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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >3rd is bad

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      3rd in this one specific category that makes them look good. Not 3rd on tv overall

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      compared to reruns on a wednesday night yea

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      3rd out of 3 is pretty bad yeah

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Meltzer is objectively correct and AEW's growth has been disguised by the drop in cable homes. Every piggy pretends that cable decline doesn't exist, or that AEW is singularly responsible for it.

      >747,000 is good for a show that used to be capable of getting 1,000,000 viewers
      Aw frick yeah gimme that sweet denial

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >3rd is bad because cope cope cope cope cope cope cable decline cope cope cope
        nice cope dronie

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >3rd
          It was actually 31st I'm afraid

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >nobody comes in 3rd more than AEW

      >3rd is bad
      claiming they are 3rd is very misleading. there are different categories. see attached example. slopamite was 3rd in the entertainment categories BUT 31st overall. it even says aew was 22nd on the same night as well. so there are many different positions in different categories for the show to be in on the same night. plus dave cities cable having less and less viewers BUT ignores the fact that the show on right before slopamite STILL draws over 1 million viewers on a regular basis

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You and I both know why they keep coping and not telling the full truth

        YES, live viewing is important, but its becoming less important as shows move to streaming/on-demand
        YES, the 18-54 demo is primary -- but it's not as if the 55+ demo pays 2 cents on the dollar, it still pays a large amount
        YES, original content is preferred, but again, it's not as if advertisers only pay 20% of the ad rates if a show is a re-run

        Dave doesn't want to tell the truth because the truth will make Tony Khan look that much worse - and if Dave pisses off AEW fans, they will cancel Dave's newsletter by the hundreds/thousands which will lower Dave's quality of life. That's where we're at now, Dave will only tell a minimum amount of truth to maintain the minimum standard of credibility - everything beyond that, he'll lie his ass off if that's what it takes to keep the gravy train going.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    are they really 3rd for all week? I don't believe that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      feel free to disprove it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      3rd for the week in the demo, cable only, and once you take out all sports shows. Then they’re third for the week, yes. The shows right below them are usually Sistas, Guy Fieri and Dr Pimple Popper.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Meltzer is objectively correct and AEW's growth has been disguised by the drop in cable homes. Every piggy pretends that cable decline doesn't exist, or that AEW is singularly responsible for it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's only real when you talk about Raw

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if it wasn't for the tv collapse AEW would be more popular!
      >the shows still drawing more this whole time would cease existing

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So why has RAW's audience dropped by 2/3?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >reading comprehension

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i'll smack the shit out of you if you keep disrespecting me

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            stop squealing hogwheels

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        AEW is more popular than it was in 2019

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >AEW is more popular than it was in 2019
          you can't actually believe this

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AEW only has cable. WWE has hulu, they upload whole matches and segments to youtube, you can rewatch old episodes on peawiener.
      AEW has nothing like that so when people don't watch that means they're skipping it altogether

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        AEW uploads full segments to their YouTube as well, but nobody watches that either

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is true and something Dave likes to mislead others about because he'd rather fellate Tony Khan than do his job.

        Comcast/NBC rushed to give Smackdown a deal on USA because they have access to all the real-time viewing habits and could have reasonably extrapolated/predicted how many subscribers would cancel if WWE no longer had a show on Cable TV. WBD also had this information when WB was under the ATT umbrella (ATT U-Verse), but I digress.

        3rd on cable for ENTERTAINMENT. Originally they were categorized as sports.

        In overall cable, they are in the 10-15 area.

