Will the new format fix the problem of frauds making the final?

Will the new format fix the problem of frauds making the final?

People don't want to see a final with teams that stand no chances to win the trophy like Dortmund, Spurs or Atletico.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here's an idea: how about only using league champions? Oh right, that would generate less revenue.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >only using champions
      So tournament of 6 teams? Or you want to use champions of every irrelevant league in Europe?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Or you want to use champions of every irrelevant league in Europe?
        As God intended, yes. Also every match should be a two-game knockout right from the start.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >champions league
        >don't use champions of certain leagues because they are irrelevant
        I fashioned this up last night. Cross posting from where I originally posted it (

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        )

        Decided to create a method for the new format that would in theory just be the champions of each UEFA country (excluding Liechtenstein which doesn't have a league).

        >Top 25 countries + CL & EL winners qualify automatically, in 3 Pots of 9 according to country coefficient (if league winner wins CL/EL, runner-up qualifies)
        >Pot 4 is the 9 winners of the Play-Off Round
        >Play-Off Round is 26 - 34 seeded versus 9 winners from the Qualifying Round
        >Qualifying Round is 35 - 43 seeded versus 44 - 50 + 2 winners from Preliminary Round
        >Preliminary Round is 51 & 52 seeded versus 53 & 54 in a mini-tournament

        This is including Russia; without Russia (currently in 22nd) every country moves up one and only the bottom two play a preliminary round.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          honestly it's kino, especially if they bring back the cup's winner cup. only problem is that a country has only one entry per competition in these two cups and you cant bring other 5-6 per country in uefa cup, so you have necessarily to reduce the number of teams playing european competitions in the major leagues

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I did a work around for that for both EL & Conference. Exact same format as what I posted above (but Liechtenstein included below Bosnia):

            >Europa League becomes the "new" Cup Winner's Cup so every country's cup winner enters into the competition; if the winner has also won the league the runner-up qualifies instead

            >Conference place is awarded to either the cup runner-up OR in-season League Cup winner; if either of these have qualified for CL/EL already then (and only then) would the place go to the league

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            just checkes, cup winner cup would have man utd, juventus, athletic bilbao, kaiserslautern, lyon, feyenoord and porto among the others.
            kino and pretty high-level too.

            then in uefa cup you'd have i guess atletico, arsenal, liverpool, milan, bayern etc.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            just checkes, cup winner cup would have man utd, juventus, athletic bilbao, kaiserslautern, lyon, feyenoord and porto among the others.
            kino and pretty high-level too.

            then in uefa cup you'd have i guess atletico, arsenal, liverpool, milan, bayern etc.

            honestly it'd be better bc there is not a huge gap between the competitions like there is now.
            they truly had developed the best format back then, but of course it makes much more money to keep all the big teams in one league

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >honestly it'd be better bc there is not a huge gap between the competitions like there is now.
            It would also add much more significance to every cup competition in Europe. You HAVE to either win the league or reach a cup final to have a shot at continental competition.

            >they truly had developed the best format back then, but of course it makes much more money to keep all the big teams in one league
            Exactly.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >can't wait to see how many gol Man City can statpad against Balkani/Dinamo Batumi/Differdange
          said no one ever

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are the problem.
        There's a handful of 'top leagues' because of shite like the 'Champions League' format giving 5 places (and the money) to big leagues and none to smaller.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You are the problem.
          Lol

          People like you would advocate for that format then never watch it. How many Antwerp games did you watch in the CL this season? Oh right, that's zero because in reality you don't care about le epic soul league champions

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You may be partially right.
            But the more you add in meaningless games - see next season - teams winning who finished 5th in their league and have shit like Spurs regularly featuring, because..
            The more you are diluting the original ideal. 'Champions..' - it's already a money-grubbing farce. That no one gives a shit now about a Dortmund- Real final because the bs dragged on an eternity already should be more worrying than perceived lack of interest whether Antwerp made it a round or so further. And the solution is not adding yet more meaningless games.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            we should have a 16 team super league then, like A22 proposed. every team would be absolute quality

