>Edge has a shitty run outside WWE. >Christian is the total opposite

>Edge has a shitty run outside WWE
>Christian is the total opposite
why tho

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Christian is a midcarder appropriately booked as a midcarder. Edge is a midcarder who gets presented as a main eventer, and that just doesn't work, especially when it's a charisma vacuum canadian.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lol frick you. Christian isn't good enough to main-event AEW? Have you ever seen AEW's main event?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don’t think Edge or Christian care about any belts in AEW, they have a shitty lineage with zero prestige and the company will be dead in 5 years, and both of them will be back in WWE in 3 years for their real retirement run. They’re both just milking Tony for a paycheck.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >shitty lineage with zero prestige
          That's how all belts start. Only dimeless homosexuals need to ride on the prestige built by actual draws. Real stars make it feel prestigious.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    edge did frick all to change his image while christian did.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Christian changed his image by doing Christian Coalition 3.0

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Edge is exactly as shitty as he was in WWE, outside of a two year-run in 2006-2007.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But what a fun run it was, one of only two non-boring things Cena was involved in.4gky

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Edge was all smoke and mirrors in the WWE. It was fake hype propped up by the McMahon marketing machine. Hell even with all that push behind him his last run in WWE was abysmal and he was getting booed damn near constantly.

    Meanwhile Christian has always had the talent to get people over. I have seen way too many wrestlers say that he gave them their best match that I can't just handwave it away by saying they are being polite. Christian isn't "the guy" but, a lot like Mick Foley, he is the guy that is going to make "the guy" the guy. Vince hated Christian's face and really went out of his way to prevent Christian from getting over. In TNA and AEW Christian has consistently been one of my favorite parts.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All WWE's "stars" are manufactured nobodies. They can never get on their own without overprotective booking.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Another samegayging peep Pajeet thread crying that edge came to aew just to have fun and steal Tony’s money.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Christian was always the Michaels. Edge's mega push was forced and WWE lost ratings during it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Edge and Cenas rivalry spiked the ratings actually

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, because of Cena.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wrong. Ratings were in decline when Cena was champ and then spiked the moment Edge cashed in the MiTB and took the belt off him. This is facts.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Source: Trust me bro.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If I’m wrong then simply post the ratings with an article from when Edge was champ in January ‘06 compared to Cena as champ in December ‘05. I’ll wait so you can look moronic.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's easier to get over as a heel on AEW. I bet Edge would do Christian's heel gimmick better.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think Copeland has been really good.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Edge has a shitty run outside WWE
    He hasn't though. It's been great

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cope. Edge has had better singles matches in AEW than he ever had in WWmeme.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Edge was the proto Roman with being overpushed and needing crutches to get over
    no idea why they were always so high on him

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Edge was all smoke and mirrors in the WWE. It was fake hype propped up by the McMahon marketing machine. Hell even with all that push behind him his last run in WWE was abysmal and he was getting booed damn near constantly.

      Meanwhile Christian has always had the talent to get people over. I have seen way too many wrestlers say that he gave them their best match that I can't just handwave it away by saying they are being polite. Christian isn't "the guy" but, a lot like Mick Foley, he is the guy that is going to make "the guy" the guy. Vince hated Christian's face and really went out of his way to prevent Christian from getting over. In TNA and AEW Christian has consistently been one of my favorite parts.

      Christian was always the Michaels. Edge's mega push was forced and WWE lost ratings during it.

      MUH MEGAPUSH PLS SIR LUV CHRISTIAN DEAD DADS SIRS

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are Indians the new troony boogeyman of this site or something?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Are Indians the new troony boogeyman of this site or something?
          First time on /aspw/?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          half of wwe fans are from india

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Neither Edge nor Christian are in WWE anymore so why is this relevant?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            jeets have a massive melty over anyone who leaves
            if you see threads and posts over someone leaving it's often them

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If flags were turned on you would see that a large portion of this board's userbase have the wheel on the rape bus for their flag. Pajeets infested /asp/ like rats and have been on Fhite since the beginning. They are legitimately the worst posters on this board. If you see a post here that is just the dumbest most Black person brained moronic take you have ever seen there is a pretty good chance it was made by some phone posting pajeet.