        See above. Dave loves being a bullshit artist and only rambling about specific parameters that make his preferred outcome look good instead of looking at the entire landscape
        If the reality for cable TV is that, for example, 80% of people watch TV live and 20% watch DVR, then that makes live TV very valuable
        However, if the equation shifts to 50% live and 50% DVR, it makes the "X show is #1 on Y night, in Z demo, original programming only" framing much less meaningful

        Content is moving to streaming/on-demand for a reason - people are busy and don't want to be held captive by their television
        Advertisers are adjusting. Media companies are adjusting. Everybody but moron Meltzer is adjusting, he just continues to make bullshit excuses

        If Raw cut the third hour, it would getting close to 2 milly every week on Raw. They had a quarter hour go over 2 milly this week. AEW might not get a milly realistically but them sinking below 900k is not just because of cable and its time to stop using that cope. They lost 150k in 6 months. What happened right before September again?

        If you factor in Live+3 day DVR, it likely does get 2 million. 3 hours is a lot of wrestling to sit through without skipping any parts
        For Smackdown/Dynamite, both primetime and 2 hours, they likely don't get much of a Live+3 day bump
        I'd imagine AEW Collision/Rampage get sizeable DVR bumps that don't get reported for whatever reason

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cable is declining for sure. I get Hulu + Live TV, and the only reason I have it is that I'm a big WWE fan. Most people probably wouldn't want to pay an extra $65 a month (on top of the $25 I'd be paying for ad free Disney bundle anyway) for just a few shows they're interested in. That's true, and I'm glad that Raw is taking a step in the right direction by moving to Netflix. But even with cable declining, people are still watching WWE.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is he lying? Big bang theory beats it every week

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Third for original first run content not including professional sports?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >millions in new contracts just to be in the same place
    Good thing Tony's dad is rich

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >w-well ackutally...they should be hitting 500k! they are overperforming!
    lmao meltzy is such a pathetic lil fanboy

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what?

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pigs are so stupid

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >When you ignore everything going wrong for AEW, then AEW is doing great

    This is not journalism. I don't even know what this is.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >cable declining only affects Dynamite and not Raw
      frick off dronie

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >using the old "muh cable is declining" excuse when other cable shows are gaining in the ratings

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          WWE is gaining in ratings? lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If Raw cut the third hour, it would getting close to 2 milly every week on Raw. They had a quarter hour go over 2 milly this week. AEW might not get a milly realistically but them sinking below 900k is not just because of cable and its time to stop using that cope. They lost 150k in 6 months. What happened right before September again?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If Raw cut the third hour, it would getting close to 2 milly every week on Raw
            cap

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >lmao

            You post here all day, and I see why. Socially awkward, lonely, unfunny and balding.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            zoom out

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Its not fair that womens basketball runs on cable to steal aews ratings lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        RAW went from average 2-3milly to 1 milly
        both RAW and AEW have declined

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if you listen to dronies they'd have you believe only AEW has experienced this, and that it is solely due to Tony's booking choices

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >3rd is bad because cope cope cope cope cope cope cable decline cope cope cope
            nice cope dronie

            Why do the ratings never go up? You can't just dismiss this shit as meaningless. Nothing he does can pop an even slightly higher rating these days.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why, after having had cable decline explained to you for one thousand times, do you still refuse to understand the concept?

            Why, after having tracked AEW ratings for 5 years straight, and having never seen a single time their ratings have consistently gone up or down, do you still continue to believe that the content of Dynamite can affect the ratings number?

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    3rd on cable for ENTERTAINMENT. Originally they were categorized as sports.

    In overall cable, they are in the 10-15 area.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does anyone, AEW or WWE fan care about this? If you like AEW then watch it, if you don't then don't. Same goes for WWE. Or you can watch neither. Why is ratings and viewership should a big deal on this board? This is not WCW vs WWF part 2. This is nothing like that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      E-drones are the only people who care about it and they do so because they desperately need ammo so they can continue to pretend AEW is dying, and they will misunderstand any concept, take any statement out of context, and misinterpret any event in order to fuel their delusions of imminent AEW failure.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Proving my point exactly

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >E-drones are the only people who care about it
            >except for all the important executives who also care about it
            What is this mental illness called, and how do I avoid catching it?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I can promise you that zero network executives give a single frick about ratings quarters going up or down by 1%.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >1%
            Dynamite's ratings quarters are going up and down by hundreds of thousands.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Explain why a change of less than 10% is statistically significant

