Not sure if Jericho is a draw, but the match was fun and unique and actually held my attention for 20 minutes , which most long matches don't
that match ws awesome, too bad most of it was in PIP, the fite stream was kino tho
also the commentary throughout was hilarious
even Taz forgot he was supposed to be hating Jericho. the learning tree is already looking to be the next big Jericho gimmick that eill take over
then eveh Winnipeg cheered as he's acting heelish
why is there always a plummet at the start?
i can only think it means no matter what they put on before dynamite it always draws more
so why not just put more of that stuff on instead and draw more
maybe thats why WB dont want to negotiate i guess
Viewer # is higher, but the demo for The Big Bang Theory is usually quite a bit lower than Dynamite. I believe most of the time it's more so a .16-.18.
>i can only think it means no matter what they put on before dynamite it always draws more
Whatever they put on after Rampage draws more too. There's always a spike on the overrun because people are turning back to the channel to see if that gay wrestling shit is finished.
Live TV always has more value to advertisers and in turn TV execs. I've read it's because not live TV is heavily recorded by DVR's and the ads either get cut out automatically or the user can skip through them while sports viewers want to watch it live so the ads have more value.
I don't know if the DVR thing is true but there must be something about live TV that is gold to them. Otherwise WB would just cancel AEW, save a boatload of cash and run another hour of Big Bang and whatever else they own and be UP overall but they don't do this.
All marquee channels need some amount of original programming, along with reruns/movies, otherwise they can't justify high fees to be included in TV packages. WBD would be stupid to not make a strong play for AEW, but they can't give them a blank check just because WWE is doing well.
DVR, if you start the show 20 minutes late, you can skip all the commercials. So it's not so much DVR for ad rates, it's watching the show days later. Anyone motivated enough to watch the show days later probably isn't going to sit through commercials. Someone who gets home at 9pm will start the show from the beginning and use the commercials as a piss/unload the dishwasher/walk the dog/etc break.
>The main event was Nightingale vs Blue?
No way that's true, right? Didn't Jericho also have a hardcore match vs 1 of the beloved Japs? Why didn't that main?
If Tony is trying to build up the women's division for Sasha's impending arrival, he is barking up the wrong tree. When you're hemorrhaging viewers, it's best to go back to what works: mens wrestling.
AEW's women's division needs more multi-threaded storylines. There's just not enough overlap tying everything together.
Consider: instead of Willow vs Skye Blue in singles match, they do Willow/Statlander vs Saraya/Harley, which would be an admittedly shit match......but somewhere in there, you have Skye Blue walk out and taunt Willow, have Willow run after her and abandon the match, Saraya hits Stat with some kind of weapon and gets the pin. You could even have Zak Knight out at ringside holding down Stat's foot so she can't kick out, then that leads to Zack/Saraya vs Stat/Angelo mixed tag on a pre-show or other spot.
Result: Willow/Stat internal issues, Saraya/Harley get a much-needed win, Zak/Angelo continue a feud, Skye TV time, etc. Instead of all that, you get a street fight with no moving parts that will be forgotten next week.
First quarter is just the average, so if the BBT audience turn the channel within 3 minutes instead of within 8 minutes, then the lead-in won't show. Lots of viewers must have *immediately* tuned out when Tony Khan in a neck brace showed up on screen
White clearly goes over while Miz adjusts his mic work to get Jay, not himself, over.....a no-lose situation. But smarks have to frame it in terms of Meltzer's approval of their match(es), which is the most worthless way possible to frame a feud meant to draw eyes to the product, give the fans an entertaining show and (just btw) make some motherfricking money.
This isn't like a MLB game where if you go 4-6 with 3 HRs and 10 RBIs, you just had a career night whether there was 35,000 in the crowd or 3,500. Full buildings matter, social media engagement, merchandise sales, it all matters.
One of the interesting things about Dynamite in the first two years is that it had a fiercely loyal fanbase and a large percentage would follow Dynamite through some really brutal timeslot changes due to TNT preemptions. Declining quality and oversaturation means people don't even want to stay tuned to Rampage when it's part of Dynamite.
The main event was Nightingale vs Blue? How in the deep blue hell can you think of such a match to close your night?