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this. either man city or real madrid have been in the past 4 finals, we need to make sure that record gets to 20.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this, halal conserved all energy usually finishes second in the league anyway and then qualifies for the cl like they're the real deal, nonsense

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes, it would make less revenue because less people would watch it because it would be a worse competition

      here's what you sound like:

      >Here's an idea: how about only using league champions? Oh right, that would be totally shit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You are the problem.
        Lol

        People like you would advocate for that format then never watch it. How many Antwerp games did you watch in the CL this season? Oh right, that's zero because in reality you don't care about le epic soul league champions

        Imagine simping for big business like this. Silly c**ts.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          imagine throwing around the word simp and imagining you won the argument. next you'll call me a bootlicker

          you can larp for your gay little league champion format all you want but you know you wouldn't watch the game and nobody else would. there's a reason why we don't have shelbourne getting btfo 7-0 in the european cup anymore

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >imagine throwing around the word simp and imagining you won the argument. next you'll call me a bootlicker
            You seem pretty fricking upset that someone wants to see the Champions League literally be a Champions League. That's why I said you're simping for big business and crying over "muh quality". Let's reward clubs for winning frick all and continue to reward them for winning frick all. Meanwhile clubs that actually win things, no matter how small their country is on the grand stage of Uefa, are given a few shots at qualifying and that's it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You seem pretty fricking upset that someone wants to see the Champions League literally be a Champions League.
            if i seem that way it's probably because you're an oversensitive little homosexual. try not being such a girl in future, eh?

            >That's why I said you're simping for big business and crying over "muh quality".
            Don't care about your life story

            >Let's reward clubs for winning frick all and continue to reward them for winning frick all. Meanwhile clubs that actually win things, no matter how small their country is on the grand stage of Uefa, are given a few shots at qualifying and that's it.
            Letting clubs from small leagues compete is rewarding mediocrity too. And you still wouldn't watch it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >if i seem that way it's probably because you're an oversensitive little homosexual. try not being such a girl in future, eh?
            You're the one having a massive b***hfit. I'm not doing anything of the sort.

            >Don't care about your life story
            No idea what you're on about, I'm just saying what I see. You're that upset you can't even think straight.

            >Letting clubs from small leagues compete is rewarding mediocrity too.
            No it isn't. Those clubs won things. Some who get free passes into the CL haven't won their respective leagues for years, if at all.

            >And you still wouldn't watch it
            I'd be more encouraged to watch it if there was a greater variety of countries involved.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You're the one having a massive b***hfit. I'm not doing anything of the sort.
            Did Dad's bad language upset you? Going to have a little cry in your room now? Fricking twink moron

            >No it isn't. Those clubs won things. Some who get free passes into the CL haven't won their respective leagues for years, if at all.
            They're shit though

            >I'd be more encouraged to watch it if there was a greater variety of countries involved.
            I'm sure. I'd totally get it up for NK Dinamo too

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Did Dad's bad language upset you? Going to have a little cry in your room now? Fricking twink moron
            You are hilarious, you're projecting out the arse. Getting this upset over something irrelevant is absolutely laughable, think it's time you stopped posting if you're having such a tantrum.

            >They're shit though
            And clubs from bigger leagues who have won nothing somehow aren't shit?

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah I expect even more rigging in the first stage draws. That should help.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How about they make a European League with all Super Teams?
    Maybe call it Super League?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >League of Champions
    >3/4 aren't even Champions
    that's one way to devalue national championships

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i like the new format but i would make it harder let only the first 16 tru, if youre shit you dont deserve another chance in the playoffs

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    my new format: abolish the UCL and just have one game a year that is City vs Madrid to avoid a season long slurp and be done with it

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My new format:
    > UCL A: teams only from the top 8 leagues
    > UCL B: teams only from the next top 8 leagues
    > UCL C: everyone else
    Done, all the oilgays can jerk themselves off by themselves, all the serious countries can have their own UCL

    Same shit to UEL and UCoL if viable

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there should be at least 20 different leagues represented in the 'group' stage, preferably half the leagues in uefa

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