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're desperately pretending AEW isn't dying lmao. It's literally doing the same numbers that TNA did on its deathbed right before it got kicked off Spike TV.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You are pretending that AEW is dying because of cable decline
          And then ignoring that Raw is also affected by the same cable decline and pretending it doesn't matter
          You do this because you are a deranged low IQ E-drone

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the same numbers that TNA did
            The fact that you posted this statement indicates that you do not understand the concept of cable decline, and you probably also struggle with concepts like inflation/deflation and ratios in general.

            AEW actually is dying I'm afraid. Your delusional "DECLINE OF CABLE" cope can only go so far.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And why's that?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            AEW is dying because Tony is stupid. And your cope can only go so far because after a certain point literally no one on Earth will be gullible enough to buy your excuse that cable is declining.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And is your evidence of AEW's death related to the fact that its cable numbers have.... very slightly declined?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They were #3 on cable last night and #1 after sports. When did TNA ever do that?

            Cope and seethe lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Sign Okada for millions
            >Sign Ospreay for millions
            >Sign Jay White for millions
            >Sign Mercedes for millions
            >AEW budget has gone 10+ million dollars in the last year alone
            And your response is
            >And is your evidence of AEW's death related to the fact that its cable numbers have.... very slightly declined?

            At this point I don't think you're capable of having an honest discussion, I legitimately don't. AEW could add $50 million per week to their weekly budget, have Taylor Swift or BTS or similar perform every week, and as long as their TV rating is still declining within a certain range, you'd still excuse it.

            The absolute height of derangement and dishonesty and refusal to address a topic in good faith.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >signing the best talent in the world is evidence your company is dying
            It's the opposite
            WWE talent are paid even more than what you listed and you never complain about that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            WWE/TKO is a public company, we can see their revenue/expenses and multiple recent billion-dollar deals.
            WWE has "lost" Mercedes, Danielson, and others over the years and remain wildly profitable.

            Adding 30, 50, 70% to AEW payroll and having ratings decline is a bad thing
            AEW is a private company so Ratings are one of our few objective measures we can look at
            And what we can see is that no matter how much Tony spends, AEW continues to lose interest -- ratings AND attendance

            You can continue being dishonest and low-effort all you want, keep trying to piss me off all you want, it doesn't change the facts
            Congrats on tying me up and wasting my time, I hope it's worth whatever moron agenda you're pushing to all 25 people who participate on Fhite daily

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you pretending that cable decline is only a problem for AEW and not a problem for WWE?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >And what we can see is that no matter how much Tony spends, AEW continues to lose interest -- ratings AND attendance
            Why are you pretending that this is not a result of the overall decline of cable which is measurable and has been reported, confirmed and talked about across multiple media outlets? I don't understand why you continue pretending this is an AEW thing, when it also happens to WWE. Are you being dishonest or are you just dumb?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            homosexual.

            Why are you pretending that cable decline is only a problem for AEW and not a problem for WWE?

            homosexual.

            >Congrats on tying me up and wasting my time, I hope it's worth whatever moron agenda you're pushing to all 25 people who participate on Fhite daily
            Nobody is forcing you to sperg out like a toddler on an anonymous anime board you fricking loser.

            homosexual.

            Why do you believe AEW signing new talent might ever increase their cable ratings? We've had 5 straight years of mostly static cable ratings, yet you maintain your magical belief that people they sign might somehow increase this number? Why do you believe this despite all the evidence?

            Despite how funny it is to meme otherwise, AEW's weekly audience does not consist of 700k die-hard wrestling fans and roughly 100-300k BBT watchers who delay in changing the channel for varying lengths of time.