Also: >Rocky Romero >Dante Martin >Isiah Kassidy
Get rid of those guys, for the love of God. They never change gimmick, they never change look, no one believes they'll ever win anything and yet you keep showcasing them.
At least Isiah has the girly scream that's good for a laugh before he gets murdered. Why Tony has been featuring Dante for the past 3 years when he literally always loses a significant number of viewers is beyond me.
>The main event was Nightingale vs Blue?
No way that's true, right? Didn't Jericho also have a hardcore match vs 1 of the beloved Japs? Why didn't that main?
If Tony is trying to build up the women's division for Sasha's impending arrival, he is barking up the wrong tree. When you're hemorrhaging viewers, it's best to go back to what works: mens wrestling.
Even redditors were circlejerking over the Bucks being ratings poison but they clearly had a positive effect on this show. The random "banger" match with no build was the biggest drop. Not counting the Rampage drop off that is.
>but they clearly had a positive effect on this show
them showing up at the end of the show to attack a returning Kenny had no effect, unless you think a small increase in le demo means anything. And the opening quarter always does higher, you can't attribute that to anyone.
>Copeland tanks the ratings >Orange homosexual tanks the ratings >Jericho gains viewers in both quarters he's in despite AEW fans claiming to hate him >Claudio tanked the ratings >Omemega's big return and the big injury angle did nothing
it's over
Damn, over 100k people changed the channel during a Young Bucks promo. It's sad Tony had to double down on pushing those nerds. They are demonstrably driving fans away.
Serious non-console war question: why does nobody like Jay White >he's booked like shit
He has been tanking the ratings literally since day 1. I don't think AEW ever had a roster member that would crater this hard. Obviously people don't like him. Why?
so 100k people are watching reruns of the big bang theory, see that indian gay come on and say no milly as they change the channel?
woof
Not bad
Jericho is truly the only draw they have left
Not sure if Jericho is a draw, but the match was fun and unique and actually held my attention for 20 minutes , which most long matches don't
From day one
He should be world champion now.
STRAP NOW!
that match ws awesome, too bad most of it was in PIP, the fite stream was kino tho
also the commentary throughout was hilarious
even Taz forgot he was supposed to be hating Jericho. the learning tree is already looking to be the next big Jericho gimmick that eill take over
then eveh Winnipeg cheered as he's acting heelish
how can anyone hate being nice?
FOR THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP BABY
Based Learning Tree bringing in viewers
>Omega didn't draw
damn
so Omega was not the draw
>thinking the end of a Deeb match brought up and help a number for 2 quarters
you have actual shit for brains
sub 700K bros
we fricking won
the starting point is well below what they had been doing even 4 weeks ago. in turn, they lost fewer viewers throughout the 2 hours.
>Over 200k tuning out for Switch the channel again
Holy kek
that's just the rampage effect. even after collision it plummets. the show has a WWE Shotgun Saturday Night stigma now.
Jack Perry is a draw. Punk lost. Punk is hurt again. Punk's pussy is bleeding. Perry won.
The only way Jungle b***h won is if he's a double agent for WWE and got paid for taking down AEW lmao
Keep coping while Cody Blowds keeps dropping viewers. Raw will be down this low soon enough. Jungle God won. You lost. Lose weight tard.
when's his contract up? jungleboy/punk wrestlemania 41
we don't want Jungle Cuck
have punk squash him and then send him to put people over in nxt
>Punk lost
Could you write that again pal.- I couldn't see it between Punk drawing more than three times than Jack b***h in his hottest angle ever
Where's your wife, Phil? What does Drew's dick taste like?
>thinking about dicks
so it's true people crave for what they don't have
Tastes like money and a large audience
He didn't main event All Out 2021
Punk and MJF drew the house, no one was watching fricking Adam Cole
>Punk and Omega
ftfy
>Punk and MJF drew the house
Keep telling yourself that
https://www.sportskeeda.com/aew/news-aew-dynamite-ratings-drop-despite-cm-punk-vs-mjf
It's just a fact and your article has nothing to do with it. Keep pretending Punk wasn't a draw, he's still the top draw.
he tanked Collision and his MJF main event match
My man, you are literally posting proof Adam Cole (and Orange Cassidy! and the Young Bucks!) drew a higher number than Punk on the same show
only a fricking idiot will come to the conclusion kek
>1053 is less than 1042
On planet moron
That was Revolution. All Out was his match against Darby. Also undeniably drawn based on it being his first match back.
