Just got all the basic boxing equipment, bag, gloves, wraps and was wondering if it would be possible to get to a proficient level by just watching youtube and using online resources.
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No at best you will learn techniques badly and have to relearn. More likely you will drill wrong techniques into muscle memory and never be able to learn to box properly. You fricked up. Badly. Total waste of money.
It's not about bad or good techniques, it's about what works. You think any coach told Ali to keep his hands down? But it worked nonetheless. You need to find what works for you (A good coach will help you there, a bad coach won't), no matter if it's good or bad technique.
>It's not about bad or good techniques, it's about what works
guess what works, genius. keeping your hands up and having good technique - the basics. if you are good enough a fighter, then you develop your own style, as ali did.
besides that you are not ali, bucko.
what's funny to me is in a lot of asian countries like thailand that's not even a concept to them. there's no "don't learn this the wrong way it'll be impossible to unlearn it", they just teach you the right way to do it even if you've already been doing it wrong. and nobody ever has a problem with it. weird
>if you teach yourself you will develop bad muscle memory
So If I wanted just to hit a bag, I shouldn’t? Is there anything I can learn and keep in mind when doing it so I don’t learn bad habits?
watch yt instructional videos and hit slowly thinking about the technique and keep in mind there is no guarantee the youtuber isn't your karate nerd that's forbidden to throw a punch over the throatline
Don't do this. You will just train bad techniques into muscle memory with no coach. Fricking autists. Join a fricking gym and get coaching. These aren't single person hobbies you absolute morons!
omg punch so hard to learn le sweet science. If boxing was hard the Mayweathers wouldn't have any money
>You will just train bad techniques into muscle memory with no coach
What kind of bad techniques are you talking about, dumbass? Really, tell me what people elarn on their own that is then permanently etched into them forever and can never be rectified?
Such things don't exist. I think you got hit in the head too often.
Even if bad habits are easily overwritten(they're not), why even bother learning said bad habits in the first place rather than starting off with a clean slate? This is a dumb argument to have either way, because if you put a guy whose trained on his own for six years against a guy whose gone to a gym for two, the gym guy is always going to completely outclass the home guy. The only reason not to go to a gym is if you're broke, in which case, you need to focus on getting paid over boxing.
Muscle memory is a a cope. just do it slowly at first and for some time, ~le muscle memory gets BTFO.
>do it slowly at first
>then faster
>what is muscle memory
Absolute state of this board.
That's how the oldtimers learned. But supplement with classes when you can.
>People back in the day didn't have any coaching
>Movies are real
Congrats. You two are the stupidest people on Fhite today. Quite an achievement.
movies Are REAL, everything filmed was done by a person or simulated to look like a person a person is capable of anything, even YOU
This is what morons believe. Dude we've had actual mixed-style combat sports as close to a real fight as possible for 4 decades now. No one can learn to fight alone from watching videos online etc. Next you'll be saying Wing Chun or Aikido are real. Kek.
what do mixed martial arts have to do with learning how to box by yourself?
Ok, can you name a single real life boxer of note that was totally and completely self taught and only solo trained?
You can't because there literally aren't any.
theres a difference between wanting to be a boxer of note and just wanting to know how to box you fricking morons. not everyone wants to go pro. not everyone can go to a gym. Frick off.
who the frick is talking about going pro, training without proper guidance will give you, at best, a tenuous understanding of the martial art.
Boxing has a very low barrier of entry financially, there are a shit ton of people in the sport of boxing that were broke as frick but could still train, what a stupid fricking excuse.
I cant go to a gym dude, you just need to accept that.
there's no hiding from boxing you wiener sucker, I'm going to find out where you live, knock on your door, and brutally beat you with boxing gloves to baptize you into boxing.
You will get hit and I will ensure you get the full boxing experience, evading me will only make the beating more brutal.
Then you can't fricking do boxing. Workout normally. I.e. lift weights, run, stretch etc.
Boring
why do i have to go to a gym?
