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  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Does what? Fail to draw?

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    he dont miss

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    That‘s like a 2 without the Ospreay bonus. Was it that bad?

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >is 19 times better than Bret Hart and Kurt Angle put together in you’re path
    nothing personnel

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >genius level of pro wrestling

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Just a reminder that your "goat" said Meltzer was crazy for not giving Kurt Angle any 5 star matches.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yea meltzer fricked up his star system. Now it feels like if Ospreay doesn't get 6 stars for the main event, it wasn't a big deal

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Kek what a Billy GOAT

      Meltzer is the greatest mark in the history of the biz. He invented a fake star system and worked a generation of marks and wrestlers to believe it matters.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        that's a carny not a mark

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Ospreay keeps having once-in-a-generation matches. That's odd. Almost as if Meltzer lost his mind a few decades ago and his ratings don't mean shit.

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Quick question. Can Meltzer stars be redeemed for anything of value or are they just meaningless lines of asterisks?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They can be redeemed for a contract at aew

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Kek what a Billy GOAT

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Is a single one of these memorable, and will be talked about with glowing reverence, a decade or more later?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        yes

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Danielson maybe, but thats memorable due to the hot crowd atmosphere.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Ospreay/Okada will be, none of the other ones are memorable.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Nope, nobody remembers any of those matches I'm afraid

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        All of them are already forgotten

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        'Fraid not

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        each one are the same cookie cutter flippy floppy slop

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Not enough coconut soliloquies for ya?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        No.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Nope, nobody remembers any of those matches I'm afraid

        All of them are already forgotten

        how often do we see these being posted

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          A lot. But doesn't make it untrue. 5 stars should be reserved for all-time classics. Dave himself has said this. By that definition, it simply isn't possible for Ospreay to have wrestled 7 all-time classics in only 6 months.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Probably, people still seethe over Ospreay vs Richochet to the day.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          4.5+ used to be shit you had to check out, I remember Naito vs Tanahashi in 2016 got 4.5 and was better than any match I've ever seen ospreay have.
          Now it's just, ah another all-time classic that breaks the scale and redefines pro wrestling. Must have been pretty bad if it didn't get 6.

          >"with glowing reverence"

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Afraid not because there wasn't a single interesting story in any of them

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, because Fhite will post webms & talk about how shit each one was insisting Ospreay was never good.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >and will be talked about with glowing reverence

          Learn to read.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Memorable
            Yes even things you don’t like that you still talk about years later are memorable

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Here's the full quote. Notice the "and":

            >memorable, and will be talked about with glowing reverence

            People posting webms to shit on it wasn't the meaning. You know this. Furthermore, the context is to show that none of those matches are "all-time classics," which is how Dave himself defined 5+ star matches.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            So the matches are all memorable then, okay, thanks for clarifying that I was right

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, memorable for being shit. Thanks for clarifying.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            So still memorable. Alright, no worries anon. I’m agreeing with you

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            My point was that those matches won't be remembered with the same reverence as something like Flair/Steamboat or Bret/Owen.

            That said, AEW has plenty of cringey spots like the one here

            . So likely we won't even remember those Ospreay matches for the cringe spots since others will be more recent and likely even worse. And Dave will continue to shower his favorite floppy shitters with 5+ stars too.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            They’ll be remembered just fine, if anything people will just recall this period as one big string of Ospreay matches that were enjoyable. Sure maybe some detractors but using your own example it’s no different from someone who said Bret/Owen was just rest holds

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            LMAO. You really have lost all credibility with this post.

            BTW, 5+ stars doesn't mean "enjoyable." It means "all-time classic," as defined by Dave himself. So no, no one is going to honestly make the claim that Ospreay wrestled 7 ALL-TIME classic wrestling matches over a 6 month period (or over his entire career, frankly).

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Sure, Dave over rates Ospreay’s work & blows him for the most minimal of reasons but legitimately most of the matches listed in OP are great. Especially the Takeshita match, the Danielson match will have the most talk just because of the names involved however

            You know there’s a middle ground to Dave’s hyper defense of Ospreay & looking for anything to shit on Ospreay?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >5+ stars doesn't mean "enjoyable." It means "all-time classic," as defined by Dave himself.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >They’ll be remembered just fine
            lol. They're already forgotten. I bet even the smarks who raved about Ospreay vs Swerve barely remember what happened in it.