            Wrestling fans keep tuning in week after week, in the hopes that one of these weeks, Tony Khan will change up the formula and provide less in-ring wrestling and more entertainment. That's why AEW shows continue to resemble one continuous slide, because after a certain point, people just give up. But the fans are there, they can be won over if Tony Khan would make a concerted effort to keep them around. The issue is that Tony Khan Wrestling, and the kind of wrestling that draws ratings, are almost diametrically opposed. Tony Khan books his TV wrestling shows like they are indy shows - match after match after match after match, and that's not a draw for television - nor is it a draw for audiences that show up expecting a more WWE-like entertainment variety show instead what they get, which is match after match after match after match. This is why audiences continue to go down for any building/area AEW returns to.

            AEW's TV audience and the in-person audience continue to slide and this is the rationale. I am 100% open to discussing this.
            What I am not open to is abject homosexualry, the posting PNGs/JPGs in lieu of making an argument, trolling, and generally being a moronic piece of shit.
            Call me gotten to, all me seethin, bubblin, autist, whatever makes you happy.
            You can suck my whole dick, and lick my butthole clean since you're down there already

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Wrestling fans keep tuning in week after week, in the hopes that one of these weeks, Tony Khan will change up the formula and provide less in-ring wrestling and more entertainment
            We don't project our own personal desires onto the entire AEW fanbase here.
            >one continuous slide
            He is still refusing to acknowledge cable decline which also affects Raw for which he ignores Raw's even bigger ratings decline because he is a dishonest mentally defective E-drone.
            >Tony Khan books his TV wrestling shows like they are indy shows
            He still maintains his delusion that the content of AEW TV shows will have any affect whatsoever on the static cable ratings number which almost never changes in reaction to talent, segments, content, matches, angles. He still maintains his delusion. Nothing can shake him from his delusion.
            >AEW's TV audience and the in-person audience continue to slide
            If you were open to discussing it you would acknowledge that cable numbers are affected by cable decline, and that AEW's attendance has seen no significant movement up or down on average.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >cable decline
            People are cord-cutting in the middle of AEW's broadcast?
            >"Hi, yes, Comcast? Yeah, I can't take this horse shit any more. Just cancel everything. All of it"
            >"Where do I send this frickin cable box back to?"

            >If you were open to discussing it you would acknowledge that cable numbers are affected by cable decline, and that AEW's attendance has seen no significant movement up or down on average.

            I am literally the only one I ever see who posts cagematch.net links for shows, which generally include reported attendance.

            https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=335156 -- 3/23/2022, 4,327 attendance
            https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=359652 -- 3/29/2023, 4,135 attendance
            https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=381947 -- 3/27/2024, 3,438 attendance
            3 dates during roughly the same week of the year, down about 20% over the average.

            Different markets, of course. Small sample size? Probably. I don't have a script to scrape this info. You can make every cope in the world, pretend to be someone you're not, makes no nevermind. I don't think you even know what you're arguing at this point, you're just trying to piss me off.

            I shouldn't have to repeat myself because you do this homosexual act, responding to things I'm not saying, ignoring what I am actually saying:

            >AEW's payroll is going up MUCH HIGHER than the rate of inflation, and the increased star-power is not translating ratings that can outpace the rate of cord-cutting. If you aren't doing that, then what exactly is the point raising payroll so high?

            Tony is not spending tens of millions of extra dollars on payroll only to throw up his arms and say 'heh heh, decline of cable, what can ya do' -- only a stupid b***h would believe that. Tony is signing these extra acts to try to stem the tide, to STOP the ratings from decreasing at the rate they are, to get OUT IN FRONT OF the rate of cord-cutting

            THAT is how shows command a premium rate, it's not because they're #1-3 within a certain contrived parameter

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You should post with a trip so I know not to respond to you. I have no desire to communicate with you. Threads over breh

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pleasure pushing your shit in, homosexual. Stop responding to me in any other threads, they're just going to end up the same way. I'm not even that much smarter than you - you're just too much of a lazy and stupid b***h to actually exploit the mistakes I make.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He fricking destroyed you, btw