>why do I have to go to a gym to do a gym based hobby requiring at minimum 2 people
You have bigger problems than not being able to get to a gym anon. You are moronic.
that's what the youtube tutorials are for brother, if you can't learn a sport by watching and listen to free information and basic drills. you don't have talent or discipline to train your coach isn't gonna teach you anything. Hitting pads isn't "real training" boxing is a fake sport it's as real as kungfu
GUYS be careful, I called a guy a homosexual and tried using the martial arts I used from youtube tutorials and I got my ass BRUTALIZED.
Luckily for me, I also watched youtube tutorials on sucking wiener, which deescalated the situation that the youtube martial arts tutorials created for me.
he did a pretty good job
This is a stupid fricking example you fricking moron. If you can't go to a boxing gym you can't do the sport. Combat sports are not hobbies for people to do alone. This isn't fricking rocket science to understand this.
When you say wingchun and aikido aren't real do you mean the techniques don't work or do you mean the techniques are fake and people training those arts don't exist. Everything works bud
Wing Chun and Aikido techniques only work when it's heavily cross-trained with other arts to the point they no longer resemble Wing Chun or Aikido.
For example Wing Chun trapping works in combination with kickboxing or muay thai (in open handed gloves) and standing BJJ submissions. Aikido wrist locks work when cross-trained with Judo for takedowns/throws and BJJ for submissions.
Someone only trained in WC or Aikido will be completely incapable of fighting even a journeyman boxer. Now that doesn't mean they don't have value as arts, but those values are cultural & spiritual, neither makes you capable of fighting in any way at all.
bro if i chain punch you 12 times like Ip-Man you're gonna go sleep sleep no cap fr fr
Wing Chun is justv rebranded Western boxing (or more accurate: The infighting style of western boxing back then), brought to China by this guy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Townsend_Ward
and changed for Chinese needs.
So yeah, it works, if you learn it the right way, why wouldn't it?
Aikido, otoh, is really just literal devil worship (I forgot the name of the entity they worship, it's some famous mountain demon that possessed people, famously) combined with some old Jiu Jitsu, which, again, is an import from Europe during the Sengoku era.
It should work too, if you leave out the occult nonsense and train it like it's supposed to be.
Never heard such a theory and the support for it seems pretty damn weak.
Tony Ferguson (mma fighter) is pretty good with using Wing Chun techniques to land elbows, but other than that I haven't ever seen it used effectively in any other setting
people who dab on internal martial arts probably have really fricked footwork and balance and power recruitment and focus and inner peace
Fine you sit there meditating while I punch you in the face. It's also total bolloks to think that modern combat sports don't heavily apply internal techniques like mindfulness let alone basic physical techniques like effective foot work ffs. Have you even trained in a proper combat sports gym?
watch old boy (both of them) and tell me bud
The answer is yes as long as you are confident you can properly follow directions and recognize mistakes.
Anyone saying otherwise is the kind of person who can read that 2+2=4, but needs a math teacher to confirm it for them.
Be confident. Pay attention. Always look for mistakes in form. Start slow and focus on technique above all else.
>Always look for mistakes in form. Start slow and focus on technique above all else.
Actually he should regularily stress test himself. Talk is cheap, if it works, it works.
IME:
Good teacher > good self training > bad teacher > bad self training
You have to be able to identify you talents and work on those while following instructions to a T instead of falling for memes. Since you're a zoomer, this will be extremely hard.
For example, if all your internet coaches say don't lift heavy but the internet says lift heavy, what will you do?
Then there is also the question of style. If we take boxing, an unathletic, dirty Foreman-like style will be easier to self-learn than a very athletic, technical Mayweather-style.
This. It's an absolutely terrible idea. You are just going to drill how to do things incorrectly with minimal benefit. The only people who think this is a good idea are /misc/ incels who have never left their basements and have no experience of life or reality. Not to mention no aliveness at all from working with resistance or sparring..