            Sure, Dave over rates Ospreay’s work & blows him for the most minimal of reasons but legitimately most of the matches listed in OP are great. Especially the Takeshita match, the Danielson match will have the most talk just because of the names involved however

            You know there’s a middle ground to Dave’s hyper defense of Ospreay & looking for anything to shit on Ospreay?

            >legitimately most of the matches listed in OP are great.
            No they aren't. Ospreay is incapable of performing a good match let alone a great one. That's why he can't draw.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            You’re the polar opposite of Meltzer being a mark for Ospreay & don’t even realize it lol. I don’t even think it’s really about Ospreay himself either for you it’s just malding over israelite stars.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Nah. I say Ospreay is awful because Ospreay is awful. He can't wrestle, he can't draw, and he agreed to take Danial Garcia's wiener to his face. It's 100% about Bruv himself. Meltzer's opinion is only relevant insofar as it's fun to laugh at him for trying to puff up such a flagrantly dimeless shitter. If Dave did a 180 and starting shitting on Ospreay I'd just say a broken clock is right sometimes.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            based bruv mindbroke you kek, just like papa nose

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            not that homosexual and ospreay is pretty shit. Guy doesn't spell his own name right.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Too bad he can break the declining ratings.

            The only people Bruv mindbroke are all the AEW trannies who thought he'd restore the feeling but actually just ended up achieving record low ratings lmao

            >all this seethe
            looks like i struck a nerve lmao

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >pretending Ospreay hasn't been a complete disaster
            We can all see the ratings lil bro.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >seethe
            nah thats you bruv

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Too bad he can break the declining ratings.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            The only people Bruv mindbroke are all the AEW trannies who thought he'd restore the feeling but actually just ended up achieving record low ratings lmao

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            He really fricking sucks. Everything he does looks inorganic and choreographed. He sucks at selling. His moveset is cringey flippy nonsense. His mic skills are mediocre.

            He's literally Ricochet, who also fricking blows. This isn't console war nonsense, either. Because I think Omega and Okada are still great. Ospreay is hot trash and nothing will change this until he gets a clue.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >They’ll be remembered just fine, if anything people will just recall this period as one big string of Ospreay matches that were enjoyable.
            Nobody saw them sadly

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks for the input, ma’am

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks for signing your post, btw your daughter was raped

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Lundy post

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            R.Spreay was gaped sadly

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            fraid so

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Ospreay vs. Takeshita probably, yes. Not so much the others. Maybe Danielson.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Gotta rewatch that soon, I'm putting it on the list

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Ospreay/Danielson really is the only one I can remember.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Ospreay vs. Takeshita probably, yes. Not so much the others. Maybe Danielson.

        The Take a Shit match was fricking great. If Tony had any business sense, these two would have been in a feud afterwards. Takeshita needs to be world champ before this workrate shit catches up to him. He's a freak athlete at his prime.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          WWE will snipe him if they don't start pushing him. Paul Nose will 100% make a big play.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      All those star emojis and yet he can't draw a cent or wrestle kek

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Now if he could only just find a way to convert these stars into television ratings or any way to draw.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >the match with josh alexander was basic tier josh alexander stuff in which he basically dragged wil around and helped him put on something decent
      >5 and a half stars
      !?!???!?!?!???!?!?
      Yeah meltzer isn't watching these matches at all.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        you mean the match that scott d'amore ran out afterward and said it was the best match he ever saw in his life, whilst crying?
        LMAO, just accept that pauletty fumbled. he had the chance to get the most talented wrestler to ever live, and he bought some new coconut actors instead.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >pauletty
          What? What are you talking about?
          That match was another in a long list of Josh Alexander has a great match despite the other guy. Maybe I'm just spoiled by the guy but that wasn't anything special to me. I don't care what d'amore said. The guy should still be running TNA but he talked a LOT of bullshit. Like pretending Trent Seven was some big deal.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I have not watched any of these

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        They're all basically X-Division matches but done slower and they go for triple the time so you're not missing anything

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >they go for triple the time

          This is one of the worst parts of modern wrestling. Even WWE has this problem. Matches just have to go on for 20+ minutes so that each wrestler can get all their stuff in. It's ridiculous. And it devalues matches between the top guys since even low carders get 15+ minutes.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          How many times does he do this spot? You'd think people would stop going for it because he counters it every fricking time.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >you think people would stop trying to powerbomb Kidman