The fact that Tony never did anything with Butcher pisses me the frick off
same
dimes look
Lol do you mean to tell me that RAW is getting more viewers in the demo than AEW is getting total? Oh dear oh dear.
Afraid so.
it could be Switchy the channel or it could be Rampage itself is the biggest antidraw of all time
The audience stayed for the first quarter and then noped the frick out for Switch-Dante despite no ad break.
Wanted to see the finish of the Omega angle, then turned it off. Rampage is anti-dimes.
>Jericho-Ciabatta moron kino
>Switchy the channel vs. Dante Martin
Damn Jay White ain't getting renewed on his contract is he?
so what youre saying is nobody is a draw?
this is why you are a shit booker tony
PLEASE MIZ I WAS WRONG
DAT DROP DOE
HOLY MOLY
>200k viewers noped the duck out for the third hour
brutal
why is there always a plummet at the start?
i can only think it means no matter what they put on before dynamite it always draws more
so why not just put more of that stuff on instead and draw more
maybe thats why WB dont want to negotiate i guess
Viewer # is higher, but the demo for The Big Bang Theory is usually quite a bit lower than Dynamite. I believe most of the time it's more so a .16-.18.
weird about the demo, why do people younger than 18/older than 49 watch big bang theory, they wont get any of the jokes. its all millennial nerd humor
It means 100k BBT viewers don't like wrestling
>i can only think it means no matter what they put on before dynamite it always draws more
Whatever they put on after Rampage draws more too. There's always a spike on the overrun because people are turning back to the channel to see if that gay wrestling shit is finished.
Live TV always has more value to advertisers and in turn TV execs. I've read it's because not live TV is heavily recorded by DVR's and the ads either get cut out automatically or the user can skip through them while sports viewers want to watch it live so the ads have more value.
I don't know if the DVR thing is true but there must be something about live TV that is gold to them. Otherwise WB would just cancel AEW, save a boatload of cash and run another hour of Big Bang and whatever else they own and be UP overall but they don't do this.
All marquee channels need some amount of original programming, along with reruns/movies, otherwise they can't justify high fees to be included in TV packages. WBD would be stupid to not make a strong play for AEW, but they can't give them a blank check just because WWE is doing well.
DVR, if you start the show 20 minutes late, you can skip all the commercials. So it's not so much DVR for ad rates, it's watching the show days later. Anyone motivated enough to watch the show days later probably isn't going to sit through commercials. Someone who gets home at 9pm will start the show from the beginning and use the commercials as a piss/unload the dishwasher/walk the dog/etc break.
AEW's women's division needs more multi-threaded storylines. There's just not enough overlap tying everything together.
Consider: instead of Willow vs Skye Blue in singles match, they do Willow/Statlander vs Saraya/Harley, which would be an admittedly shit match......but somewhere in there, you have Skye Blue walk out and taunt Willow, have Willow run after her and abandon the match, Saraya hits Stat with some kind of weapon and gets the pin. You could even have Zak Knight out at ringside holding down Stat's foot so she can't kick out, then that leads to Zack/Saraya vs Stat/Angelo mixed tag on a pre-show or other spot.
Result: Willow/Stat internal issues, Saraya/Harley get a much-needed win, Zak/Angelo continue a feud, Skye TV time, etc. Instead of all that, you get a street fight with no moving parts that will be forgotten next week.
That's too much info. You're in too deep, brother. Fantasy booking AEW when the owner is already a fantasy booker is an excercise in futility.
They don't call me the Diatribal Chief for nothin'
Tony will never hire someone to help him book. The irony being, he gets all his booking ideas from anons in prowrestling forums.
>he gets all his booking ideas from anons in prowrestling forums.
Which forums, exactly? I have lots of ideas for his female wrestlers.
if anon had a youtube channel or an account on the observer forum tony would hire him lickety split on the spot.
the viewership after rampage also went up during the overrun. Proof Tony is paying to be on air.
wait, I thought Omega was 6 feet?
