Anyone with a brain knows what TK is doing. All the children in the peanut gallery with their photoshopped charts can stick then directly up their urethra
Who are you to doubt Dave Meltzer?
He has over 50 years of wrestling journalistic experience, he's a jam up guy and if Meltzer says that AEW have a bunch of TV deal on the table and they're waiting for the right deal to show up then you should account that as a fact jack.
That I can't say Idk. I'm just saying regardless if you people don't like him. He knows what he's trying to do buisness wise. The general public can try to know but they don't.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>he knows what he’s trying to do business wise
I really hope you don’t believe that, because everything we’ve seen in the last 5 years of AEW shows Tony has no idea how to run a business
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>everything in my headcanon shows what I want to believe
bathe+lose weight
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>everything in my headcanon shows what I want to believe
bathe+lose weight
From Fulham to Jacksonville everyone knows that Tony Khan is a shit businessman. His Ls are constant, embarrassing and legendary.
>the cope for WBD deciding not to renew AEW during the exclusivity period is that Tony wants to float AEW on the open market
LOL. Here's what really happened: Tony demanded a ludicrous pay raise and WBD told him to go frick himself. Now he's hoping some other network will give him ludicrous money for AEW but of course nobody will. So he'll try to re-open negotiations with WBD but they'll just tell him to go frick himself again. It's truly over. No renewy.
Tony has said that he wants to roll ROH into the next deal. Imagine being WBD and seeing viewing figures for Collision and Rampage, then Tony tells you to pick up and even more dimeless show
You're describing your own post lol. You know that AEW have to accept the offer from Warner before Warner can renew them, right? Who am I kidding, of course your dimwit ass doesn't.
>here's what happened: [loud schizo headcanon]
beggin' ya to take your meds
AEsWines do NOT like the truth lmao. If WBD intended to renew AEW then they would've done it during the exclusivity window. The idea that Tony is the one who let the exclusivity window expire is pure gigacope especially considering how much he sucks WBD's dick and calls them the best partner ever who he absolutely wants to stay with.
>If WBD intended to renew NBA then they would've done it during the exclusivity window.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Trannies failing to grasp that NBA has the upper hand in their negotiations and that AEW does not in fact have the upper hand in their negotiations.
AEW needs WBD. NBA does not need WBD, it's that simple lmao. cope and (You) me all you want, I'm right and you know it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>AEW doesn't have the upperhand in negotiations because...IT JUST DOESN'T OINKAY!?
kek b***hbreasts really malding this morning lol
It's been his "life" since he stopped enjoying WWE nearly TWENTY YEARS AGO.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Explain how AEW has the upper hand in negotiations. You absolutely can't.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>How does their #1 show after the NBA have the upper hand now that the NBA isn't in play?
lol lol lol
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
How does AEW, a crumbling company with horrible ad rates, have the upper hand at the negotiating table? You can't explain this.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>a crumbling company with horrible ad rates
but enough about WWE
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It has overachieved Warner's initial expectations massively.
>How does their #1 show after the NBA have the upper hand now that the NBA isn't in play?
lol lol lol
e-drones really are fricking stupid, no wonder Smackdown was cancelled.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>e-drones really are fricking stupid
fraid so
Remember when the pig-E cult thought WWE was going to WBD and booting Dynamite off the station?
they memoryholed that one hard
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It's been his "life" since he stopped enjoying WWE nearly TWENTY YEARS AGO.
Sad, but true.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>AEW does not have the upper hand in their negotiations.
turns out "better than expected" ratings came back to haunt tony khan, eh?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>AEW needs WBD. NBA does not need WBD
AEW literally does the best demo after the NBA for a mere fraction of the price. Fox can easily snap them up for half of what they were paying for Smackdown and do relatively the same ratings.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Remember when the AEW cult was gloating about getting a billion dollar deal last summer. I member...
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Remember when the pig-E cult thought WWE was going to WBD and booting Dynamite off the station?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The fact that WBD even brought them in for discussions was embarrassing enough. They ended getting 5 billy from Netflix, which WBD could never match.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Warner bringing in WWE for discussions makes AEW look bad because it just does
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The fact that WBD even brought them in for discussions was embarrassing enough
Yes it was pretty embarrassing how quickly they told WWE to frick off while you dorks were jerking off about Punk and Zaslav being bros like fricking idiots
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I mean, sure. WBD said no to RAW and Netflix picked it up for 5 billy instead. Was that supposed to be a loss on WWE's resume?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
AEW has shit-tier ad rates and they're permanently losing hundreds of thousands of viewers every few of months. Fox wouldn't pay a dime for them.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>AEW gets roughly half the ad value of Smackdown with less than a third of its viewership
You just proved it's more valuable than Smackdown kek
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>AEW has less ad value than Smackdown? >heh you just proved AEW is more valuable
The copium has caused this AEWpiggy's brain to stop functioning I'm afraid
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>e-drone cannot do basic arithmetic
No wonder Lachlan CANCELLED Smackdown.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>half the value
37 + 37 does not equal 85 brainlet
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>half the value
37 + 37 does not equal 85 brainlet
Tina would stop wanking dogs if it meant AEW could get half of what SmackDown gets.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's not a chart of ad rates you fat fricking moron, holy shit how are you this stupid?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's a chart showing what the market pays for AEW viewers compared to WWE viewers.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>AEW pulls half WWE does despite costing 6 times less.
I don't think this is proving your argument, buddy.
You’re absolutely delusional if you think AEW is pulling 2 million on fox
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In businesses if you lose your money maker you usually have to scale down, which is what would happen to TNT in this case
They'll definitely be pulling a million or more on Fox.
>Fox can easily snap them up for half of what they were paying for Smackdown and do relatively the same ratings.
It doesn't work like that because Fox wouldn't just put Dynamite, Rampage, or even Collision on Friday Nights at 8 PM because Smackdown would be airing on Friday Nights at 8 PM on USA Network. Smackdown on FS1 pulls better numbers than Dynamite does on Wednesday Night at 8 PM on TBS. Speaking of FS1, that would be their best bet but if Smackdown with Roman Reigns or Cena barely pulls 1 million viewers, wtf do you think Dynamite with Young Bucks and Okada's going to do? Or Rampage with Mistico and Rocky Romero? Collision with FTR? Lmao get real for once.
Smackdown on FS1 (approximately same amount of homes as TBS) for the majority has pulled way less numbers than Dynamite. You're completely delusional
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You're completely delusional
Yet I'm seeing nothing but 800k and millies on that chart you posted, homosexual. Tell me when's the last time AEW did any numbers resembling 888k, 881k, 1.03m, 902k, 1.23m?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That was a rating from a year ago. Cable has been dying since then. AEW has literally done milly streaks more than the entirety of SD FS1 ratings. You're an utter moron if you actually think Dynamite will pull much less than SD on Fox. Maybe 500k less, but not any noticeable difference for a fraction of the price. You tell me which is better.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>cable is dying >Raw hit over 2 milly like two weeks ago
Nice try, moron
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>RAW barely breaking 2 milly >and only sometimes
must be why it got cancelled
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Once again, it's a self own when you post this when you realize that AEW wouldn't even fit on the chart because it only goes above a milly.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why would AEW be on a chart about the ratings of RAW?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>post-WM show at the peak of their hype with one of the biggest Hollywood stars in the Rock spearheading it
RAW is literally doing its lowest ratings now in history and they are considered 'good' and 'peak' period. The last one they did was something like 1,5 million, wasn't it? It's still decent, but you can't deny cable is dying. They were doing like 3-4 million just 5 years ago.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Cable is dying but AEW is dying faster
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Whatever makes you cope better.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
show your working
WWE's viewership decline is less than cable as a whole.
Yeah, because their viewership decline in 2002 was a decade ahead of cable's kek
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Yea they aren't a part of this reality any longer. They literally have convinced themselves that WWE is the wrestling company that is dying and AEW still is the most valuable wrestling company and doing better than ever despite the death of cable and every other hardship they face. There should be a case study on this showing how extreme tribalism can lead to psychosis
astral levels of projection here
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
AEW lost 150k viewers in a month.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Smackdown lost over a million in a week. Probably why it was cancelled.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You keep saying this as if it didn't get renewed which is really fricking weird considering that AEW actually didn't get renewed. Maybe wait a little bit, bro. Things tend to backfire on your cult and I have a feeling this will be yet another instance of that
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You keep saying this as if it didn't get renewed
Because it didn't get renewed, you fat moron. It got cancelled. AEW still has time to negotiate a new deal. Slopdown does not. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It got renewed...move on, you slobbering psychopath
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>moving to
then they're not "renewed", are they, you fat fricking moron?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Renewed means the show has been giving the green light to continue. AEW, on the other hand, does not know if it will be airing in 2025 since it hasn't been renewes
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>all this cope
slopdown got cancelled lil bro, I know it's hard for you to accept but that's just the way it is
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>renewes
>AEW still has time to negotiate a new deal
>Simpboomers
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
They literally do though, that's a factually true statement. Like when the doctor tells you that your weight is not healthy and you're going to die because of it. You may not like it, but crying doesn't change the truth.