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Didn’t know dbry had a top rope hurricanrana in his arsenal.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      At this point, if I'm Ospreay and Meltzer keeps giving me these legendary ratings that should logically infer that I am the greatest wrestler to ever live, and I still can't draw, they're starting to make me insecure more than anything.
      I have the weight of the pro wrestling journalism machine trying to put me over and I'm still not clicking, what am I doing wrong?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Very funny that Dave has fricked himself by handing out 4+ stars to gayEW every week for tv matches and now he has no choice but to break his own scale for his favorite buttboy

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      And yet not a single milly among them

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      the only one worth its rating was the Takeshita match

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >over 5
    overrated confirmed

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's not even as good as a 2000s X Division match. I saw Osprey jumping into Swerve's arms to get dropped. Dave is a mind broken newsletter writing fan with no sense.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      kys botch troony

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I wish there was a way to clean up early tna and show it to dave as if its new matches. Dude would be giving everything 7 stars.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    giving 4+ stars to Michin-Jaida was more egregious but they won't obsess over that one

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      meltz gives minority womemes extra points to try and keep them from getting uppity

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      it's a bit high, but that match was way better than anyone expected

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Nah it sucks and Im not going to watch it. NXT is not for people like me.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I don't watch it myself. It was recommended to me though, so I checked it out and it was pretty solid.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            "Pretty solid" is at best a 3 star match, not 4 stars

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >moronic israeli star system

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Has a black ever gotten a 5 star match

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Keith Lee in that PWG match with Dijak where they just did a ton of movez

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Keith Lee in that PWG match with Dijak where they just did a ton of movez

      he gave a MITB match 5 stars once too, I think with Ricochet and Lee

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >*jumps into your finisher*

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    oy vey, the coveted stars of Jehovah

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >****1/2 Maybe consider for match of the year many years
      How many 4.5*+ has he given out so far this year? All of those would be MOTY contender in many other years?

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    No six stars?

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Ok so Meltzer isn't actually watching these matches and hasn't been for awhile. Got it.

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    This match was pretty mid. Dave lost it years ago.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I assumed he was full of shit but seeing he gave Josh Alexander dragging another person to a solid match 5 and a half stars invalidates every rating he's ever given basically. Its a "fine" match but Josh Alexander does those in his sleep at this point. Wil was... alright in it but it wasn't anything special from either person.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        moron

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          please elaborate I'm genuinely curious.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Dave wienersuckers are unable to do anything but regurgitate Dave's talking points and Dave's sperm.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Ok fair enough I guess. Just if that was a 5 and a half star match that means Josh Alexander has had about 200 5 star matches recently.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            It obviously wasn't a 5 star match. But the cult of Dave will never admit that their supreme leader is a fraud

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Nah I'm going with Josh Alexander is the best wrestler on earth. Thats the only true takeaway I have here.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            dont care about your fetish

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Breaking news, Dave Meltzer has rated Will Osprey having a wank a 7 star classic.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      EVEN OSPREAY'S CUM IS FLIPPING! LOOK AT THE ROTATION ON HIS TESTICLES! 9 AND A HALF STARS!

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If you imagine Meltzer's scale is out of 10 then his ratings make way more sense

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This spot makes no sense. Why would either man do this if they're trying to win a fight?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >record scratch
      >freeze frame

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      THE GREATEST MATCH OF THE YEAR

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        the greatest match of the year was ospreay vs danielson lil bro

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    how does he effortlessly have a better match every week than the sloppy shop has ever had in 100 years? what a super genius of pro wrestling

    damn it feels good being a sicko

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    none. Sea kelp

    This spot makes no sense. Why would either man do this if they're trying to win a fight?

    Why did The Rock use The People's Elbow?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The People's Elbow was an ego move meant to humiliate an already beaten opponent. As in, Rock could have gone for the pin right away but instead wastes like 10 seconds showing off instead. Sometimes this backfired too.

      Now explain the psychology behind that cringey choreographed spot from Will and Swerve.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        counterwrestling

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        one of will's signature moves is the oscutter, where he springs off the second rope and hits a cutter. you've seen cody rhodes do a sloppier version of this. both of them have pinned many guys with it.

        swerve's finish is a top rope double stomp. he knew will was going to go for an oscutter at this moment, so at the same time he ran to an adjacent rope to counter it in mid air with a springboard double stomp.

        hope this helps

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          NTA, there's nothing wrong with the idea of it, the execution was just fricking horrible with the pause

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          But it doesn't look like that's what happened. Both guys are running to the ropes while watching the other. So first off, they should know what the other was about to try. Then when they actually perform the spot, it looks completely inorganic, i.e. clearly a preplanned spot that they intentionally synchronized their timing for. That exposes wrestling, i.e. ruins verisimilitude (in wrestling terms: killed kayfabe).

