>it's my last day in the company man, please just let me go out a champion.

>it's my last day in the company man, please just let me go out a champion. I promise I won't trash the belt on Nitro

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was only to Shawn, and it was because Shawn outright told him that he'd never put him over if the situation was reversed.

    At least, according to Bret, but it has been corroborated that Bret was willing to drop the belt literally any other way.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Of course he should drop the belt. You're going to leave for another company and not put anyone over? How does that make the WWF look?

      All he wanted to do was come out the next night, give a gay speech and vacate it there. Again how does that help put anyone over?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who cares what he wanted? Bret was willing to compromise and drop it to Shamrock or anyone who wasn't HBK. They didn't want to go that route.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bret fart

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i watched wrestling wit shadows and i do sympathize with bret. but the whole situation could have been avoided if he didnt have such a romantic notion of his character and of wrestling, generally.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Then he never would have been as good as he was

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bret acted like it wasn't about money, but the fact of the matter is that bad booking can screw with your perceived worth.
      It is sort of wild that you could have creative control written into your contract so you can just up and refuse to do a job. Hogan famously had that deal too. There's no way they still do that, right?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Brock had that stipulation and he used it vigorously when asked to job to guys he didn't like. Flat out refused to do any of DEANs hardcore wankery

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It wasn’t just his notion, it was also Montreal. It’s its own special area where kayfabe magically exists and Canadian wrestlers get a +10 boost. Jacques Rougeau beat Hulk Hogan because it was in Montreal and there was the whole PCO/Diesel thing as well.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I originally sympathized with Bret due to WwS making it seem like he would've stayed an extra night to drop the belt to anyone else but Shawn but years later, I found out that was a lie to make him seem like the wronged hero. He was just going to hand the belt over and then let them figure out how to get it on Shawn. He was 100% adamant that he was going to voluntary hand it over and gave no other solution but "You announce I was stripped of the title on Raw." He can blame Shawn all he wants but Bret was the prima donna here.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    biggest self-mark on the 90s. No wonder Phil idolizes him

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Also, I still entertain the idea that Montreal was a work as a way for Vince to get Bret out of his contract while maximizing his value for WCW and taking advantage of the heat. Vince also correctly predicated that Bischoff wouldn't know what the frick to do with Bret.
    Maybe that's giving Vince too much Machiavellian credit but it worked out well for him.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Has been confirmed by Jim Cornette that he told Vince to screw Bret over because it’s Vince’s belt, not Bret’s. Cornette didn’t really think Vince would do it though.
      Not a work, but worked out better for Vince in the short run because it gave rise to the Mr. McMahon character. Long term it was a negative though.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it's been confirmed by the biggest homosexual wrestling mark on the planet who's never had a good idea so it must be true
        Kek stfu clown

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Also, I still entertain the idea that Montreal was a work as a way for Vince to get Bret out of his contract while maximizing his value for WCW and taking advantage of the heat. Vince also correctly predicated that Bischoff wouldn't know what the frick to do with Bret.
      This is partly true.

      He knew Bret wasn't worth the contract and wanted Eric to have him and frick it up.
      He had no clue he would get so much heat for screwing Bret though, he thought he and the company would be babyface after montreal.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Has been confirmed by Jim Cornette that he told Vince to screw Bret over because it’s Vince’s belt, not Bret’s. Cornette didn’t really think Vince would do it though.
      Not a work, but worked out better for Vince in the short run because it gave rise to the Mr. McMahon character. Long term it was a negative though.

      there is no way it wasn't a work
      >bret I think they are going to screw you
      >still lets hbk put the sharpshooter on him

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bret stoically accepted his fate

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Montreal wasn't a work, pushing Russo to resign was, tho

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I'll drop it to anyone but Shawn

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >No cellphones, just living in the moment.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just do the fricking job you mark

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Montreal was a shoot because Vince would have admitted it was a work by now if it was. Bret would hold onto that shit to his grave though.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >uses the creative control that was granted to him in his contract
    NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    Everyone who isn't on Bret's side is a corpo wienersucker.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was not reasonable for him to not job

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vince would have never let backstage beef get this bad though remember

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >sorry Vince can't lose in my home planet

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And? Book the match on the moon. It would draw ratings like crazy.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >sure, I’ll allow my real life arch-nemesis to put me in my own submission hold during the end of this highly contested match where I veto’d Vince’s desired finish, what could go wrong

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kek this fricking moron really thought that

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stfu

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No he didn't you morons. Bret had more than one night left. He like a month left.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't his last day in the company, he had another week to go in appearances and his contract meant he couldn't appear in WCW until Dceember 5th.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is this even a debate? Maybe, just fricking maybe, if Vince wanted to avoid drama he wouldn't have had the belt on Bret when he was telling Bret to leave and go to WCW?? Vince wanted an issue.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its 3 thousand and fricking 500 kilometers between calgary and montreal, why was this moron talking about muh hometown

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    childhood is thinking Bret was in the right
    adulthood is realizing that both he and Shawn were homosexuals

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    100% a work
    >oh we just happened to be filming a documentary
    also how big of a fricking moron do you need to be as bret to think you were going to get screwjobbed and still let hbk put you in the sharpshooter?

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He had creative control going out in his contract. If they didn't want Bret to exercise it, they shouldn't have written and agreed with it. Vince deliberately did something underhanded because he was in a corner and he is well known for stiffing people out of money and then say what are you gonna do about it?

    Why wouldn't any other wrestler want to be in Hogan's position and have the same control over their career instead of having it subjected to the promoter's whims? The moronic WWE narrative is the peak of cuckoldry.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bret only put over Shawn once Shawn lost to Bret hundreds of times...It was a b***h move on Brets part.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think he would have trashed it, but he would have worn it on tv. Vince knew if that happened WCW could have won the war.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think OP reads girly magazines. Bret was booked for the MSG house show later that month oh and also THE REST OF THE CANADIAN TOUR WWF WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jim Cornette explained this
    Vince just didn't want Bischoff to be able to say he signed the WWF champion on TV

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know why they didn't just have Bret face someone else at Survivor Series, drop the belt to them, then have Shawn win it on Raw. It's not the first time they've done a 1 day title reign.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      or even have a 3way and Shawn could pin op

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If Vince gave in to Bret, he probably felt he would look like a mark and everybody would start b***hing about finishes and shit and the place would have turned into every other post-territory promotion
      There's a reason Vinnie ruled over the wrestling world like he did and it's cause he doesn't take shit from anyone even if they're objectively right

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're a moron. Bret had creative control to have that say. If any other moron could think they can pull the same shit, they would have been buried immediately. What a fricking dipshit.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes yes, Vince would have immediately buried any of his top stars as soon as they even thought of potentially stepping out of line when nitro was beating him in the ratings and he was at risk of losing them to Bischoff
          So to avoid having to do that he screwed Bret
          Simple as, I don't even see what there is to discuss here

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I was treated badly because I wasn't allowed to do everything I wanted to all of the time
    The guy is a sociopath.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who are you quoting?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        your mum

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          She said that?
          I'll have to hit her with the ol' huh what u mean next time

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