You'd be better doing boxing conditioning like running, skipping/jump rope, push-ups, planks, squats, stretching, etc. So when you can get lessons you are already conditioned.
What does 20 on, 10 off mean?
In that image, it's saying do the exercises like burpees, mountain climbers, and squat thrusts at a high intensity for 20 seconds, then take 10 seconds to rest, then repeat.
"20s on, 10s off" = 20 seconds on/work, 10 seconds off/rest
https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/tabata-training/
How long would it take for myself to be fully conditioned?
Well if you start right now, less time than if you leave it until another day. Beyond that it's impossible to say. We don't know you fitness level, if you have done any strength training, if you have done high intensity cardio, your VO2 max, what you are training for exactly, etc.
All we can say is if anyone wants to train boxing you have to be as conditioned as possible in high intensity cardio and explosive strength as it's an absolute killer workout that heavily tests those two fitness aspects.
how did the first boxer learn t o box?
he probably had a coach that new how to box and that coach broke down every technique in autistic detail for the first boxer to digest and understand and all boxing now is just iterations of that first lesson, obviously. No knowledge is just born from one person and one person can't just absorb information and knowledge from no source duh your eyes can't see
I can and will knock you out
much better go to a gym where the coach has some credit to his name thus he'll teach you good posture and technique for boxing ONLY. if you want to transition to another striking sport you'll most probably need to learn the basics of as well
this.
t. sparing partner of national boxing champion U17
bro i train the 52, you wouldn't touch me after i stirke at you
muay boran
cope harder before I heem you in the next dimension meow borat
how you gonna heem me when you've never even left your room?
Instructionals, probably
in the 17th century, European lower classes switch focus from grappling to boxing, which went for a while until the 19th century when gentlemen and other busybodies come and organize it as a sport science. Also because of ancient Greekaboo
>A god student is his own teacher
or was it
>A good teacher is his own student
some chinese dude once said, don't know if this applies here
you need to spar to learn how to fight. you can learn technique on your own but unless you spar you won't know how or when to use it. learning technique isn't the same thing as learning how to fight or box. any dipshit can watch a youtube tutorial and throw a 1-2, it's really not that hard. there's some nuance and some people like to do things a particular way but at the end of the day the basics are braindead easy.
the hard part is actually touching people with your 1-2. learning how to apply what you picked up is way more important than just learning techniques. that's what sparring is for and why it's so important and why a lot of martial arts are useless beyond exercise.
>Spars everyday.
>Gets brain damage before 30's.
>Career ends.
>Nothing acomplished.
>Shoots his own family and then himself.
name 3
everyday.
nobody does this. you're delusional if you think you can learn how to fight without sparring though
this
sparring is where you learn how to use your jabs, straights etc, distance control, feints
Literally no one said to spar daily or even hard.
No just no
You need to actually fight people.
>Can you learn boxing at home?
Yes, but you need a way to test yourself. People devised all kinds of test for solo training. It's really hard if you have no equipment and no friends though.
Many champions learned their style by themselves or with just one friend/sibling. Others just taught themselves the basics and went on a sparring spree until they "got it".
tl;dr: It's possible. Everyone who disagrees wants to sell you something.
You can't learn how to fight on your own. It just doesn't work. Internet coaches are good as a downtime supplement between going to classes At the very minimum you need various sparring partners who aren't clueless morons.
You're full of shit, anyone who has ever become a champion trained in a gym. You cannot even name ONE. Of course some people are naturally talented. Backyard brawling with your friends and siblings(unless they happen to be pros/coaches themselves) might make you a better brawler in some capacity, but you'll get creamed easily by gym-trained boxers. We're all disagreeing with you and obviously have nothing to financially gain from it.
Autists who can't fight.
Let me start saying...im an amateur boxer: 12 wins(9 ko)-2 losses- 0 D.