>pigwheels is so bush league he's getting worked by a simpsons meme
THE ABSOLUTE STATE
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
lose weight b***hbreasts
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I accept your surrender. I will not, however, accept your virginity. You can keep it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I will not, however, accept your virginity. You can keep it.
You can't have mine, I lost it years ago. And why would you want it, when yours is perfectly intact?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Now now troony, just because the doctors cut off your virgin wiener during your gender reassignment surgery that doesn't mean you lost your virginity
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
seethe all you want b***hbreasts, slopdown still got cancelled lol
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>e-drones literally cannot reply without mentioning their fetish
>be AEW fan >go to show >barely a thousand people there >they move me around to "be on TV" (aka hide the empty seats) >wrestler comes out >gets in ring >turns his back to everyone >starts talking to empty seats
grim
Wow so it's like 2010s Smackdown?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Wow so it's like 2010s Smackdown?
No, it's like April 2024 AEW.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
So TNT cancelled Dynamite when it moved to TBS? I'm trying to understand moronic AEWtist logic
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Never argue with Folder homosexual, you're wasting your time. show stats.jpg, jpm rights.jpg, he'll always whip out some homosexual image and make bullshit arguments that make no sense. Guy is a complete idiot.
Ohtani wasn't fired by the Angels, his contract expired. LeBron wasn't run out of Cleveland and had to go to the Heat/Lakers, he signed there as a free agent. And Fox didn't want to [over]pay the same amount Comcast/Universal did to bring WWE Smackdown back to cable.
WWE is guaranteed 5 years on Netflix
See above, it's a moron making moron arguments. "WWE is going to be in so much trouble if they get cancelled after only 5 years!" - as if they'll allow themselves to be Tony KWAB'd and only have a few months to find a new deal. Netflix likely needs to tell them a year or more ahead of time if they're opting out, and from there, WWE can find a new home on Amazon, NBCU, etc, or go back to Cable TV
If you combine all 3 shows and count the catch up viewers that watch within 48 hours, AEW does good business. Why would you get rid? In 7 months time they'll be the only wrestling on television. You people overestimate how many wrestling fans over 50 are going to sign up to Netflix for WWE. They couldn't even get the average audience of SD to sign up to the network. Worldwide. In 7 months their network will die after just over a decade in service. They have tanked their own network and TV deals for Netflix who are well known to drop all manner of TV series no matter how much acclaim they get
Smackdown will be on USA and NXT will be on CW, you moronic fat frick. You're an embarrassment to AEW fans, which I didn't even realize was possible.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>AEW still has time to negotiate a new deal
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
They literally do though, that's a factually true statement. Like when the doctor tells you that your weight is not healthy and you're going to die because of it. You may not like it, but crying doesn't change the truth.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Smackdown had a brief spike of 1 milly casuals which quickly wore off because those things never last. AEW lost 150k core viewers forever.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
WWE's viewership decline is less than cable as a whole.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That Aew ad revenue there is the max ad revenue AEW will ever get because nobody but homosexual smarks with an agenda watch that garbage
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Thinking FOX is going to be in on AEW is delusional. Only if it's on FS1 or Fox Sports.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You’re absolutely delusional if you think AEW is pulling 2 million on fox
>How does their #1 show after the NBA have the upper hand now that the NBA isn't in play?
lol lol lol
In businesses if you lose your money maker you usually have to scale down, which is what would happen to TNT in this case
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You’re absolutely delusional if you think AEW is pulling 2 million on fox
you're absolutely delusional if you think they wouldn't
Dave compared them directly. Are you illiterate? what value does using the NBA TV rights bidding war have as a comparison to aew's negotiating strategy for their own rights?
>Are you illiterate?
nah you are, clearly
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
ok but please explain the similarities between the NBA and aew when it comes to negotiating a new TV rights deal this year.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
They're both negotiating television deals with WBD, you obese, dense virgin.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
so that's the only similarity?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You want me to sit here and list all the similarities between AEW and the NBA? Go frick yourself with a cactus, fatso. AEW is still negotiating their new TV deal, while Slopdown already got cancelled. These are facts, no matter how loud you squeal about them.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ooh no sorry, the negotiation period with wbd has expired with no new deal. So they got cancelled by big bull zaszlav I’m sorry to say
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the negotiation period with wbd has expired
No, the exclusive window has ended, that is not the same thing. Is English not your first language? It really shows.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You want me to sit here and list all the similarities between AEW and the NBA?
you already listed all of the similarities between them when you said that they were both negotiating with WBD. now, tell us the similarities between aew's negotiating position and the NBA's negotiating position.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
ok but first post a timestamped pic of you standing on a bathroom scale
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
so there aren't any similarities?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
see
ok but first post a timestamped pic of you standing on a bathroom scale
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nah I accept yours.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Nah I accept yours
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Going off the chart (You) posted, it doesn't even have to pull 2 million to offer more value than SLOPdown.
Probably because its viewers aren't stupid, cultist poors.
>Fox can easily snap them up for half of what they were paying for Smackdown and do relatively the same ratings.
It doesn't work like that because Fox wouldn't just put Dynamite, Rampage, or even Collision on Friday Nights at 8 PM because Smackdown would be airing on Friday Nights at 8 PM on USA Network. Smackdown on FS1 pulls better numbers than Dynamite does on Wednesday Night at 8 PM on TBS. Speaking of FS1, that would be their best bet but if Smackdown with Roman Reigns or Cena barely pulls 1 million viewers, wtf do you think Dynamite with Young Bucks and Okada's going to do? Or Rampage with Mistico and Rocky Romero? Collision with FTR? Lmao get real for once.
>he thinks Smackdown on USA would outdraw Dynamite on FOX
Smackdown on FS1 couldn't even outdraw Dynamite on TBS loool
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Fox can easily snap them up for half of what they were paying for Smackdown and do relatively the same ratings
AEWtists have lost the fricking plot if they think Fox is picking them up
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Fox can easily snap them up for half of what they were paying for Smackdown and do relatively the same ratings.
It doesn't work like that because Fox wouldn't just put Dynamite, Rampage, or even Collision on Friday Nights at 8 PM because Smackdown would be airing on Friday Nights at 8 PM on USA Network. Smackdown on FS1 pulls better numbers than Dynamite does on Wednesday Night at 8 PM on TBS. Speaking of FS1, that would be their best bet but if Smackdown with Roman Reigns or Cena barely pulls 1 million viewers, wtf do you think Dynamite with Young Bucks and Okada's going to do? Or Rampage with Mistico and Rocky Romero? Collision with FTR? Lmao get real for once.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
lol look at that false equivalence. WBD is scrambling to renew their deal with the NBA but it's taking a long time because both sides are trying to utterly israelite the shit out of each other. Meanwhile, WBD let their exclusivity window with AEW expire because they aren't renewing it. That's why Meltzer is making up pre-cope that Tony wants to test the open market. It's not like they wanted to be renewed anyway baka
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Tony wants to test the open market
you and the rest of the swine have not been able to explain why this can't be true kek. literally all you have is headcanon
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
See
No one said that they did, you fat fricking schizo. But regardless of negotiating positions, it's stupid to take the first deal you're offered. Please lose weight.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Tony has never indicated that he wants to test the open market. He's actually indicated the exact opposite. He also doesn't have the balls or the business sense to willingly shop AEW around to other networks.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>source: OINK OINK OINK
nice cope fatso, now please go shower
>If WBD intended to renew AEW then they would've done it during the exclusivity window
No sane businessman would do that because you'd basically be accepting whatever AEW wants. The exclusivity period is for special occasions were both sides can come to an agreement. Deals rarely manage to land during the exclusivity period though
So are you moronic? His point is the people pointing to WBD and AEW not making a deal yet as some kind of own can't explain why they also waited last minute for a much more valuable property.
so you think that aew and the NBA have comparable negotiating positions with TV networks?
No one said that they did, you fat fricking schizo. But regardless of negotiating positions, it's stupid to take the first deal you're offered. Please lose weight.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Dave compared them directly. Are you illiterate? what value does using the NBA TV rights bidding war have as a comparison to aew's negotiating strategy for their own rights?
So are you moronic? His point is the people pointing to WBD and AEW not making a deal yet as some kind of own can't explain why they also waited last minute for a much more valuable property.
>"I’m really happy at Warner Brothers Discovery and MY GOAL, all things being equal, would be to KEEP AEW here FOREVER at WBD. Mr. Zaslav has been really kind to me and given me great opportunities and all things being equal or even a couple cents difference, I WOULD TAKE A PENNY OR TWO LESS TO STAY AT WARNER BROTHERS DISCOVERY. You don’t see that in media businesses very much, that kind of LOYALTY." >https://411mania.com/wrestling/tony-khan-love-aew-stay-tnt-tbs-family-business/
So which is it? Tony is lying and he doesn't care about that "loyalty" or AEW's getting cancelled and homies are coping?