            >samegay who's too cowardly to use a trip
            Not him but do not make me laugh, your thread was a failure and only highlighted how grossly uneducated you are.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            nice try troony
            you got fricking owned, stop it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            nice phone and laptop you have there homosexual, nobody believes you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He fricking destroyed you, btw

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I already accepted your concession no need to keep asking.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sting is off the payroll and he was making a ton. Bryan is part time starting next year. I'm sure there will be others leaving as well. Might not have been handled the best but you need to replenish your roster at some point and you gotta get people when they're available.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >AND attendance
            Best data we have for Dynamite attendance is here
            Roughly averaging 5k per year
            Slightly up by 10% since 2019
            Can you please clarify why you lied to everybody on Fhite about Dynamite attendance declining? Thanks.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >saving one of rovert's images
            not going to make it with the wolves, xer

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            what about rampage and collision?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Congrats on tying me up and wasting my time, I hope it's worth whatever moron agenda you're pushing to all 25 people who participate on Fhite daily
            Nobody is forcing you to sperg out like a toddler on an anonymous anime board you fricking loser.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The ratings drop is fairly minimal when you adjust for cable and if you tally its decline objectively by ditching arbitrary numbers like le 1 MILLION VIEWERS, you're the one arguing in bad faith buddy and literally grasping at straws because you're an e-drone who has an agenda against AEW.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            troony ARE YOU OKAY ARE YOU OKAY troony

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            concession accepted.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            AEW's ratings drop is not happening in a vacuum. AEW's payroll is going up MUCH HIGHER than the rate of inflation, and the increased star-power is not translating ratings that can outpace the rate of cord-cutting. If you aren't doing that, then what exactly is the point raising payroll so high?

            If Tony still had the same roster from a year ago, with Bryan Keith and other similar-level talent being signed and Andrade/Jade/others moving on, then these would be great numbers. But in the context of signing multiple multi-million dollar talents, and AEW continuing to decline, there is no way to positively spin things.

            AEW fans are constantly bragging about all the new signings and yet it's doing NOTHING to turn around declining revenue and attendance. AEW is in the mud no matter how much you continue to lie and troll about it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why do you believe AEW signing new talent might ever increase their cable ratings? We've had 5 straight years of mostly static cable ratings, yet you maintain your magical belief that people they sign might somehow increase this number? Why do you believe this despite all the evidence?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >declining revenue
            You are straight up lying at this point and you know it. AEW's revenue has increased year on year as a result of their adding new TV shows and new PPVs each year. You are actively lying to yourself and everybody else in a completely shameless and transparent way. Do you have the honesty to admit it?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why should new hires instantly increase ratings? DJ has been all over WWE and they're around the same they've been for the last year or so.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            For multiple posts you have attributed the decline of cable ratings (which affects WWE) as a phenomenon solely exclusive to AEW. Why do you continue to dishonestly push this idea? Is it because you don't understand the cable decline issue?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >AEW continuing to decline
            you keep repeating this over and over without any proof. it's honestly sad.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It was real in his mind

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Their ratings and attendances are both down yoy. That's a decline. They are losing more money though, so that number is going up at least.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >decline
            Yeah I don't think you understand what being in a decline actual means. WWE ratings are down yoy too, they aren't in a decline. Attendance overall is probably down outside of Mania season, that doesn't mean they're in a decline either. It means they're down, they can improve or be doing better than they otherwise are. You don't seem to be able to conprehend this however. There's a world of difference between a company being down and being in a decline. AEW isn't laying off massive amounts of talent, cutting down production costs, losing television deals, not selling out huge PPV's, etc. You clearly don't know what being in a decline even means.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He thinks that if a ratings quarter goes down by 3% then the entire company is in an irreversible unstoppable cascade of business failure