Yes, you can learn by your own, thats actually how i started.
boxing is moving, possition, attack and defense, thats it. When i go to the gym, i already know how to punch decent and how to block, but training with other people open mi mind and make me became superior than before(training by yourself had limits for your progress). In other wise, if i will not trained at home, it could be a much slow progress to learn basic boxing.
i read some of the morons of the thread, poor classical losser that love find excuses to do NOT move their fricking ass.
"muhh you can't lose weight without a nutritionist, muh im to stupid for learn so you too"
Multiple people said OP should do conditioning until he can join a proper boxing gym, but no one in human history has ever self taught themselves combat sports to the point they can fight even a basic coached fighter. That's just not true.
tony ferguson went on a 12 fight win streak in the deepest division in the UFC training wing chun out of his garage lol
You are fricking clueless.
concession accepted
i appreciate the respecfull response, let me give you one back...
Having proper training does not give you a warranty of winning a fight, but incresses your chances. I see people with just good conditioning beating some trained bad fighters.
OP is not gonna turn professional or even gonna sparring excellet by just training at home. But believe me, punching a bag give you A LOT of knowlegde about fighting IN COMPARISON to not train at all.
And thats the way to go, no one need to just learn how to run before learn how to walk.
By the way, guys like golovkin, Canelo, even Mayweather start boxing at a young age by just watching their old brothers and fathers boxing, then train at home, the train in a gym.
Mike have a similar history, before training, he got homed by teddy atlas social program, and he just see how people with gloves punch each other, he step up in the ring and lose(of course) in a sparring. For love an art like boxing, you need your time
moron.
moron.
This.
You are the same guy from pol.
The only sensible responses in this thread.
Why's everyone so discouraging ? Listen guys it's either I punch a bag alone or I never get off my couch. Those are my only two options
Everyone is so insanely pessimistic and unhelpful in this thread
Because you won't learn boxing. It's not even very good conditioning work. There is a million ways of training cardio, power output, and strength at home. Do those ffs. When you are able to join a proper boxing class. Martial arts and combat sports are not hobbies you can do alone you absolutely moronic artists.
I don't see how I can do any of that. The only thing I can do is self learn boxing
Put up a mirror to check your form.
Occasionally watch a quick video of your own progress to correct stance/form issues.
Try to keep tempo up for the length of standard matches.
You'll do fine.
why would it matter if you're any good if you never leave your house?
you can only do this if you've been boxing for years and have drills/combos drilled into your fricking brain like an autist.
Go find a decent gym, you blockhead.
I'm too scared dude. I need to do it on my own
the you need to consume as much boxing as you can. Watch fights, watch free youtube tutorials and dvd instructionals, watch movies, read books the older the better, and train. Shadowbox and run and bam you're a boxer now. Don't listen to anyone in this thread their all Cans, bums, and gimmie fights. You can learn anything anon throwing a punch properly is as technical as doing a proper deadlift. It's not that hard to learn and forum boxer isn't a reliable source of info though
You are so clueless. People joke about autism but you definitely have it.
Lmao
>people who train for real are cans
>don’t listen to them, listen to ME!
>the guy with no coach who Lagos online and doesn’t fight because fighting is for cans
you can't fight tho lol, I'd double leg you and box your face in on the floor
then why the frick are you doing this sport? Why do anything new if you're just going to be scared.
don't fricking do this, absolute brainlet assessment that fails to fully appreciate how cerebral and technical combat sports are.
Just fricking go to a gym.
Striking can be learned pretty alright at home, I did learn from some other boxers in high school who taught me how to strike correctly, so I practiced a lot on my bag. By the time I went to a gym to confirm this I did amazingly on strikes and was alright on conditioning. What you won't learn by yourself is what combinations are for and how to evade and how to use proper footwork. If you are looking to just punch you can certainly do that though.
yeah alot of timing and distance management requires partner drilling but just the form of punching can be learned solo
I knocked myself in the chin lightly and got headaches/light headedness. Do I have a glass jaw? Anybody else feel the same?
No. You need to be shown fine details by a coach, and you need to spar.