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AEsWines do NOT like the truth lmao. If WBD intended to renew AEW then they would've done it during the exclusivity window. The idea that Tony is the one who let the exclusivity window expire is pure gigacope especially considering how much he sucks WBD's dick and calls them the best partner ever who he absolutely wants to stay with.
It would make sense...if Tony hadn't already said he would happily stay with WBD for even a few pennies less a couple months ago. Is dave calling Tony a liar now or is he just illogically coping again?
I didn’t misconstrue it. He said when he listened to offers he’d stay with WBD if they gave a lesser offer than others. Fact is WBD have not made an offer yet. Dave is talking shite.
>Fact is WBD have not made an offer yet
Again, you have literally no way of knowing this at all, you clinically obese schizo moron. Stop listening to the voices in your head and go lose weight.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Stop projecting. AEW have received zero offers. If they did your oracle Dave would say it. Pay him 12.99 like a good simp.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>AEW have received zero offers >source: your fat moron head
take your meds and lose weight
No it seems like all aew programming did by wbd if he’s shopping around. Sorry blud
>if he’s shopping around
that doesn't mean it got cancelled, you fat fricking moron
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>that doesn’t mean it got cancelled
If the same for Smackdown meant it was cancelled then it does for aew too. Aew got cancelled. All you can do is cry about it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>If the same for Smackdown meant it was cancelled then it does for aew too
I swear to God you must have a <70 IQ. AEW is still negotiating their TV deal. Slopdown is not, it got cancelled. These are not the same thing. Go have a nice day.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
See
Ooh no sorry, the negotiation period with wbd has expired with no new deal. So they got cancelled by big bull zaszlav I’m sorry to say
Aew is no liberty negotiating with wbd, so they got cancelled. Fraid so, old boy
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Aew is no liberty negotiating with wbd
good morning sirs
>he’d stay with WBD if they gave a lesser offer than others
"a penny or two less" is what you misconstrued as obviously there are other incentives gained by staying on the network. >shite
ah, explains the derangement ITT
These are Tony’s own words
Even if I get punched in the face with circumstances, it doesn’t mean that I’m going to take it out on staff by cutting 100 staff or laying off 30 wrestlers,” said Khan. “I really care about the people here and I would do anything I can to protect the jobs and livelihood of the people that work here. That’s a family business and that’s the difference between a family business and a public company in a lot of ways. Not every family business has those principles, but we do and that’s how I was raised. I feel there is not enough loyalty in the entertainment business. Yes, it’s no secret and it is a business. We’ll be up at the end of 2024, and I would love to stay at Warner Brothers Discovery forever.”
Khan later went on to discuss his thoughts on WBD CEO David Zaslav. “Mr. Zaslav has been really kind to me and given me great opportunities and all things being equal, or even a couple cents difference, I would take a penny or two less to stay at Warner Brothers Discovery,” said Khan. “You don’t see that in media businesses very much, that kind of loyalty. I really appreciate everything they’ve done for me and continue to do.”
You know all those regions still get AEW on FITE right?
>that doesn’t mean it got cancelled
If the same for Smackdown meant it was cancelled then it does for aew too. Aew got cancelled. All you can do is cry about it.
Imagine getting this in your feelings over the fact that Smackdown was cancelled.
Yea they aren't a part of this reality any longer. They literally have convinced themselves that WWE is the wrestling company that is dying and AEW still is the most valuable wrestling company and doing better than ever despite the death of cable and every other hardship they face. There should be a case study on this showing how extreme tribalism can lead to psychosis
This thread has made it exceedingly clear that E-drones are ESL's with 0 reading comprehension. That's probably a big part of the reason slopdown got cancelled.
AEW was pulling 1 milly just last year. Guess how many people tuned out?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Smackdown had literal millions of people nope out >but a few 100K stopped watching Dynamite OWNED
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Dynamite never a milly to lose, so yeah it's significant how many people are currently not watching SlopEW
Don't worry, Papa Meltzer has your cope for you.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Dynamite never a milly to lose
You never had a toilet to use kek
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Dynamite never a milly to lose
GMS
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>posts image of Dynamite having a million
So just to confirm, if AEW doesn't get their deal renewed by WBD, even if another network picks them up, they got cancelled, correct? Just wanna make sure we get this right when the inevitable happens
Only if someone from Warner shoots on AEW like Based Lachlan did on the Smackdownies
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>still not understanding that Lachlin was damage controlling because he got outbidded by USA and didn't want to look cheap
You are autistic and you have no idea how the world works
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Lachlin
who?
Smackdown could afford to lose literal millions and keep going. AEW however has lost more viewers than it can afford to lose. There isn't much leeway when your ceiling is 1 milly. Oops, I mean 900k. Oops, I mean 800k. Oops, I mean 700k.
Apparently it couldn't since it was cancelled
>Oops, I mean
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2 weeks ago
Anonymous
copest post of the day right here
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You are autistic and you have no idea how the world works
he typed, through fat tears of gravy
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Smackdown could afford to lose literal millions and keep going. AEW however has lost more viewers than it can afford to lose. There isn't much leeway when your ceiling is 1 milly. Oops, I mean 900k. Oops, I mean 800k. Oops, I mean 700k.
So just to confirm, if AEW doesn't get their deal renewed by WBD, even if another network picks them up, they got cancelled, correct? Just wanna make sure we get this right when the inevitable happens
>be AEW fan >go to show >barely a thousand people there >they move me around to "be on TV" (aka hide the empty seats) >wrestler comes out >gets in ring >turns his back to everyone >starts talking to empty seats
grim
the problem e-wipes have with Fox isn't just that smackdown got canceled off network tv, but that Lachlan absolutely buried their poor and stupid asses afterwards in a public earnings call lmao
So you disagree with Dave and what he said then? Sounds like Dave is saying WWE didn't take Fox's deal because they wanted a better deal. Doesn't sound like they were cancelled to me.
Tina tipped "his" desperate hand by begging WBD to renew for less money. Anyone who isn't moronic saw trouble ahead for Poop Dick Wrestling. But it's a secondary concern for Tina herself. gAyEW was always meant to ruin indie wrestling, which it did. It's going to take years for the scene to heal if it's ever going to happen at all.
I'm not that anon but it seems pretty clear what they mean by that. If AEW didn't exist then all of its stars would be working and drawing for multiple indies every week rather than sitting in the toybox.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's as simple as this. Peaks of careers have been completely wasted in dog wanker's catering section.
>Tina
You're so fricking dumb kek.
>AEW ruined indy wrestling
You have squealed this literally hundreds of times and have never once explained how.
It has been explained repeatedly but you're too dumb to understand.
>Why doesn't Dave ever sound this defensive when people question WWE?
AEW is catered to his preference in wrestling. If AEW doesn't draw then it means Meltzer's opinions don't draw a dime and his opinions only apply to the minority of fans.
I don't even think he's getting paid by Tony Khan and I don't think he hates Triple H's WWE, he's just sticking up for AEW's type of wrestling in a sly israeli way.
Tony is obsessed with being on the same channel as WCW because he's a mark. He's not a smart businessman, is he was then he wouldn't be recklessly wasting money as obviously as he is.
He has named his titles after the TV stations. He literally named Dynamite after TNT, and it's very funny that they got pushed off of TNT. He has gone on record saying that he would take a lower offer to stay where he is.
I don't know why Dave needs to report so favourably about AEW, he has clear bias.
I'm not that anon but it seems pretty clear what they mean by that. If AEW didn't exist then all of its stars would be working and drawing for multiple indies every week rather than sitting in the toybox.
It's as simple as this. Peaks of careers have been completely wasted in dog wanker's catering section.
[...]
It has been explained repeatedly but you're too dumb to understand.
>working and drawing for multiple indies
go look up who all of PWG's champions are kek
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>go look up who all of PWG's champions are kek
no, make your point or shut the frick up
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I totally care about the indys OINK >doesn't even know who are the champs in PWG
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
when did i say I cared about the indies? I just explained what that other anon was saying because you were too moronic to understand.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>admits he doesn't actually care about the indies he just wants to pretend AEW is hurting them
Frick off, porkchop.
>"u have to like all the indies!!"
no
That isn't what I said and that's not PWG.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes you did
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No I didn't.
[...]
PWG hasn't run a show in a year, you fricking moron.
worked
>go look up who all of PWG's champions are kek
I took your advice because I don't follow this shit. AEW guys are their champions and the promotion has been inactive since August 2023. Really debunking the "AEW is killing the indies" thesis here.
>it's AEW's fault Super Dragon's wife is sick
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>"u have to like all the indies!!"
no
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I totally care about the indys OINK >doesn't even know who are the champs in PWG
PWG hasn't run a show in a year, you fricking moron.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>go look up who all of PWG's champions are kek
I took your advice because I don't follow this shit. AEW guys are their champions and the promotion has been inactive since August 2023. Really debunking the "AEW is killing the indies" thesis here.
