Now I know this might cause a lot of arguing but I genuinely am looking for the best martial art for street self defense.
I'm not looking for anything that's the best in a ruled zone like boxing, I need something that will work with no rules. I moved to a lower income (neighbor)HOOD but I live in Canada and we can't carry, so the next best thing is martial arts, plus I've always wanted to learn.
What's the most dangerous/best martial art for street fights? I'm honestly afraid of getting jumped by a crackhead. I know it's probably a mix of them so any information would help, I have a couple fighting gyms in my area and I plan on attending a orientation to one of them in the future.
if you fight your attackers, they win
Best answer: there is none, and anyone who claims otherwise is a moron who has never actually been in a real fight outside a ring. Real life fights ("""street fights""") are incredibly upredictable and more often than not involve multiple combatants. No matter what you do, you'll never be able to beat 4 people all trying to beat you at the same time. You are not John Wick.
Realistic answer: boxing + some form of grappling (judo, wrestling, or BJJ).
> I need something that will work with no rules.
Hey moron, the streets have rules: they're called laws. Self-defense is entirely a legal creation where in order to use it as a defense against battery or murder you need to show that you acted within the law (the rules). Also, there's nothing stopping you from acting outside the rules once your no longer in the ring. You can train within the rules to get proficiency and then not follow those rules when you're not in competition.
>there's nothing stopping you from acting outside the rules once your no longer in the ring
I think that is what OP is talking about is that most martial arts focus on what is allowed within their rules, they don't teach what is a good counter to things that are not allowed so they leave you unbelievably unprepared for things that could happen outside the mat, and thus very vulnerable in street fights.
Like how boxers don't allow certain things, and then when boxers try out MMA fights they get swamped simply because they don't have the proficiency or haven't learned about things outside of their rules.
>most martial arts focus on what is allowed within their rules, they don't teach what is a good counter to things that are not allowed so they leave you unbelievably unprepared for things that could happen outside the mat, and thus very vulnerable in street fights.
Do y'all only go to gyms that are solely focused on training Olympians?
I have never once stepped foot in a gym that did this in the last 20 years of training. There's always loads of people who have no desire to compete, so they do "illegal" shit all the time that you have to learn to deal with. Besides, when you start talking about what's within the rules, you always talk about things that aren't, and when you start talking about things that aren't allowed you start talking about how to deal with those things.
Also, having been in several bar fights I can tell you that it's not magic. You're not left "unbelievably unprepared" because you trained to box: the basics work no matter what your opponent does, that's why they're the basics.
When someone does something that's not allowed they usually just stop the fight outright and yell at the person.
If they have no desire to compete legally they should gtfo of the gym because that's not what they should be there for lmao.
But yes, lots of gyms simply don't teach people to deal with the illegal stuff because they're illegal and they see them as a waste of time.
Yes, training helps and it's not magic but people really are left unprepared when they've been fighting a certain way for a while and some frick comes and smacks them over the head with a chair.
>When someone does something that's not allowed they usually just stop the fight outright and yell at the person.
You go to a shit gym that's only focused on winning tourneys and doesn't care about the actual sport.
>If they have no desire to compete legally they should gtfo of the gym because that's not what they should be there for lmao.
You are the very person you're complaining about. Only a small portion of people at gyms actual seek to compete, but that doesn't mean that everyone else shouldn't be allowed to train. Gyms only leave people "unbelievably unprepared" because they kick out every training partner they don't like.
This isn't fricking complicated, you can train BJJ with people who don't follow IBJJF rules and still compete well within the rules. You're creating a problem that doesn't exist.
>there is none
Wrong and moronic. Nothing beats a well placed pipe bomb.
>Realistic answer: boxing + some form of grappling (judo, wrestling, or BJJ).
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This
Imagine getting into a fight with a guy who lifts weights, knows a solid one two, distance management and how to cover his head, knows how to clinch and a hipthrow and how to work through positions on the ground and one or two submissions. Scary opponent?
Be this guy.
Myau Thai and Judo or Sambo, whichever is available to you, avoid fighting multiple opponents at once unless you have a weapon that can end one of them instantly with one hit.
Judo
For street fights, the best tools are, knife, brass knuckles, screwdriver, metal faucet, anything that the police can't arrest you just for being with, and that you can pull out quickly in case of need, remember to that deterrence is better than confrontation. After that search the internet even about armed attack, legitimate things like kabudo or kali, run away from any idiot wearing camouflage clothing.
Forget punching or grappling, in self-defense you will always be in the minority, criminals are like wolves, they attack to eat not to fight.
Brass knuckles get you arrested 95% of the time in most countries unless you got protection colors.
Arnis/Escrima/Kali. Not even necessarily for their techniques, but so you get an understanding of just how not safe you are at any given moment if you're unarmed and your opponent(s) is.
Situational awareness and being able to tell when things are going south > not fighting multiple opponents > having a weapon > being fit > muay thai + judo/wrestling + some bjj/wrestling
>Best Martial Art For Street Fights?
Stay alert, keep your distance, shoot first.
Anyone who actually attacks you with the intent to cause damage will probably be carrying a weapon and no unarmed martial art will be very effective there.
Meme answers are actually Aikido and Taekwondo. Why? Because of all the videos of people testing knife defense the only things that have worked on the odd occasion have been a good side/front kick to shock the opponent without being in torso stabbing range and there are like two knife disarms in Aikido that reliably work... if you can manage to do the godly feat of catching the attackers knife hand.
The best defense against a weapon is to have a weapon of your own and pray you get the first hit.
Muay Thai but with some tweaks to it like not bouncing your lead leg like in competition style MT
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10/03/23(Tue)20:34:29 No.170399
i just watched a bunch of violent trauma-filled prison boys ko a drunk guy
drunk guy mustve been on some weird drugs becuase he kept waking up aggro and they kept ko-ing him over and over and im very sure the dude will be mentally defective at this point. at one point there were whacking him in the head with a skate board. they sucker punched KOd the back of his head a few times while he was stumbling around. dude kept waking back up, standing up and responding aggro and gettig ko'd again
what does getting KO'd ten times in 30minutes do to a human?
Concussion and permanent brain damage, not like that drunk was doing anything in his life that would be affected by a permanent loss of IQ points.
he was raising a family and had a job
maybe shouldn't have been running his mouth then if he had something to lose, lmao.
Boxing. You want to stay on your feet as much as possible so you don't get crowd stomped, and boxing teaches you proper footwork and punch mechanics.
You'll want some grappling training as well in case you do go down, so you can then get back on your feet.
>Best Martial Art For Street Fights
there was recently a vid of a violent black thug knifing to death a white dood late at night on the street. If whitey had is street fighting revolver he would have lived, but he was too much of a cuck.
100 m dash
Unironically GUN-FU
>but I can’t I’m in Canada
Judged by 12 or carried by 6. You decide
a lot of judo, to the point youre a real, competitive judoka (if you suck its too risky to use on da streetz), and enough striking to close the gap without being startled by taking a hit. after that you could cross train mma, if you like, to get more live experience in such a scenario.
people break rules in combat sport by accident all the time. doing it on purpose just makes your life easier.
move into a better neighborhood
niko style, my homie