Why was Austin midcarding WM18?

Why was Austin midcarding WM18?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Distracting Austin and Rock with nWo feuds so Triple Nose could become champion.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      to be fair, this was the one time in his whole career that people gave a shit about HHH

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Rock/Hogan still should have gone on last. It was by far the biggest match on the card.

        >“I always put over anybody they asked me to put over. I think most of my WCW run was doing jobs."
        Yeah, like how he put over Sting by pinning him clean in the middle of the ring then having his victory unfairly deemed invalid by someone who wasn't a ref or official.

        Stink was on drugs and gassed within seconds at Starrcade. Get the frick over it. He wasn't the guy. Goldberg was the guy, and Hogan put him over clean. Just like in WWE: Hulkster refused to put over HBGay, but he put over Lesnar clean as a whistle.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah it should have, he fricked himself by making himself go on last and people would remember this more if he didn't

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Stink was on drugs and gassed within seconds at Starrcade
          1. Everybody was on drugs in WCW.
          2. You can't mock someone for their poor cardio and then praise Goldberg in the same breath... Shekelberg literally couldn't last in matches longer than a minute or two, as seen when Regal exposed him.
          3. The people wanted Sting to win because the basic rules of storytelling called for Sting to finally beat the NWO for WCW; it had nothing to do with Sting being "the guy," it was all about Sting being the WCW mainstay who would finally put the NWO in its place to finish the group off.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The people wanted Sting to win
            LMAO. The people were ecstatic when Luger won the belt a few months prior on Nitro. They waited too long to have the match with Sting. And no, Sting wasn't just another guy on drugs. He was strung out during the match. He shouted "Mamacita!" into the camera at the end. These were the FIRST WORDS he had spoken in over a year, and he wasted them by breaking the Crow gimmick and returning to Surfer Sting.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No one ever said this until Eric Bischoff said it was the reason for fricking up the simple and obvious finish.

            Not a single person said "omg Sting is fricked up and he looks awful..." cuz he looked like he had looked for the previous year.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is the bullshit lie that Bischoff uses to protect his buttbuddy and dares not offend him by any chance. The reality is Hogan wanted to keep hogging the spot. Sting was given the title mere month later in another moronic faulty finish that made him look like a chump. Sting never stopped working after Starrcade or take a break, so he wasn't that fricked up not to do the job.

            Bischoff himself basically admitted in that one WWE documentary that it was because Hogan had creative control and he was too much of a b***h to tell him to do business just like Vince did with Bret

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Goldberg was the guy, and Hogan put him over clean
          No, he didn't. Hogan was about to finish Goldberg before being distracted by Malone which gave an opportunity for Golberg to come back and spear him.
          >Lesnar
          Again, no he didn't. Hogan was distracted by Heyman after hitting a leg drop on Lesnar and about to finish the match.

          Hogan NEVER lost clean except to Piper.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He turned down the Hogan match because he is too much of a self mark. So they had him do this forgettable shit instead.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He was buried by Hogan in WCW
      Doubt he wanted it to happen again in the WWF despite how much more popular he was at the time than Hogan

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong.

        "When we were in WCW, and he was Stunning Steve Austin, he talked to me a couple of times about different ideas he had to work with me. The ideas were okay, they weren’t home runs, but they were pretty good.

        “I always put over anybody they asked me to put over. I think most of my WCW run was doing jobs."

        -Hulk Hogan

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >“I always put over anybody they asked me to put over. I think most of my WCW run was doing jobs."
          Yeah, like how he put over Sting by pinning him clean in the middle of the ring then having his victory unfairly deemed invalid by someone who wasn't a ref or official.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Which is more than Sting deserved

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >“I always put over anybody they asked me to put over. I think most of my WCW run was doing jobs."
          HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, fricking Hogan. He never put over anyone until his 2002 WWE run and that was mainly because he had no other options at this point. And he promptly left because he was getting sick of putting people over and wanted to be le Hulkster again.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >He never put over anyone until his 2002 WWE run

            This is a total lie. Hogan put over Lex Luger, Goldberg, Piper, and even Billy Kidman, in WCW.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, he didn't, you fricking moron. Putting over someone means letting him actually beat you. Not "I had him beat but something happened that let him win it" basically saying the only reason your opponent won is because you were distracted, cheated or whatever.

            Again, I already told you Goldberg didn't beat him clean. Neither did Sting. The two guys HE SHOULD have put over and were far more popular than him. But his own ego and greediness got the better of him. Ironically enough if he wasn't such a greedy fricktard and actually did what was asked, WCW might have still survived and he would have made far more money than he did with WCW folding and him being forced to scurry back to the WWF

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Putting over someone means letting him actually beat you

            No, it doesn't. It means to elevate that someone to a higher position in the eyes of the fans, aka they move up the card. That's why you hear people say that soandso put over soandso in a promo, or even on commentary. The term isn't just used for matches. Wins/losses do NOT necessarily put someone over. Goldberg was not 'put over' by winning a bunch of matches without losing, for example. He was 'put over' by WCW making his undefeated streak into a storyline that everyone in the company spoke about whenever Goldberg was mentioned or seen.