>Negotiations with WBD expired on Wednesday
Except, as has already been explained to your fat, moronic, ESL ass several times, that's the end of the exclusive negotiation window, not the end of negotiations.
WBD isn't "locking the NBA" because they got outbid by NBC and can't match the offer due to being in debt. If anything, they'll drop AEW and use that money in a last ditch effort to keep the NBA
new pigcope just dropped
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Warner isn't dying lmao
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
is this all due to aew? or just mostly
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
If the rumors are true, WBD took some amount of equity in AEW, which would make them partially liable for all the losses that AEW has accrued. In this scenario, AEW might not be the worst of their woes, but AEW sure ain't helping matters.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>stock MARKet
>half the value
37 + 37 does not equal 85 brainlet
>roughly
Don't dilate yourself into a fit there, troony. You might pop a buddy blood vessel
>buddy
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
how is plummeting market capitalization a good sign
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The people willing to put their money (and careers, and retirement, and life savings) where their mouth is say WBD is collapsing and you should steer clear. Who out there is saying you should buy WBD, but not leading by example, not buying up the stock while it's this low? Hucksters, swindlers, and trained liars.
WWE/NBA went past their negotiating windows because they, for multiple rounds of TV talks now, have had multiple suitors lined up every renewal period. And both companies already have multiple media rights partners - WWE for 2025 will have NBCU, Netflix and The CW. --- AEW, unlike your mother, only has 1 partner....WBD. They do not have media companies lined up to throw money at them.
AEW, which recently got cancelled in Serbia and Mexico, needs WBD much more than vice-versa. But WBD needs to overpay for NBA because it's the only premium sports package up for grabs, NFL isn't back up again until 2033 and UFC signed with ESPN for $300M/year.
The idea AEW *wants* to test the open market is a half-truth at best. Their TV titles are literally named TBS and TNT, they're going to have egg on their face if they enter 2025 without programs across both networks.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
promo's frickin good
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
WWE knew well in advance where their programs woupd need to be as well. AEW being as behind the curve as they presently are is a very, very bad sign.
WBD isn't "locking the NBA" because they got outbid by NBC and can't match the offer due to being in debt. If anything, they'll drop AEW and use that money in a last ditch effort to keep the NBA
trolling aside aew is unwatchable garbage
i pretend to like it on here sometimes but its so fricking boring. so many matches without a reason for being
That Aew ad revenue there is the max ad revenue AEW will ever get because nobody but homosexual smarks with an agenda watch that garbage
lose breasts /misc/cel
is this all due to aew? or just mostly
If the rumors are true, WBD took some amount of equity in AEW, which would make them partially liable for all the losses that AEW has accrued. In this scenario, AEW might not be the worst of their woes, but AEW sure ain't helping matters.
Please stop discussing numbers you don't understand, it's embarrassing.
I'm not the one fixating on stonks like a mark kek
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I'm not the one fixating on stonks
Yeah I can see why you stopped
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm not even the guy posting those OPs but thanks for letting us know he still bothers you.
Like when does Dave's running PR for AEW become criminal? He's a "journalist". The FTC should investigate him
least insane pig
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I want it to fricking go down so I can make my money back. I bought a nice amount at around $92, but right now I feel like I fricked up
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
the powers that be are desperately trying to prop up the stock market. take whatever profit you can.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
or I can hope for the presidential elections to lower everyones stock and make some money back (ignoring the loss of opportunity income because I dont operate like a fricking company)
Unless it now climbs to 110 and then drops back to 95 because of a new presidential elect (or biden). Thats my queue to frick off.
It wouldn't surprise me if WBD renews AEW, but boots their shows over to TruTV. TruTV is supposedly getting rebranded with Impractical Jokers shifting over to TBS.
Listen, I know this is a wrestling board and it's easy to not know about things because they don't involve wrestling. But guys like Tony Khan (As well as guys in others like Nick Khan or Big Head Barrios) were businessmen first in other industries. This ain't their first go round on negotiations.
Tony has never been a business man for a single solitary moment of his life.
Tony has less business experience than fast food managers. homie has never run a successful business and all jobs he's ever had were because of his dad's connections and money.
Tony has less business experience than fast food managers. homie has never run a successful business and all jobs he's ever had were because of his dad's connections and money.
>Dave explains why Tony hasn't taken a deal with WBD yet.
tony hasnt taken a deal with WBD yet because no deal has been offered. aew is not a hot property anymore if tony thinks it is hes crazy. he has no bargaining power because all another network has to do is look at the ratings. if it werent for the big bangs 1 million viewers lead in dynamite would be even worse off. they can replace dynamite tomorrow with more big bang and it wont cost them anything and it would get better ratings in the process
TKO/WWE/UFC has deals with Disney, NBCU, Netflix and The CW. There's an opening for AEW to land on WBD or Paramount, but both companies are struggling mightily, so they can give a competitive/market deal but they're not breaking the bank.
The ongoing 'Cord Cope is that FOX is interested, but that makes little to no sense. They dumped WWE (Smackdown got cancelled, sadly) because it was considered low-brow among advertisers. AEW has much worse foul language and bleeding women power-bombing each other through tables.....so not exactly something Tide, Lexus or Captain Crunch would want to buy ad space for.
My bet and my hope is that AEW lands a decent TV deal but a GREAT streaming deal to balance things out. If Tony Khan can show proof that AEW PPV sales aren't inflated VPN+Europe+$20 PPV numbers, but that there's really tens of thousands of US/Canadians buying each $60 offering, then the Streaming deal could really come through in the clutch. Adding old ROH/NJPW/Indy shows is a pipe dream because they use so much copyrighted music and other elements, MAX/Amazon/whoever isn't going to allow it. But AEW+nu-ROH back catalog could get some good views.
We'll all have to stay tuned to see how things pan out
If you combine all 3 shows and count the catch up viewers that watch within 48 hours, AEW does good business. Why would you get rid? In 7 months time they'll be the only wrestling on television. You people overestimate how many wrestling fans over 50 are going to sign up to Netflix for WWE. They couldn't even get the average audience of SD to sign up to the network. Worldwide. In 7 months their network will die after just over a decade in service. They have tanked their own network and TV deals for Netflix who are well known to drop all manner of TV series no matter how much acclaim they get
>AEW does good business
It doesn't though. It's wrestling so the ad rates are fundamentally shit and it's hemorrhaging viewers like crazy. Nobody cares if they're the only wrestling on traditional television or not - people made up their minds about AEW and they decided it's gay as frick. Nothing can boost its viewership at this point.
>cuckhoop is the second most valuable franchise
BBC lovers really are trying this shit when in many markets with an NHL and Black person team the NHL team gets better TV numbers. Also there is no fricking way the NBA is better for marketing than the NFL, WWE, Nascar and MLB. LMAO. LMAOEVEN
>Lachlan Murdoch is going to put Dynamite on Network TV AND also put Rampage and Collision on FS1 AND give AEW a streaming deal with Tubi >this is all more cost effective than the money Fox didn't make it on advertisers after they paid a billion for WWE
>WBD is going to give NBA level money to AEW for Dynamite, Collision, Rampage, BOTB, reality shows, plus PPVs, archives and ROH on MAX >but if it's true that they're struggling for money and won't spend big, then that's okay because Tony Khan will just get a mega deal from Fox >but if it's true that Fox is done w wrestling and already spent money on college sports, then thats okay because Tony will just get a mega deal from Amazon cuz they spend money on everything >but if it's true that Amazon only had interest in WWE and is putting it's money into the NBA, then thats okay because Tony will just get a mega deal from CBS/Paramount
>Dave explains why
*copes that
Anyone with a brain knows what TK is doing. All the children in the peanut gallery with their photoshopped charts can stick then directly up their urethra
>fantasizing about children’s urethras
Typical aewtist schizo behavior
Check the facts homo. You're the one talking about children you fricking loser pervert.
>e-piggy takes remark at literal face value
No wonder Smackdown was cancelled.
sad but true
Who are you to doubt Dave Meltzer?
He has over 50 years of wrestling journalistic experience, he's a jam up guy and if Meltzer says that AEW have a bunch of TV deal on the table and they're waiting for the right deal to show up then you should account that as a fact jack.
If he's in with Tony then why wouldn't this be accurate? Seems like epigs trying to work themselves into a pretzel
>Journalist
Ok WON gay.
this but unironically
This! Dave Meltzer is the most ultimate authority on pro wrestling. If you disagree with him you’re either ignorant or biased
BIG if true
>there is no way CM Punk is going back to WWE
You nursing a groin pull anon?
This was my favorite Bret interview ever. I wish he did more like this.
>Who are you to doubt El Dandy?
>tony is going to go to open market to try and strike a deal from scratch with 7 months left in 2024
Surely you don’t believe this?
He's weighing options. Hes not starting from scratch. Do you get that from reading this tweet?
So he’s weighing his options, which means he was negotiating with other channels during his exclusivity period? Sounds like contract tampering to me
That I can't say Idk. I'm just saying regardless if you people don't like him. He knows what he's trying to do buisness wise. The general public can try to know but they don't.