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cable is pretty barren outside of sports. That hybrid ESPN/WBD/FOX service is gonna frick it up good I think.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >ESPN/WBD/FOX service
            is this why Slop Down was cancelled?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That + Peawiener and Paramount+ would give you pretty much all sports on TV. I think that definitely will speed up cable's death.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They were #3 on cable last night and #1 after sports. When did TNA ever do that?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            E-drones struggle with the concept of time, among many other things. You won't get a straight answer.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            how is it delusional? it's actually happening

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the same numbers that TNA did
          The fact that you posted this statement indicates that you do not understand the concept of cable decline, and you probably also struggle with concepts like inflation/deflation and ratios in general.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are telling me, if AEW was beating WWE in the ratings or had more viewers, the threads would not be the other way around?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          AEW fans are not low IQ mentally ill Indians like you. Our threads and your threads will never be the same no matter what each shows ratings are doing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >AEW fans are not low IQ mentally ill Indians
            Yeah they aren't indians

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Our threads and your threads
            I watch both AEW and WWE. There is no our and your. I don't care about console wars. I watch what I like and ignore what I don't.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why is Meltzer doing damage control for AEW?
    I thought he was an impartial journalist

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well see people lie about AEW and they spam those lies into Meltzer's notifs and demand he believe them, and so because Dave cares about facts and reality, he will correct those people as is his job as a journalist.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The average without BBT is 720k btw.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dynamite practically doubles BBT's demo, btw

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sometimes it seems like Dave is close to breaking his AEW brainwashing, then shit like this happens and he goes full cultist.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Based Meltz being the voice of reason, you gays just constantly move the goalposts its pathetic.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    NOOOOOOOO GIRL'S BASKETBALL AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So the narrative this week is it's cables fault AEW did poorly

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They didn't do poorly, you don't seem to understand what poorly means.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is it also cables fault the arena was half full, Looney troon?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >moves the goalposts
          >changes the conversation
          Every. Single. Time. For someone obsessed with troonys you should really grow a pair of balls.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I will continue to destroy this homie every time he attempts to back up his cope about AEW's supposed failure

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >AEW's supposed failure
      AEW IS FAILING! KWAB!

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's weird how this decline in homes with cable seems to effect AEW more than other wrestling/sports on television.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Explain WWE's ratings increase then

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >RAW Sept 30, 2019: 2.571 million viewers
          What increase?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Keep sticking to the 2019 point, bro. You're definitely earning points there.
            Absolutely no matter what you do, under no circumstances will you let the conversation turn to 2022 vs 2023 vs 2024
            Can you imagine if we all start discussing year over year numbers, or something actually relevant? My God

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >keep looking at historical data which proves conclusively that cable is massively in decline to support your argument about cable decline bro!
            Thanks I will
            And you'll keep ignoring it!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            AEW lost 16% of the viewership in the last 6 months. Cable didn't decline that fast

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No it didn't

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They were getting 900k right around the time Punk left. Now it's 750k

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I better watch out, looks like we got a math wizard here!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're right, it didn't. gAyEW's viewership did tho.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lol the cope is literally
            >nuh uh
            jesus it’s really over isn’t it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Can you imagine if we all start discussing year over year numbers, or something actually relevant? My God
            But enough about WWE. MY GOD!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cable is AEW's only platform in America. They're not on any streaming platforms (even for old episodes) and their social media presence is weak.
      If people skip the live show then that's it, no legal way to catch up.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can watch the shows on demand through cable.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No one uses "on demand through cable" though, it's one of the big services or bust.
          People could find out how to actually use the TBS app or just frick around with their phone, watch Asmongold on twitch or just watch old sitcom reruns or whatever.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hogbreasts is having an epic oinkdown in this thread lmao. The crippled swine is even talking to himself again!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ever since slopdown's cancelation its being happening more and more, getting worse by the day.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're not funny or clever, Trevor. You are obese and crippled though. lmao!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah that's you

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lil pignose dave is seething that gayew is a flop, the attendance is dire, too

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Smelltzer

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >if you factor in
    If you factor in that he's using a Neilsen rating based solely on cable homes and that AEW isn't available on any streaming platform it's an even worse number. They are getting traction on a major platform, on nights with few things against them. Whenever there is potential competition they would have to perform against, they get moved off. On a streaming platform they would get buried under other alternative content. Tony has made his show so niche it doesnt appeal to people who want something as over the top as wrestling.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nielsen doesn’t solely have cable numbers and hasn’t since 2021 when NXT was still competition.