            That said we stan Subhojeet Mukherjee. He is the last honest journalist in wrestling. No bullshit, no lies, no console warring. He just tells it like it is.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is one of the most bullshit takes I've ever seen on here. Edge was never once in his WWE career afforded a portion of what's been repeatedly given to Roman. He was never once placed in any position where he could even remotely be 'the guy'. If anything he was the guy they endlessly fed to 'the guy'. Whether that be Cena, Undertaker, Batista, etc. His longest title reign was 3 and a half months. Roman's has been over 3 and a half years

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bullshit. Vince fricking loved Edge and basically positioned him as the top star of Smackdown. He was second only to Cena. You can go out to argue he was just third to Batista, but that was about it. Vince was horny for Edge

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >positioned him as the top star of Smackdown
          Where he got one throwaway title shot one time against Brock? As soon as he got his neck injury Vince abandoned any kind of plans for him. He came back and was sent straight back to the midcard on Raw. He's even said when he goes to cash in the MITB that Vince says something along the lines of 'prove me wrong' to him because he had such little faith in doing MITB that way and Edge even winning it at that point

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He should have never been close to a world or WWE championship. He's a tag team or IC level guy that got a push once the real stars left

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This. Same with HBK. Same with Bret. I remember seeing Edge with Big Gold and wondering WTF they were thinking.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You kidding me right? Cena was already shitting up the place and he was way worse than Edge

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This also applies to Cena, Orton, Batista, Rey, Jeff, Benoit, Eddie and RVD. 2004-2007 Vince was desperate and was throwing the top belt on anybody that got a semi-pop from the crowd

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Edge flopped as a face too, but Vince had more options so he didn't need to force him into that spot. And yes, the slimey heel wasn't booked as strong as Roman, who had been the top face for 5+ years before the turn.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Edge was extremely over as a face on Smackdown in 2001/2002, and then got injured which derailed his momentum; and when he came back in 2004 on Raw it looked like he was being forced to take Benoits’ spot as the top face so fans (smarks) turned on him for nothing, then the Lita and Matt affair happened and the rest is history

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is the truth. HHH tried to undermine Edge every step of the way. I'll never forget HHH laying out both Edge and Cena at the end of their feud, only for HHH to immediately turn face in DX so neither got their comeuppance and looked like fricking geeks. Similar thing happened later with the Jeff Hardy-Edge-HHH feud

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vince hating Cristian's ugly face held him back in the fed

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Getting yourself over outside of WWE is an entirely different animal and Christian learned how in TNA.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vince hated Christian's face.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Edge is 50, why are people acting like having a mediocre run at 50 years old is some sort of “see I told you, he always sucked” moment with insane revisionist history takes?

    The Rock is the only guy in wrestling history to still be able to legitimately move the needle at 50+ years old, why are people holding Edge to unreal standards? If you hate him than just say that, but to pretend he wasn’t a huge star and didn’t have multiple classic feuds, matches and segments back when the wrestling industry was at its peak is cope.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Edge and Jeff Hardy were never good

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Christian is a talented guy who never got a real run in WWE because Vince didn't like him for petty reasons.
    Edge was a guy who Vince thought was cool because he was tall and had a weird face so he strapped a rocket to him.
    Nothing Edge can do in AEW will compare with what he was doing when Vince (who despite was trannies say is the best wrestling mind alive) was holding his hand

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Christian is a talented guy who never got a real run in WWE because Vince didn't like him for petty reasons
      Single digit IQ take from a smark who just parrots IWC false propaganda. Fans never gave a shit about Christian in WWE or TNA, he is a boring shitter who does nothing memorable or impressive in his matches or promos. Christian was never athletic, never had a good look, never had charisma, never had a cool moveset etc Edge was the reason he got a job in WWF and he was always viewed as midget discount Edge, and rightfully so. Christian was and still is trash.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If his contemporaries weren't guys like CM Punk and Daniel Bryan you might have a point

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Christian has gotten over in WWE and TNA. He can operate outside of npc Entertainment and he did it organically, despite not getting a super push. Where's Edge gotten over? WWE only, and with a big push as the top guy. Christian could've gotten over in 90s WCW, I don't know if Edge could've.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Edge’s feud with Christian has been his best feud since he unretired though

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What feud did Edge have after returning that is better than the one he’s having with Christian? Orton, Seth, AJ, Roman, it all sucked.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      His feud with Christian sucks too

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Incorrect

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bro they've been at it for five months now. List what's been good about it

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Christian was cutting kino promos in late 04/early 05, but they hated him in WWE for some reason. So he left and became TNA champ in the mid-late 2000s. Then he came back again to that WWECW bullshit and had some decent matches with Orton in 2011. Dude was always a good heel, and the older he got, he became even better. Christian is just a better promo cutter than Edge, period.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Christian broke the one forbidden rule in WWE post late 90s. NEVER get over without the company's say so. Vince especially hated that shit

