf was the worse of the two companies in troon logic?
    please tell the class cordxirs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Please get therapy.

      >tappin
      i don't understand new Black person lingo my gay hipster friend.
      [...]
      shoot non opinion
      see[...]

      >doesn't know tappin' on a wrestling forum

      Racist possesses lower cognitive faculties imagine my shock.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Racists
        somebody has to make fun of you for your Black person-brain, xir.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >can't answer my question
        did it throw that trooney contrarian logic into question?
        lmao

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      seems like you're avoiding this question, xir

      Did that mushbrain seriously reply to a post twice?

      why is that?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I said "please get therapy". If you see queer shit everywhere, it's probably you.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yes i make fun of homosexuals for being homosexuals.
          but what about the wrestling question? what's your thoughts on that?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            GOOD MORNING, XIR

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >btfo'd and can't recover
            thanks for playing, xirs.
            the monday night wars question does kind of destroy your contrarian logic. i don't blame you for avoiding it. lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >He thinks he's talking to one anon ITT

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yes.
            that's why i responded with a plural preferred prounoun. xirs. because i think i'm talking to one anon itt.
            you're very smart for a moron.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Doesn't deny being a low IQ ESL brownoid troony
            Telling. Telling...

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah. it's called no selling shit offense, xir.
            >can't answer the question about the monday night wars
            >unironic use of ellipses
            Telling. Telling...

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            these trannies probably dont know what the monday night wars even was, theyre all zoomer morons

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's nice to know you can laugh at yourself.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I ain't explaining shit to a fat mark that looks like this

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Any numbers the public is given for a private company are extremely skewed, but what we can determine is, roughly, their increase in YOY (reported) attendance. Final Battle 2002 had 500 people. Final Battle 2003 had 1500 people. Final Battle 2004 had 700 people, but 2004 in general had more attendance because they were having more shows. In 2002 they had 12 show, 2003 they had 21 shows, and 2004 they had 23 shows. By 05 they were putting on about 3 shows per month and the attendance was staying steady. That means it's safe to assume that their DVD sales were carrying their increase in shows and production values.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did that mushbrain seriously reply to a post twice?

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