>he knows what he’s trying to do business wise
I really hope you don’t believe that, because everything we’ve seen in the last 5 years of AEW shows Tony has no idea how to run a business
>everything in my headcanon shows what I want to believe
bathe+lose weight
From Fulham to Jacksonville everyone knows that Tony Khan is a shit businessman. His Ls are constant, embarrassing and legendary.
And yet he beat Paul.
You're fricking illiterate kek. Thanks for selling that you're still mad about St Paul getting rightly called out for his tampering.
NBA is over priced trash, it doesnt even get good ratings and the star players like sitting out on televised games constantly.
>Aew
>Test out the market
>To get better deals
>the cope for WBD deciding not to renew AEW during the exclusivity period is that Tony wants to float AEW on the open market
LOL. Here's what really happened: Tony demanded a ludicrous pay raise and WBD told him to go frick himself. Now he's hoping some other network will give him ludicrous money for AEW but of course nobody will. So he'll try to re-open negotiations with WBD but they'll just tell him to go frick himself again. It's truly over. No renewy.
Tony has said that he wants to roll ROH into the next deal. Imagine being WBD and seeing viewing figures for Collision and Rampage, then Tony tells you to pick up and even more dimeless show
>the cope
You're describing your own post lol. You know that AEW have to accept the offer from Warner before Warner can renew them, right? Who am I kidding, of course your dimwit ass doesn't.
AEsWines do NOT like the truth lmao. If WBD intended to renew AEW then they would've done it during the exclusivity window. The idea that Tony is the one who let the exclusivity window expire is pure gigacope especially considering how much he sucks WBD's dick and calls them the best partner ever who he absolutely wants to stay with.
>If WBD intended to renew NBA then they would've done it during the exclusivity window.
>Trannies failing to grasp that NBA has the upper hand in their negotiations and that AEW does not in fact have the upper hand in their negotiations.
AEW needs WBD. NBA does not need WBD, it's that simple lmao. cope and (You) me all you want, I'm right and you know it.
>AEW doesn't have the upperhand in negotiations because...IT JUST DOESN'T OINKAY!?
It's been his "life" since he stopped enjoying WWE nearly TWENTY YEARS AGO.
Explain how AEW has the upper hand in negotiations. You absolutely can't.
>How does their #1 show after the NBA have the upper hand now that the NBA isn't in play?
lol lol lol
How does AEW, a crumbling company with horrible ad rates, have the upper hand at the negotiating table? You can't explain this.
>a crumbling company with horrible ad rates
but enough about WWE
It has overachieved Warner's initial expectations massively.
e-drones really are fricking stupid, no wonder Smackdown was cancelled.
>e-drones really are fricking stupid
fraid so
they memoryholed that one hard
>It's been his "life" since he stopped enjoying WWE nearly TWENTY YEARS AGO.
Sad, but true.
>AEW does not have the upper hand in their negotiations.
turns out "better than expected" ratings came back to haunt tony khan, eh?
>AEW needs WBD. NBA does not need WBD
AEW literally does the best demo after the NBA for a mere fraction of the price. Fox can easily snap them up for half of what they were paying for Smackdown and do relatively the same ratings.
Remember when the AEW cult was gloating about getting a billion dollar deal last summer. I member...
Remember when the pig-E cult thought WWE was going to WBD and booting Dynamite off the station?
The fact that WBD even brought them in for discussions was embarrassing enough. They ended getting 5 billy from Netflix, which WBD could never match.
>Warner bringing in WWE for discussions makes AEW look bad because it just does
>The fact that WBD even brought them in for discussions was embarrassing enough
Yes it was pretty embarrassing how quickly they told WWE to frick off while you dorks were jerking off about Punk and Zaslav being bros like fricking idiots
I mean, sure. WBD said no to RAW and Netflix picked it up for 5 billy instead. Was that supposed to be a loss on WWE's resume?
AEW has shit-tier ad rates and they're permanently losing hundreds of thousands of viewers every few of months. Fox wouldn't pay a dime for them.
>AEW gets roughly half the ad value of Smackdown with less than a third of its viewership
You just proved it's more valuable than Smackdown kek
>AEW has less ad value than Smackdown?
>heh you just proved AEW is more valuable
The copium has caused this AEWpiggy's brain to stop functioning I'm afraid
>e-drone cannot do basic arithmetic
No wonder Lachlan CANCELLED Smackdown.
>half the value
37 + 37 does not equal 85 brainlet
Tina would stop wanking dogs if it meant AEW could get half of what SmackDown gets.
That's not a chart of ad rates you fat fricking moron, holy shit how are you this stupid?
It's a chart showing what the market pays for AEW viewers compared to WWE viewers.
>AEW pulls half WWE does despite costing 6 times less.
I don't think this is proving your argument, buddy.
They'll definitely be pulling a million or more on Fox.
Smackdown on FS1 (approximately same amount of homes as TBS) for the majority has pulled way less numbers than Dynamite. You're completely delusional
>You're completely delusional
Yet I'm seeing nothing but 800k and millies on that chart you posted, homosexual. Tell me when's the last time AEW did any numbers resembling 888k, 881k, 1.03m, 902k, 1.23m?
That was a rating from a year ago. Cable has been dying since then. AEW has literally done milly streaks more than the entirety of SD FS1 ratings. You're an utter moron if you actually think Dynamite will pull much less than SD on Fox. Maybe 500k less, but not any noticeable difference for a fraction of the price. You tell me which is better.
>cable is dying
>Raw hit over 2 milly like two weeks ago
Nice try, moron
>RAW barely breaking 2 milly
>and only sometimes
must be why it got cancelled
Once again, it's a self own when you post this when you realize that AEW wouldn't even fit on the chart because it only goes above a milly.
Why would AEW be on a chart about the ratings of RAW?
>post-WM show at the peak of their hype with one of the biggest Hollywood stars in the Rock spearheading it
RAW is literally doing its lowest ratings now in history and they are considered 'good' and 'peak' period. The last one they did was something like 1,5 million, wasn't it? It's still decent, but you can't deny cable is dying. They were doing like 3-4 million just 5 years ago.
Cable is dying but AEW is dying faster
Whatever makes you cope better.
show your working
Yeah, because their viewership decline in 2002 was a decade ahead of cable's kek
astral levels of projection here
AEW lost 150k viewers in a month.
Smackdown lost over a million in a week. Probably why it was cancelled.
You keep saying this as if it didn't get renewed which is really fricking weird considering that AEW actually didn't get renewed. Maybe wait a little bit, bro. Things tend to backfire on your cult and I have a feeling this will be yet another instance of that
>You keep saying this as if it didn't get renewed
Because it didn't get renewed, you fat moron. It got cancelled. AEW still has time to negotiate a new deal. Slopdown does not. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
It got renewed...move on, you slobbering psychopath
>moving to
then they're not "renewed", are they, you fat fricking moron?
Renewed means the show has been giving the green light to continue. AEW, on the other hand, does not know if it will be airing in 2025 since it hasn't been renewes
>all this cope
slopdown got cancelled lil bro, I know it's hard for you to accept but that's just the way it is
>renewes
>Simpboomers
>pigwheels is so bush league he's getting worked by a simpsons meme
THE ABSOLUTE STATE
lose weight b***hbreasts
I accept your surrender. I will not, however, accept your virginity. You can keep it.
>I will not, however, accept your virginity. You can keep it.
You can't have mine, I lost it years ago. And why would you want it, when yours is perfectly intact?
Now now troony, just because the doctors cut off your virgin wiener during your gender reassignment surgery that doesn't mean you lost your virginity
seethe all you want b***hbreasts, slopdown still got cancelled lol
>e-drones literally cannot reply without mentioning their fetish
Wow so it's like 2010s Smackdown?
>Wow so it's like 2010s Smackdown?
No, it's like April 2024 AEW.
So TNT cancelled Dynamite when it moved to TBS? I'm trying to understand moronic AEWtist logic
Never argue with Folder homosexual, you're wasting your time. show stats.jpg, jpm rights.jpg, he'll always whip out some homosexual image and make bullshit arguments that make no sense. Guy is a complete idiot.
Ohtani wasn't fired by the Angels, his contract expired. LeBron wasn't run out of Cleveland and had to go to the Heat/Lakers, he signed there as a free agent. And Fox didn't want to [over]pay the same amount Comcast/Universal did to bring WWE Smackdown back to cable.
See above, it's a moron making moron arguments. "WWE is going to be in so much trouble if they get cancelled after only 5 years!" - as if they'll allow themselves to be Tony KWAB'd and only have a few months to find a new deal. Netflix likely needs to tell them a year or more ahead of time if they're opting out, and from there, WWE can find a new home on Amazon, NBCU, etc, or go back to Cable TV
Smackdown will be on USA and NXT will be on CW, you moronic fat frick. You're an embarrassment to AEW fans, which I didn't even realize was possible.
>AEW still has time to negotiate a new deal
They literally do though, that's a factually true statement. Like when the doctor tells you that your weight is not healthy and you're going to die because of it. You may not like it, but crying doesn't change the truth.