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >NEVER get over without the company's say so.
        So explain Benoit and Eddie? Christianetty was NEVER over, just because he once got cheers in Canada over Cena who already had go-away Heat at the time doesn’t mean he was over.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Vince saw it as a challenge to get all the underutilized vanilla midgets from WCW over (Benoit, Eddie, Jericho, Rey, STONE COLD etc).
          If WWF was your first landing spot and Vince only saw you as a Cruiserweight with no Star potential (Christian, Matt, Mr Kennedy, Carlito, Shelton etc) that meant you stayed in midcard purgatory because he thought his first judgement was always right.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Christian was cutting kino promos
      Promos that were so “kino” nobody remembers them. Edge is way better on the mic and it’s not close. You most likely weren’t born yet in 04 or 05.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hangman > Christian

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >disappears every time he gets over
      I'm really starting to hate this homosexual. You're only asked to work 1 time per week, how fricking difficult can it be?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lol same. though to be fair, i knew he was a gay the first time he left, right when they were gonna make him the face of the company, and when they needed him the most.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>Edge has a shitty run outside WWE
    Nah its fine. He had some good matches and his promos arent the greatest but a million times better than the shit he talked about in WWE

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Christian is severely underrated and Edge is severely overrated. In AEW where it is supposed to be a meritocracy, Christian is swimming and Edge is sinking because one can get himself over and the other has been a product for too long.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Edge is 2000s Kevin Nash. Certified anti-draw.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If Shah Khan dies will Christian run a promo on Tony

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Christian should have been the face of the industry almost 2 decades ago. He is a legitimate proven high main event talent as either a heel or a face who was constantly suppressed of his greatness in WWE because he did not satisfy any of his bosses fetishes.

    Edge is a solid upper mid-carder but cannot carry a main event scene on his own and typically needs someone at his side to bounce off of. Nevertheless, he was pushed as (B-level) main event talent because he was a tall Viking rockstar to Vince.
    That’s the difference.

    Also the fact that Christian’s move was seamless since there was so much he had already done outside of WWE as Christian Cage. He has a crowd nostalgic for that. Adam is just using everything from the Edge brand that he can without getting to use the name Edge. Christian is established outside of the WWE bubble while Adam is basically starting his career over in the twilight years of his career.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you moronic? Whatever little buzz Christian had in other promotions came off the strength of what he did in WWE, if you erase what he did in from 1999-2005 and to came to TNA fresh off the streets as a nobody he wouldn’t even have gotten a job

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > if you erase what he did in from 1999-2005 and to came to TNA fresh off the streets as a nobody he wouldn’t even have gotten a job
        D'Amore was there in '05. You're a moron, Hangtroon.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >constantly suppressed of his greatness in WWE
      Good morning sir

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Presentation and booking. Adam doesn't know how to not work as Edge.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Edge sucks and was entirely a WWE creation
    Christian actually has some talent

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Christian knows how to work his character effortlessly, fresh, interesting, engaging, over promo work that goes with his ring IQ. Booking, that's a whole other can of worms.

      Adam, on the other hand was/is D.O.A. There is nothing interesting, no legs, spine about this guy outside the E. Flat, no dimension, a character booked based on presence and slight fame arrival of a character that had been roughly established amongst bigger draws. In AEW Cope is nothing but a catch grab, veil down, revealing the business.

      Edge should've spent some ringtime outside of the WWE in the 2000s. It's good for a wrestler to get that experience. That's why the monopoly was bad.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        While that is most definitely true, Adam could of learned outside of the machine, definitely big benefit, let's get real was that an option of the times, nope. IT is not the case now, here we have a Superstar nude without the machine, the hype, stripped of allure, leaning on self-reinvention, can't, doesn't happen, go away hear, it's cringe, sad, and it shows in the product, which by itself is covered in muck happily ignorant enjoying its fall. Lack of critique, or unwilling to speak to...

        >t. former grassroots AEW enjoyer

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Christian knows how to work his character effortlessly, fresh, interesting, engaging, over promo work that goes with his ring IQ. Booking, that's a whole other can of worms.

    Adam, on the other hand was/is D.O.A. There is nothing interesting, no legs, spine about this guy outside the E. Flat, no dimension, a character booked based on presence and slight fame arrival of a character that had been roughly established amongst bigger draws. In AEW Cope is nothing but a catch grab, veil down, revealing the business.

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Two factors: The first is that Edge was a WWE lifer and hasn't worked outside that system since the Sexton Hardcastle days. Edge succeeded in WWE because he was great at doing angles, which AEW doesn't do well so he's never able to highlight his strengths. The second issue comes down to Edge just generally being weird since he's returned. It feels like he's obsessed with proving that he's an incredible ring general instead of just being himself.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Edge is a curtain jerker. He had 2 good feuds with Cena and Ric Flair and everyone thinks he's a top tier main eventer for the next 15 years.
    Christian always brings the best out of his opponents and always reinventing the wheel like Jericho but gets better with time
    Christian>Jericho>Kenny>>>Edge

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