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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    old wrestling is terrible though

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not enough pizza tossing and elaborate dance numbers for you, zoomie?

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gun to your head: could you name a single story, match, or wrestler from the Arizona territory

    most dimeless territory of all time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm starting to wonder if it's even real, or if it just ended up on one of these maps and has been copied over. I've never heard anyone talk about it.

      I always wondered what a Las Vegas promotion could have looked like. You could basically do a residency in a casino/hotel and new people would come through every week on vacation so you'd have fresh fans if you could get a tv deal

      You'd think when the mob moved in as Vegas was being built wrestling would have come with it, but maybe that's the problem. The mob took hold too quick and blocked out the carnies.
      If the AWA ran North and South Dakota, and Stampede ran Montana, then there had to have been some money in Idaho and Utah, right? Maybe not Wyoming, but there are cities in Idaho.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Utah is a massive glowie state. A lot of it leaked into Idaho via Mormonism. That region is just very sparsely populated in general anyway.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And glowies... Don't like wrestling? Anyways, the Mormons only started taking over the government recently.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Believe it or not, they don't. AEW was started to ruin the very real momentum independent, autonomous wrestling has been gathering. Shad is not a competent businessman. His fortune is completely astroturfed.

            Regardless, Mormonism's influence goes back a lot further than you might think. BYU has been a CIA recruitment hotbed for decades. That's saying nothing of the fact that Mormonism was founded by literal Freemasons.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >western states wrestling alliance
          I can't find much about this fed either

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Barry Bernsten
          >1974-1991
          This is really recent to be totally memoryholed.

          https://azwreshistory.blogspot.com/2011/03/barry-bernsten.html?m=1

          >During the early 1980s, Bernsten ran weekly shows at a small building on 40th Street and Van Buren. Among the regulars were Cowboy Bob Yuma, Mr. Wrestling, The Lumberjacks, Masked Frankenstein (The Monster for Labell in Los Angeles), Pedro El Grande, John Ringer and Jody Arnold.

          >The promotion also booked wrestlers in transit from Texas to California and in reverse, which saw Rick Davidson, Steve Gatorwolf and some others appearing on the cards.

          >Independent wrestlers Mike Contreras, Two Ton Henkle, The Black Mamba and The Mercenary got their start with this office.

          >Others who appeared for this promotion at varied times included Eddie Dean, Eddie Sullivan, Nano Ortega, Benny Mendeblis, Ron Newstrome, Sadie & Sherri, The Little Princess, Sneaky Red Smith,
          Miss Arizona Red, The Viking, Farmer Jones, The Invaders, Christopher Henderson (Christopher Love/Bert Prentice), The Detroit Mauler, Mean Joe Madrigal, Curly Joe, Hollywood Brown, Miss Crystal Ball (a woman with a shaved head), Danny Snyder, Eli Hernandez, The Cherokee Brothers, Mr. Murder (Bernsten's son, who oddly enough died before him due to kidney cancer when only in his 40s), The Champion, Jake The Ripper, Danny Sanchez, Navajo Frank, The Mask, Skeleton Man, Dino Barbudo, The Arkansas Beast, Ludwig The Hun and The Bounty Man, just to name a few.

          I'm no Cornette or Meltzer, but I know a lot of obscue dimeless territory jobbers. And I have never heard of a single one of these dudes, other than Mr. Wrestling (which one anyways?) and the fricking Monster. Holy shit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            wtf would be the reason behind fabricating something like this? Are all these names alter egos? Territory wrestling in Arizona during the 70s, 80s and just barely into the 90s. That's an obscure starting point for a mythology.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think it's fake. I just don't know any of these dudes.
            >Territory wrestling in Arizona during the 70s, 80s and just barely into the 90s. That's an obscure starting point for a mythology.
            It could be a pretty genius place if you for some reason wanted to do that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We're in an era of the algorithmic jackpot. People are looking for one on YouTube by uploading all manner of obscure media previously confined to analog libraries. It's more than a little strange that barely any documentation of this promotion exists in the digital space.

            As a contrasting example, this match was held in 1952 in fuggin Nebraska and someone still got hold of the film it was recorded on.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What an oldschool rollup

          • 3 weeks ago
            ProWresBlog

            Bert Prentice managed in the LPWA and the USWA. He later ran one of the Memphis promotions in the 2000's. He's the only one I know from that list aside from Steve Gatorwolf, who did jobs on WWF TV.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            anyone have a video of any of their matches?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Besides Prentice, I've heard of Farmer Jones in passing. A couple of others sound very vaguely familiar, but I don't know.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >huston wrestling

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >there had to have been some money in Idaho and Utah,

        lmao. no.

        Believe it or not, they don't. AEW was started to ruin the very real momentum independent, autonomous wrestling has been gathering. Shad is not a competent businessman. His fortune is completely astroturfed.

        Regardless, Mormonism's influence goes back a lot further than you might think. BYU has been a CIA recruitment hotbed for decades. That's saying nothing of the fact that Mormonism was founded by literal Freemasons.

        You're mentally ill.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Get a life

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Born: June 7, 1943, Phoenix, AZ
      Died: May 17, 2023 (age 79 years), Phoenix, AZ

    • 3 weeks ago
      ProWresBlog

      It was considered an outlaw/indy territory and the interest just wasn't there beyond that.

      How come Nevada, Utah, Idaho, Wyoming and West-Montana have no wrestling territory attached to them? Is it that sparsely populated or is the region too dimeless for wrestling?

      I think the Los Angeles territory ran there a little. The AWA ran Vegas in the 80's and GLOW also ran there. There were shows on Native reservations, but good luck finding info on those. They were just all sparsely populated places with long commutes that weren't worth it.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why didn't utah come out

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can't wrestle in magic underwear

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mormons join the c.i.a

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How come Nevada, Utah, Idaho, Wyoming and West-Montana have no wrestling territory attached to them? Is it that sparsely populated or is the region too dimeless for wrestling?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I always wondered what a Las Vegas promotion could have looked like. You could basically do a residency in a casino/hotel and new people would come through every week on vacation so you'd have fresh fans if you could get a tv deal

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I thought the same thing but I would imagine the tough part would be Las Vegas itself wouldnt be able to attract regular supporters to show up for a show every week and get stories to be followed since its most just people visiting to gamble

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Is it that sparsely populated or is the region too dimeless for wrestling?
      I think the lack of density makes it harder for anyone to care about wrestling.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Looks gay and boring

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How does regional wrestling look like during their heydays? Are they isolationists who just do their thing or do they collaborated with one another at times?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most were part of the NWA and the NWA champion toured the country, and some times there were other angles and stuff.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    does anybody know where i can watch old school shows like awa, wccw, stampede etc

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's actually a cool image and very interesting. Thanks for it anon, all the terminally online shit threads are tiresome

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