Smackdown had a brief spike of 1 milly casuals which quickly wore off because those things never last. AEW lost 150k core viewers forever.
WWE's viewership decline is less than cable as a whole.
That Aew ad revenue there is the max ad revenue AEW will ever get because nobody but homosexual smarks with an agenda watch that garbage
Thinking FOX is going to be in on AEW is delusional. Only if it's on FS1 or Fox Sports.
You’re absolutely delusional if you think AEW is pulling 2 million on fox
In businesses if you lose your money maker you usually have to scale down, which is what would happen to TNT in this case
>You’re absolutely delusional if you think AEW is pulling 2 million on fox
you're absolutely delusional if you think they wouldn't
>Are you illiterate?
nah you are, clearly
ok but please explain the similarities between the NBA and aew when it comes to negotiating a new TV rights deal this year.
They're both negotiating television deals with WBD, you obese, dense virgin.
so that's the only similarity?
You want me to sit here and list all the similarities between AEW and the NBA? Go frick yourself with a cactus, fatso. AEW is still negotiating their new TV deal, while Slopdown already got cancelled. These are facts, no matter how loud you squeal about them.
Ooh no sorry, the negotiation period with wbd has expired with no new deal. So they got cancelled by big bull zaszlav I’m sorry to say
>the negotiation period with wbd has expired
No, the exclusive window has ended, that is not the same thing. Is English not your first language? It really shows.
>You want me to sit here and list all the similarities between AEW and the NBA?
you already listed all of the similarities between them when you said that they were both negotiating with WBD. now, tell us the similarities between aew's negotiating position and the NBA's negotiating position.
ok but first post a timestamped pic of you standing on a bathroom scale
so there aren't any similarities?
see
I accept your concession
Nah I accept yours.
>Nah I accept yours
Going off the chart (You) posted, it doesn't even have to pull 2 million to offer more value than SLOPdown.
Probably because its viewers aren't stupid, cultist poors.
>he thinks Smackdown on USA would outdraw Dynamite on FOX
Smackdown on FS1 couldn't even outdraw Dynamite on TBS loool
>Fox can easily snap them up for half of what they were paying for Smackdown and do relatively the same ratings
AEWtists have lost the fricking plot if they think Fox is picking them up
>Fox can easily snap them up for half of what they were paying for Smackdown and do relatively the same ratings.
It doesn't work like that because Fox wouldn't just put Dynamite, Rampage, or even Collision on Friday Nights at 8 PM because Smackdown would be airing on Friday Nights at 8 PM on USA Network. Smackdown on FS1 pulls better numbers than Dynamite does on Wednesday Night at 8 PM on TBS. Speaking of FS1, that would be their best bet but if Smackdown with Roman Reigns or Cena barely pulls 1 million viewers, wtf do you think Dynamite with Young Bucks and Okada's going to do? Or Rampage with Mistico and Rocky Romero? Collision with FTR? Lmao get real for once.
lol look at that false equivalence. WBD is scrambling to renew their deal with the NBA but it's taking a long time because both sides are trying to utterly israelite the shit out of each other. Meanwhile, WBD let their exclusivity window with AEW expire because they aren't renewing it. That's why Meltzer is making up pre-cope that Tony wants to test the open market. It's not like they wanted to be renewed anyway baka
>Tony wants to test the open market
you and the rest of the swine have not been able to explain why this can't be true kek. literally all you have is headcanon
See
Tony has never indicated that he wants to test the open market. He's actually indicated the exact opposite. He also doesn't have the balls or the business sense to willingly shop AEW around to other networks.
>source: OINK OINK OINK
nice cope fatso, now please go shower
>If WBD intended to renew AEW then they would've done it during the exclusivity window
No sane businessman would do that because you'd basically be accepting whatever AEW wants. The exclusivity period is for special occasions were both sides can come to an agreement. Deals rarely manage to land during the exclusivity period though
kek b***hbreasts really malding this morning lol
I can tell your job is meaningless if you have one
Fine cope. Why did they wait to lock up the NBA?
>here's what happened: [loud schizo headcanon]
beggin' ya to take your meds
>here's what REALLY happened...
>[E-drone pulls his pants down and takes a shit directly into your mind]
lol it's gonna be so funny when AEW doesn't get renewed
>the rights to broadcast a weekly 700k show and a bunch of other dimeless small bullshit shows are the same as the NBA broadcast rights
is Dave ok?
Are you?
so you think that aew and the NBA have comparable negotiating positions with TV networks?
No one said that they did, you fat fricking schizo. But regardless of negotiating positions, it's stupid to take the first deal you're offered. Please lose weight.
Dave compared them directly. Are you illiterate? what value does using the NBA TV rights bidding war have as a comparison to aew's negotiating strategy for their own rights?
So are you moronic? His point is the people pointing to WBD and AEW not making a deal yet as some kind of own can't explain why they also waited last minute for a much more valuable property.
>"I’m really happy at Warner Brothers Discovery and MY GOAL, all things being equal, would be to KEEP AEW here FOREVER at WBD. Mr. Zaslav has been really kind to me and given me great opportunities and all things being equal or even a couple cents difference, I WOULD TAKE A PENNY OR TWO LESS TO STAY AT WARNER BROTHERS DISCOVERY. You don’t see that in media businesses very much, that kind of LOYALTY."
>https://411mania.com/wrestling/tony-khan-love-aew-stay-tnt-tbs-family-business/
So which is it? Tony is lying and he doesn't care about that "loyalty" or AEW's getting cancelled and homies are coping?
>which of my headcanons is true?
>laugh at dimwit delusions
>AI slop
every time
It would make sense...if Tony hadn't already said he would happily stay with WBD for even a few pennies less a couple months ago. Is dave calling Tony a liar now or is he just illogically coping again?
They have no cope for this.
Tony literally said they’d take a smaller offer from TNT to stay with them.
Dave:
>If I repeat something morons on Fhite misconstrued I win!
So exactly what the AEW cult is doing with AEW going to Fox in this very thread?
I didn’t misconstrue it. He said when he listened to offers he’d stay with WBD if they gave a lesser offer than others. Fact is WBD have not made an offer yet. Dave is talking shite.
>Fact is WBD have not made an offer yet
Again, you have literally no way of knowing this at all, you clinically obese schizo moron. Stop listening to the voices in your head and go lose weight.
Stop projecting. AEW have received zero offers. If they did your oracle Dave would say it. Pay him 12.99 like a good simp.
>AEW have received zero offers
>source: your fat moron head
take your meds and lose weight
>if he’s shopping around
that doesn't mean it got cancelled, you fat fricking moron
>that doesn’t mean it got cancelled
If the same for Smackdown meant it was cancelled then it does for aew too. Aew got cancelled. All you can do is cry about it.
>If the same for Smackdown meant it was cancelled then it does for aew too
I swear to God you must have a <70 IQ. AEW is still negotiating their TV deal. Slopdown is not, it got cancelled. These are not the same thing. Go have a nice day.
See
Aew is no liberty negotiating with wbd, so they got cancelled. Fraid so, old boy
>Aew is no liberty negotiating with wbd
good morning sirs
He's not been able to listen to other offers yet because he's still been in the exclusivity period
>shite
Why are Bongs so cucked for WWE bros? You'd think WWE treating their local scene like it was Nash in 92 would give them a clue.
>AEW is crumbling
>IT JUST IS OKAY!?
>Why are Bongs so cucked for WWE bros?
because they're Indian
>he’d stay with WBD if they gave a lesser offer than others
"a penny or two less" is what you misconstrued as obviously there are other incentives gained by staying on the network.
>shite
ah, explains the derangement ITT
These are Tony’s own words
Even if I get punched in the face with circumstances, it doesn’t mean that I’m going to take it out on staff by cutting 100 staff or laying off 30 wrestlers,” said Khan. “I really care about the people here and I would do anything I can to protect the jobs and livelihood of the people that work here. That’s a family business and that’s the difference between a family business and a public company in a lot of ways. Not every family business has those principles, but we do and that’s how I was raised. I feel there is not enough loyalty in the entertainment business. Yes, it’s no secret and it is a business. We’ll be up at the end of 2024, and I would love to stay at Warner Brothers Discovery forever.”
Khan later went on to discuss his thoughts on WBD CEO David Zaslav. “Mr. Zaslav has been really kind to me and given me great opportunities and all things being equal, or even a couple cents difference, I would take a penny or two less to stay at Warner Brothers Discovery,” said Khan. “You don’t see that in media businesses very much, that kind of loyalty. I really appreciate everything they’ve done for me and continue to do.”
Aew got ding dong diddly cancelled
nah slopdown did
No it seems like all aew programming did by wbd if he’s shopping around. Sorry blud
>but WWE!
now even Meltzer is doing it, jesus christ
AEW got cancelled in Mexico and parts of Europe. DAZN cancelled their ppvs. Dave is literally pic related.
You know all those regions still get AEW on FITE right?