      They have the major live streaming channels players. YouTube TV has grown quickly and is now the 3rd largest provider of live television behind comcast and (I think) spectrum.

      The cable cope is funny as live streaming has grown rapidly, mitigating at least 1/2 of the cable losses.

      AEW has dropped precipitously in every stat that you can actually quantify. Even using Tony’s phony PPV buy numbers it’s average buys per PPV is down.

      It must be scary to a lonely fan who has adopted the protection of AEW as their personality, using “we” when talking about a nepo baby vanity project. Every Thursday must be torture.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why can't Raw get 3M like they did regularly in 2018?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think they care, anon. They don't need to care. By every objective measure available - stock performance, revenue, profits, gate, attendance, ratings, merchandise - WWE is in an upward trajectory. Picking and choosing one that that is flat or growing at a slower pace, it doesn't mean anything. In the aggregate, WWE is a much stronger and more valuable company than it was 1 year ago, 2 years ago, 4 years ago and 6 years ago.

          Nobody who is telling the truth will argue that AEW has gone UP in value now that the ratings are down 10-20% in the last year, despite a ballooning payroll and decreased show attendance. The GOOD NEWS is that this stuff is fixable - you can keep more merchandise on hand, they can cut matches down to size to add more promos/character work, etc. The BAD NEWS is the presence of the word CAN -- the reality of AEW is that brainwashed smarks represent 90% of AEW employees and probably 98% of the people closest to TK.

          AEW is like that episode of South Park where Cartman has a whole amusement park to himself - and only begrudgingly starts allowing other people in, hiring employees, etc, but the bare minimum to keep CARTMAN happy, not really giving a shit about anyone or anything else.

          >"You guys want Ospreay vs Shibata for 15 minutes to open Dynamite??!?!"
          >I mean, no, not really if we're being honest
          >"OK fine, stop twisting my arm, haha. We'll make it 20 minutes! Dream match!"

          I'll still tune in, because I always tune in. But it's getting harder and harder to not watch Raw/Smackdown with all the hype.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Slopdown got cancelled

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No 3/4 milly?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I'll still tune in, because I always tune in. But it's getting harder and harder to not watch Raw/Smackdown with all the hype.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Cope cope cope cope cope cope cope
    That's all I ever see from Meltzer these days. He just copes ad infinitum for AEW and Tony Khan.

    Guy can't even admit that shit is spiraling down the drain. He's always gotta make excuses or try to put some sprinkles to make it look like AEW isn't a steaming pile of shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If he's not on AEW's payroll, he's one of the most pathetic people out there. He twists logic so much to dick ride AEW, it's actually insane. Not to mention him ending a 20+ year friendship with Jim Cornette because he doesn't like AEW. The guy is a full on autistic moron.

      He's getting paid either way, because AEW smarks will buy his bullshit just to hear him stroke off the garbage Tony puts on TV. But if hes not DIRECTLY paid by AEW, he's seriously pathetic as frick.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The frick are you talking about? Meltzer shits on AEW constantly.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >B-but they are third of you take out sports, news, talk and reality shows!
    That's because all big entertainment shows air on channels like NBC, etc.
    Also, last year they didn't need to have the Big Bang Theory end late and an overrun every time to boost their average.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the Big Bang Theory end late and an overrun every time to boost their average.
      That really happens? Seems like Fhite woulda made it big if true.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Forget no milly, it's now no eighthundy.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nice mental gymnastics Dave. Kek what a fricking b***h

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cope

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    3rd is good

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