            Don't use wrestling insider terms when you don't even know what they mean. Keep quiet and learn.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          http://www.profightdb.com/winlossrecord/hulk-hogan-19.html

          He was 76-67 in WCW.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I can see how he consider that he mainly jobbed, he was 175-35 in WWF

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I could believe Austin went to Hogan with ideas but Hogan hardly put anyone over lmao
          But people didnt wanna see Hogan lose most of the time so it made sense

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The backup plan was actually Austin vs Nash but we all know why that couldn't happen. Austin vs Hall was option 3.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically the bloom was coming off the rose. He hit his peak at x7

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because Stephanie loved HHH and, after the U2 video, convinced herself that he was the bigger star than Austin that year after his Christlike sacrifice when he tore his quad.

    Fortunately, Ausitn would have enough of this bullshit and HHH would get upstaged by Hogan to the point where he dropped the belt in his first PPV defense. People would welcome Austin back with open arms.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WM18 is the reason why Austinetty will never be the GOAT. Even Austicucks deep down know it

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Halls stunner sell was cool

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because his career was ending and he wasn't taking it well.
    Personal issues, chronic injury, and being a malcontent backstage, along with his heel run killing all his mystique had basically wrapped up everything for him. He couldn't work a full schedule anymore, he refused to work programs that would result in him putting people over, and his character was destroyed and boiled down to What? chants.
    He walked out after WM18, came back for 2 months where he did nothing of note, walked out again, had one last match with Rock and then quit.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally LA Knight vs AJ Styles at WM40. The biggest draw on the midcard for no reason.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oddly enough, Austin vs Razor Ramon would have been main event worthy.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't a midcard match. It was a featured main event that didn't go on last. It was promoted just like a main event. Giving just as much if not more build then any other match on card. WrestleMania X8 was promoted as having a quadruple main event (watch the WM X8 preview with The Coach). Hogan/Rock, Austin/Hall, Jericho/HHH, Flair/Taker.

    see at 45 seconds.

    Every WrestleMania usually has around 3 to 4 main event matches regardless of what they put on last.

    Austin and Hall were basically the featured act on every Raw and SmackDown in the buildup to WrestleMania alongside Rock/Hogan/Nash. Whether it was nWo attacking Rock with hammer and running him over with truck, nWo attacking Austin with cement bricks, Hall main eventing SmackDown against Rock, Austin kidnapping Hall, nWo vs. Rock/Austin in a handicap match. Point being NONE OF THIS WAS CONSIDERED MIDCARD STUFF. Even after WM X8 Hall was still in main event CONSTANTLY. The night after WM x8 the mian event was Hall/Nash vs. Rock/Hogan.

    I thought the Austin/Hall match was pretty good personally. Problem is Austin had the finish change to him winning. Orginally Hall was supposed to win and then get heat on Austin after. Austin winning KILLED the nWo angle after only 6 weeks. You don't beat the top main event heels after only 6 weeks. Hall was PISSED "why did you call me and ask me to return if you were gonna waste my time after we agreed to the finish months ago" then started drinking the night before WMX8 right after he was told Austin was going over (he'd been staying sober taking antabuse prior bc he wanted nWo angle to work).

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Austin was as GOAT'd but he had some self-mark in him. I've never heard stories of Rock b***hing about putting anyone over or wins and losses. Austin should've put Hall over at Mania and plans should've gone as they were originally. Austin's stock wouldn't have gone down at all. Would've been better.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Hall got sober and was determined to stay sober to make the nWo storyline the best it could be
      >Austin:M "Doesn't work for me brother"
      >Hall back to the booze

      Kind of sad

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's the source of Hall being clean?
      I heard that Steve agreed to put over Hall until he started drinking which cause Stone Cold to throw a tantrum.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was given first refusal on the Hogan match and turned it down.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So he refused Hogan at WM, went on an ok build and match with Hall, b***hed about how it turned out and then walked out?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He left after he refused to put Lesnar over on Smackdown.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          For as much as everybody sacrificed and ate pins to put Austin over you’d think he’d take a few in good faith. Only let Rock go over in that third Mania match because Rock already ate pins and gave him the world title not once but twice at Mania.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            we wanted to have a program with lesnar and lose on ppv, not lose in a one-off king of the ring match with no build.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I get that. Still seems like a prima Donna thing to walk out on the whole company for. Like if he ate one pin from Brock on Smackdown it meant they could never feud down the line? Other wrestlers set aside their pride to eat 3 counts for Austin. The shock of Austin taking one loss from Brock on Smackdown would be immediate shock value and helping strap a rocket to the company’s newest rising star. But Austin’s stock wouldn’t have gone down to where they still couldn’t have run a proper program. Leaving the whole company was an extreme and ego driven move imo. Austin himself has said since that he wishes he would’ve just done the match and it was wrong to walk out over that.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This. And if Austin was worried about maintaining the integrity of his character I mean who tf was going to vividly remember a random episode of Smackdown? The more I think about it the more I think it’s ridiculous that he walked out on the company over that. They could’ve worked an actual feud after that but Austin got hung up on ONE match on weekly TV and having to take ONE pin from Brock.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm surprised it wasn't Austin vs Nash since Nash was more established as a main eventer in both WWE and WCW.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    outside of 97-98, austin was shit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t. actual moron

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i literally don't see why this was a big deal. it made the card seem more stacked and it was a fun match. i love hall's selling of the stunner and that there was no title at stake, just one star taking out one of the NWO cronies
    >but muh title
    >but muh ratings
    >but muh buried
    shut the frick up little jimmys were marking

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