Imagine getting this in your feelings over the fact that Smackdown was cancelled.
>it’s a good thing they got cancelled!
>Warner has no interest in renewing AEW
>that's why they've kept the exclusivity period going as long as possible
I refuse to believe people this stupid can function.
if you check the ratings, the show before aew dynamite and the show after dynamite both outdraw it.
so you might be thinking, why does wbd even show aew? when it draws less than the shows preceding and following it?
there are 2 options
1.for some reason they feel a need to put more live tv shows on and dont want their whole channel to be pre recorded
2.its an ecw/tna type situation where tony is paying them a fee to put aew on the air
>ECW was paying to be on the air
holy frick you can't be serious
If they're cancelled, why can Mexico still watch on FITE?
I thought TNA was a big deal a few months ago, what happened?
Ojama is on full damage control I see.
Sadly so. AEW being cancelled by WBD is like 9/11 for trannies
Yea they aren't a part of this reality any longer. They literally have convinced themselves that WWE is the wrestling company that is dying and AEW still is the most valuable wrestling company and doing better than ever despite the death of cable and every other hardship they face. There should be a case study on this showing how extreme tribalism can lead to psychosis
>There should be a case study on this showing how extreme tribalism can lead to psychosis
Yeah, on E-drones.
>PLEASE STOP POSTING IT OINK OINK OINK
slopdown got cancelled lol
This thread has made it exceedingly clear that E-drones are ESL's with 0 reading comprehension. That's probably a big part of the reason slopdown got cancelled.
Why are you melting down so badly? Is it fear or anger?
Why don't you lose weight? It's because you hate yourself, right?
Dynamite was cancelled sadly, but Crynamite remains forever LMAO
Damn, dronies are really fricking stupid. That must be why their shows keep getting cancelled.
You’re thinking of aew I’m afraid, as wbd decided to give them a new deal which means, you guessed it, cancelled
>wbd decided to give them a new deal which means, you guessed it, cancelled
this homie havin' a full-on mental breakdown lol
holy shit kek
Smackdown was pulling nearly 5 milly during its first week on FOX. Guess how many didn't return the following week.
AEW was pulling 1 milly just last year. Guess how many people tuned out?
>Smackdown had literal millions of people nope out
>but a few 100K stopped watching Dynamite OWNED
Dynamite never a milly to lose, so yeah it's significant how many people are currently not watching SlopEW
Don't worry, Papa Meltzer has your cope for you.
>Dynamite never a milly to lose
You never had a toilet to use kek
>Dynamite never a milly to lose
GMS
>posts image of Dynamite having a million
Only if someone from Warner shoots on AEW like Based Lachlan did on the Smackdownies
>still not understanding that Lachlin was damage controlling because he got outbidded by USA and didn't want to look cheap
You are autistic and you have no idea how the world works
>Lachlin
who?
Apparently it couldn't since it was cancelled
>Oops, I mean
copest post of the day right here
>You are autistic and you have no idea how the world works
he typed, through fat tears of gravy
Smackdown could afford to lose literal millions and keep going. AEW however has lost more viewers than it can afford to lose. There isn't much leeway when your ceiling is 1 milly. Oops, I mean 900k. Oops, I mean 800k. Oops, I mean 700k.
Nah we don't watch AEW here. All our shows got renewed for more money
nah slopdown got cancelled lol
this means WBD hasn't offered a good enough deal within the exclusive window or he would have accepted it
So just to confirm, if AEW doesn't get their deal renewed by WBD, even if another network picks them up, they got cancelled, correct? Just wanna make sure we get this right when the inevitable happens
So just to confirm, you're saying Smackdown got cancelled?
It got a better deal. Aew has no deal it literally got cancelled in markets across the world.
>It got a better deal.
so FOX cancelled it
>Aew has no deal
they do, and they're still working on a new one
>markets across the world = US cable deal
You're literally just spitting out whatever you can to cope kek
ITT: Poor, fat, virgin morons that think they can make better business decisions than a literal billionaire.
>be AEW fan
>go to show
>barely a thousand people there
>they move me around to "be on TV" (aka hide the empty seats)
>wrestler comes out
>gets in ring
>turns his back to everyone
>starts talking to empty seats
grim
Tony said he doesnt want to leave WB so it's WB not being interested
>headcanon
Looks just like 2010s Smackdown except the fans I can see there look like they're actually enjoying themselves
>when are these gay midgets gonna shut the frick up
Nope tony said it himself during multiple media scrums
the problem e-wipes have with Fox isn't just that smackdown got canceled off network tv, but that Lachlan absolutely buried their poor and stupid asses afterwards in a public earnings call lmao
fraid so
damn b***hbreasts is having another full-blown meltdown in this thread, ya hate to see it
Incoming 350 post there where elite tards prove how completely stupid they are all while crying about aew being cancelled
>aew being cancelled
AEW hasn't been cancelled, though. You're probably thinking of Slopdown. Slopdown got cancelled lol.
It has, actually, because wbd has not renewed them. That means they were cancelled
But they're still in negotiations, you stupid fricking homosexual. Unlike slopdown, which got cancelled.
So you disagree with Dave and what he said then? Sounds like Dave is saying WWE didn't take Fox's deal because they wanted a better deal. Doesn't sound like they were cancelled to me.
Tony said he is loyal to wbd
Looks to me they didnt agree on the price and WBD future endeavor tiny
>muh feelings
Tina tipped "his" desperate hand by begging WBD to renew for less money. Anyone who isn't moronic saw trouble ahead for Poop Dick Wrestling. But it's a secondary concern for Tina herself. gAyEW was always meant to ruin indie wrestling, which it did. It's going to take years for the scene to heal if it's ever going to happen at all.
lose weight b***hbreasts
>Tina
You're so fricking dumb kek.
>AEW ruined indy wrestling
You have squealed this literally hundreds of times and have never once explained how.
I'm not that anon but it seems pretty clear what they mean by that. If AEW didn't exist then all of its stars would be working and drawing for multiple indies every week rather than sitting in the toybox.
It's as simple as this. Peaks of careers have been completely wasted in dog wanker's catering section.
It has been explained repeatedly but you're too dumb to understand.
>WBD future endeavor
gms
Why doesn't Dave ever sound this defensive when people question WWE?
>Why doesn't Dave ever sound this defensive when people question WWE?
AEW is catered to his preference in wrestling. If AEW doesn't draw then it means Meltzer's opinions don't draw a dime and his opinions only apply to the minority of fans.
I don't even think he's getting paid by Tony Khan and I don't think he hates Triple H's WWE, he's just sticking up for AEW's type of wrestling in a sly israeli way.
his time is coming up
Clearly there's a bidding war going on or they would have announced it already. Damn it feels good to be all elite.
fraid so
Tony is obsessed with being on the same channel as WCW because he's a mark. He's not a smart businessman, is he was then he wouldn't be recklessly wasting money as obviously as he is.
He has named his titles after the TV stations. He literally named Dynamite after TNT, and it's very funny that they got pushed off of TNT. He has gone on record saying that he would take a lower offer to stay where he is.
I don't know why Dave needs to report so favourably about AEW, he has clear bias.
AEW has the majority of its programming on TNT sers.
>Dynamite named after TNT and was moved to TBS
>Mention it as an aside
>ESL moron gets worked into a seethe
Touch grass, mental case
Learn English
lose weight
>Nooo I'm seething, I only have one response and it's to project my obesity!!!
Seriously, get a life.
>Touch grass, mental case
Not your journal lil pigbro
>working and drawing for multiple indies
go look up who all of PWG's champions are kek
>go look up who all of PWG's champions are kek
no, make your point or shut the frick up
>I totally care about the indys OINK
>doesn't even know who are the champs in PWG
when did i say I cared about the indies? I just explained what that other anon was saying because you were too moronic to understand.
>admits he doesn't actually care about the indies he just wants to pretend AEW is hurting them
Frick off, porkchop.
That isn't what I said and that's not PWG.
Yes you did
No I didn't.
worked
>it's AEW's fault Super Dragon's wife is sick
>"u have to like all the indies!!"
no
PWG hasn't run a show in a year, you fricking moron.
>go look up who all of PWG's champions are kek
I took your advice because I don't follow this shit. AEW guys are their champions and the promotion has been inactive since August 2023. Really debunking the "AEW is killing the indies" thesis here.
>CLEAR biastness
shut up gay
Some say it is so
Kek it do be like that
>Negotiations with WBD expired on Wednesday
Except, as has already been explained to your fat, moronic, ESL ass several times, that's the end of the exclusive negotiation window, not the end of negotiations.
Stop replying to yourself and go take a shower.
>all posted one minute apart
God you're fricking pathetic, just have a nice day already.
Don't dilate yourself into a fit there, troony. You might pop a buddy blood vessel
nah but slopdown is lol
>e-drones projecting Stamford warehousing of talent onto AEW
Every accusation is a confession.
pretty sure
WBD is literally on the verge of full on bankruptcy and liquidation.
If anybody gets a deal it'll be a fricking miracle.