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >verisimilitude

            lmao frick outta here

            @15135246
            cringe

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Based Swerve with more 5 star matches then most WWF/E wrestlers

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >have sex

    Post your address, lube up, and bend over.

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't watch it but I'm sure it didn't deserve the 5 star rating, much less break the scale.

  27. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    This is really bad for star ratings economy. He awards 5+ ratings far too frequently, he's causing ratings inflation. If i remember correctly, Dave said that there are matches he awarded 4, 5 stars in the past that in current SRE (Star Rating Economy) have devaluated to 2 & 3 stars. This due to factors suchs a FPS (Flips per second), WPM (Workrate per minute), TIACF (This is awesome chant frequency), etc. far more frequent in moder era matches than wrestling matches from the past. Will's "all-time classics" will devaluate faster than normal in 5 years or so.

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >t. has never seen Josh Alexander work a match

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      So if Josh Alexander vs Oi Bruv is 5 1/2 stars, this match was 17 stars right?

      The guy has better matches weekly on TNA Impact.

      go have sex Josh, no one who wears amateur head gear has ever drawn

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        kek I wouldn't frick his ugly tattooed up asian wife. He wears the head gear for actual ear issues. Get worked though.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >He wears the head gear for actual ear issues
          not my problem. it's a cosmetic business, brother, maybe he just doesn't have what it takes

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            He certainly does more than ospreay. His name is spelled properly.

  29. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >have sex
    That's rich coming from a guy who mass replies to the whole fricking thread.

  30. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Surely someone with all these stars would having people lining up to buy tickets and tune into weekly shows right?

  31. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    So if Josh Alexander vs Oi Bruv is 5 1/2 stars, this match was 17 stars right?

    The guy has better matches weekly on TNA Impact.

  32. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I love that Dave R. Meltzer has nuked the relevance of his autism stars since gayew came along. He's such a dumb b***h

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      He was doing that before in NJPW.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        2017 was the beginning but AEW's conception was the real absurd escalation point
        If you want to be autistic, you can go back ad compare matches that got 5.xx in NJPW to Will's AEW matches against Takeshita, Danielson and Swerve. Omega vs Ibushi in the G1, Ibushi vs Ishii in the G1, Omega vs Tanahashi at WK. They're all so much better than Will's flipslop

  33. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    That's how we roll Elite Chads

  34. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    based goat

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      back to being over double btw

  35. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >what?

  36. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    love that none of these stars are amounting to $$$ in the pocket

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >botches, shitty looking finish in no heat match between two twinks in some echoing hall that nobody saw
    >5.5, all time great match, rock hard through out the match t:Old gay israelite
    >Benoit vs Angle
    >"Wasn't really feeling it - 4 stars but only because they are big names" t: homosexual Meltzer
    Why would anyone give him or his moronic musings any credibility?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      so in the 90s there weren't really any wrestling "journalists", (there aren't really any now either but whatever) and marks grew up with dave being one of the only paid liars around. When the marks started getting in the ring they started telling meltzer actual behind the scenes shit in some spots because they thought he was a legit journo and spreading news and information, not making up 90+% of what he says even today. Now you have whole feds that bow down to him thinking he's someone because quite frankly, the marks are in the ring.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      , shitty looking finish in no heat match between two twinks in some echoing hall that nobody saw
      but enough about your sex life

  38. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Bret Shart and Perc Angle BTFO.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      if prime bret or prime angle were in aew they'd be racking up 5s too
      look at bryan danielson, his match quality there is on another level and his era of wwe was much better than angle or brets in ring

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Fine cope.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          you know it's true, i would put a man in his grave for a proper omega vs angle feud at their best

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Danielson's match quality has plummeted from what he was doing fifteen years ago
        Yet his meltzer star ratings are much higher now than back then

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          moron

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          The amount of wieners he's taken has drastically risen as well.

  39. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >thread full of piggalos MALDING
    fraid so

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      but enough about you

  40. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >every match Ospreay has is a MOTY candidate
    Meltzer does know that by rating him this way, he devalues his own system, right?

  41. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Surely that means it led to good ratings, right?

    Or no 700K again LMFAO

  42. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    ya gotta love the goatster

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