Amazon's gonna buy WBD assets for pennies on the dollar. I doubt they're gonna want whatever WBD owns of AEW's equity.
kek I see the pigheaded cope has moved from "Warner does not want to renew" and now it's "WARNER IS DYING!"
>a dying company doesn't want to throw money at stupid shit like minor league wrestling
only you could think these are mutually exclusive approaches
Warner isn't dying lmao
new pigcope just dropped
>Warner isn't dying lmao
is this all due to aew? or just mostly
If the rumors are true, WBD took some amount of equity in AEW, which would make them partially liable for all the losses that AEW has accrued. In this scenario, AEW might not be the worst of their woes, but AEW sure ain't helping matters.
>stock MARKet
>roughly
>buddy
how is plummeting market capitalization a good sign
The people willing to put their money (and careers, and retirement, and life savings) where their mouth is say WBD is collapsing and you should steer clear. Who out there is saying you should buy WBD, but not leading by example, not buying up the stock while it's this low? Hucksters, swindlers, and trained liars.
WWE/NBA went past their negotiating windows because they, for multiple rounds of TV talks now, have had multiple suitors lined up every renewal period. And both companies already have multiple media rights partners - WWE for 2025 will have NBCU, Netflix and The CW. --- AEW, unlike your mother, only has 1 partner....WBD. They do not have media companies lined up to throw money at them.
AEW, which recently got cancelled in Serbia and Mexico, needs WBD much more than vice-versa. But WBD needs to overpay for NBA because it's the only premium sports package up for grabs, NFL isn't back up again until 2033 and UFC signed with ESPN for $300M/year.
The idea AEW *wants* to test the open market is a half-truth at best. Their TV titles are literally named TBS and TNT, they're going to have egg on their face if they enter 2025 without programs across both networks.
promo's frickin good
WWE knew well in advance where their programs woupd need to be as well. AEW being as behind the curve as they presently are is a very, very bad sign.
WBD isn't "locking the NBA" because they got outbid by NBC and can't match the offer due to being in debt. If anything, they'll drop AEW and use that money in a last ditch effort to keep the NBA
trolling aside aew is unwatchable garbage
i pretend to like it on here sometimes but its so fricking boring. so many matches without a reason for being
Not enough 20 minute promos for ya?
lose breasts /misc/cel
Please stop discussing numbers you don't understand, it's embarrassing.
>Please stop discussing numbers you don't understand
Take your own advice
I'm not the one fixating on stonks like a mark kek
>I'm not the one fixating on stonks
Yeah I can see why you stopped
I'm not even the guy posting those OPs but thanks for letting us know he still bothers you.
least insane pig
I want it to fricking go down so I can make my money back. I bought a nice amount at around $92, but right now I feel like I fricked up
the powers that be are desperately trying to prop up the stock market. take whatever profit you can.
or I can hope for the presidential elections to lower everyones stock and make some money back (ignoring the loss of opportunity income because I dont operate like a fricking company)
Unless it now climbs to 110 and then drops back to 95 because of a new presidential elect (or biden). Thats my queue to frick off.
Wow trannies are really mad that AEW got canceled
Doesn't WBD have an ownership stake in AEW? To let them walk out the door and negotiate elsewhere is very interesting
Like when does Dave's running PR for AEW become criminal? He's a "journalist". The FTC should investigate him
He hasn't been a journalist for years. When is the last time he actually broke a story? News of WWE's sale to Endeavor didn't come from him.
lmao they are not waiting to lock the NBA, they can't compete against the other deals
It wouldn't surprise me if WBD renews AEW, but boots their shows over to TruTV. TruTV is supposedly getting rebranded with Impractical Jokers shifting over to TBS.
Listen, I know this is a wrestling board and it's easy to not know about things because they don't involve wrestling. But guys like Tony Khan (As well as guys in others like Nick Khan or Big Head Barrios) were businessmen first in other industries. This ain't their first go round on negotiations.
>tony
>experienced businessman
lol
Tony has never been a business man for a single solitary moment of his life.
Tony has less business experience than fast food managers. homie has never run a successful business and all jobs he's ever had were because of his dad's connections and money.
half their belts are named after WB programming
>Dave explains why Tony hasn't taken a deal with WBD yet.
tony hasnt taken a deal with WBD yet because no deal has been offered. aew is not a hot property anymore if tony thinks it is hes crazy. he has no bargaining power because all another network has to do is look at the ratings. if it werent for the big bangs 1 million viewers lead in dynamite would be even worse off. they can replace dynamite tomorrow with more big bang and it wont cost them anything and it would get better ratings in the process
Tony literally said he didn’t want to go anywhere else. This is pure cope
he knows there's nowhere else he can go
TKO/WWE/UFC has deals with Disney, NBCU, Netflix and The CW. There's an opening for AEW to land on WBD or Paramount, but both companies are struggling mightily, so they can give a competitive/market deal but they're not breaking the bank.
The ongoing 'Cord Cope is that FOX is interested, but that makes little to no sense. They dumped WWE (Smackdown got cancelled, sadly) because it was considered low-brow among advertisers. AEW has much worse foul language and bleeding women power-bombing each other through tables.....so not exactly something Tide, Lexus or Captain Crunch would want to buy ad space for.
My bet and my hope is that AEW lands a decent TV deal but a GREAT streaming deal to balance things out. If Tony Khan can show proof that AEW PPV sales aren't inflated VPN+Europe+$20 PPV numbers, but that there's really tens of thousands of US/Canadians buying each $60 offering, then the Streaming deal could really come through in the clutch. Adding old ROH/NJPW/Indy shows is a pipe dream because they use so much copyrighted music and other elements, MAX/Amazon/whoever isn't going to allow it. But AEW+nu-ROH back catalog could get some good views.
We'll all have to stay tuned to see how things pan out
>If Tony Khan can show proof that AEW PPV sales aren't inflated
if negotiations hinge upon this, AEW is fuuuucked
If you combine all 3 shows and count the catch up viewers that watch within 48 hours, AEW does good business. Why would you get rid? In 7 months time they'll be the only wrestling on television. You people overestimate how many wrestling fans over 50 are going to sign up to Netflix for WWE. They couldn't even get the average audience of SD to sign up to the network. Worldwide. In 7 months their network will die after just over a decade in service. They have tanked their own network and TV deals for Netflix who are well known to drop all manner of TV series no matter how much acclaim they get
WWE is guaranteed 5 years on Netflix
>AEW does good business
It doesn't though. It's wrestling so the ad rates are fundamentally shit and it's hemorrhaging viewers like crazy. Nobody cares if they're the only wrestling on traditional television or not - people made up their minds about AEW and they decided it's gay as frick. Nothing can boost its viewership at this point.
>AEWtists are so mindbroken that they think Fox would be interested in Crynamite
>cuckhoop is the second most valuable franchise
BBC lovers really are trying this shit when in many markets with an NHL and Black person team the NHL team gets better TV numbers. Also there is no fricking way the NBA is better for marketing than the NFL, WWE, Nascar and MLB. LMAO. LMAOEVEN
So much for that great relationship with WB he kept bragging about
remember when Tony publicly said he would take a lower offer to stay with WBD? what an idiot
Shhh. You're supposed memoryhole that because it contradicts Meltzer's headcanon that Tony wants to explore his options.
remember when wwe was supposedly cancelled by got a better deal, and aew waited to be picked up exclusively by warner and they declined?
>Fox didn't lock up Smackdown because WWE got a better deal elsewhere
Porkwheels fricking decimated again. You love to see it.
NOOOOOO HELP MEEEEEEE!
Unironically, if you were the top brass of FOX/WBD/other big company, how would you justify grabbing the AEW deal for your TV?
Maybe for one of the small channels but no way to justify putting it on the main one.
Screencap is saved.
Will roast the frick out of you all console warring homosexuals, the day any development regarding this happens.
E-ggers & Trannies, may the best man win.
Just like I will make fun of every joshibug that drops dead for either suicide, murder or natural dead. Everything is fair in shitposting.
lit
>NBA is the second most valuable franchise in the US
Pretty sure the WWE is the second most valuable franchise, following the UFC.
Reminder: Slopdown was cancelled
>Lachlan Murdoch is going to put Dynamite on Network TV AND also put Rampage and Collision on FS1 AND give AEW a streaming deal with Tubi
>this is all more cost effective than the money Fox didn't make it on advertisers after they paid a billion for WWE
Do you AEWtists actually hear yourselves?
>WBD is going to give NBA level money to AEW for Dynamite, Collision, Rampage, BOTB, reality shows, plus PPVs, archives and ROH on MAX
>but if it's true that they're struggling for money and won't spend big, then that's okay because Tony Khan will just get a mega deal from Fox
>but if it's true that Fox is done w wrestling and already spent money on college sports, then thats okay because Tony will just get a mega deal from Amazon cuz they spend money on everything
>but if it's true that Amazon only had interest in WWE and is putting it's money into the NBA, then thats okay because Tony will just get a mega deal from CBS/Paramount