Why is he on the same head lenght as 5 foot 1 Adam Smol?
look at his feet
i expected q3 to have more of a downturn. Edge vs Matthews was so long and boring, with about 3 chinlock spots.
Where’s Sheldon?
Were they coast to coast again or was BBT just not the lead-in this week? That first quarter is quite low?
First quarter is just the average, so if the BBT audience turn the channel within 3 minutes instead of within 8 minutes, then the lead-in won't show. Lots of viewers must have *immediately* tuned out when Tony Khan in a neck brace showed up on screen
more consistant than usual for some reason, so thats good
BUT
>muh nfl draft bump
>muh tony shilled aew infront of 20m nfl fans
>muh new nwo
>muh kennys back
>muh 50m roster
needle didnt move at all
im shocked, i thought that the 650k last week was a fluke
I never liked Kenny Opedo but he dragged the ratings up.
668k is up? Oof what's down then?
>668k is up
It is on planet moron.
Holy Shit even Big Dimes Sheldon said frick this show.
Feuding with Miz doesn't sound so bad anymore, does it? the state of that dumb kiwi homosexual
miz is shoot a bigger star and draw than everyone in aew as we speak.
i guess okada has him beat in asia but everywhere else
White clearly goes over while Miz adjusts his mic work to get Jay, not himself, over.....a no-lose situation. But smarks have to frame it in terms of Meltzer's approval of their match(es), which is the most worthless way possible to frame a feud meant to draw eyes to the product, give the fans an entertaining show and (just btw) make some motherfricking money.
This isn't like a MLB game where if you go 4-6 with 3 HRs and 10 RBIs, you just had a career night whether there was 35,000 in the crowd or 3,500. Full buildings matter, social media engagement, merchandise sales, it all matters.
You can't hide
not enough credit being given to Cesaro and Cage's random bangerino losing 100k viewers
Cesaro has always been a shitter.
Huh. Thought the buddy match would drop worse.
One of the interesting things about Dynamite in the first two years is that it had a fiercely loyal fanbase and a large percentage would follow Dynamite through some really brutal timeslot changes due to TNT preemptions. Declining quality and oversaturation means people don't even want to stay tuned to Rampage when it's part of Dynamite.
Jayxirs…. Maybe the pre-show is where we belong
To be fair, anybody would plummet with Dante Martin.
Pre-Show Jay White has a nice ring to it
>everyone making fun of perry promo on x
but somehow tarzan kid won lmao
>switchy the channel
YIKES!!!
Straight up shitter and piss break quarter.
Copeland bros. OC bros. Timeless bros
>pockets and trent baretta in a segment together
its like tony wanted that quarter to go down
The drop for Switchy the Channel is glorious.
honestly the fact that Cope/Matthews sustained viewership through a 2 ad break quarter hour is damn impressive. Tony needs to notice this.
I think people got a little bit more excited after Cuckys “injury”.
>remove mjf and punk, the only two guys who are naturals on the mic
>everyone stops watching
>Kenny's big return and injury angle didn't move the needle at all
KEK WHAT AN ANTI-DRAW PEDOPHILE
>Rampage starts
>200,000 AEW fans tune out
is there any reason why that show still exists?
It is apparent that they need somewhere to book the mystery meats against Jay Switchthechannel and nobody dares to let them go
is this the new normal for AEW? When is the new tv deal supposed to be done?
The main event was Nightingale vs Blue? How in the deep blue hell can you think of such a match to close your night?
Also:
>Rocky Romero
>Dante Martin
>Isiah Kassidy
Get rid of those guys, for the love of God. They never change gimmick, they never change look, no one believes they'll ever win anything and yet you keep showcasing them.
At least Isiah has the girly scream that's good for a laugh before he gets murdered. Why Tony has been featuring Dante for the past 3 years when he literally always loses a significant number of viewers is beyond me.
Rocky Romero is a double agent working for Tony Khan to help him poach NJPW talent, that's why he gets the pity bookings on rampage
>The main event was Nightingale vs Blue?
No way that's true, right? Didn't Jericho also have a hardcore match vs 1 of the beloved Japs? Why didn't that main?
If Tony is trying to build up the women's division for Sasha's impending arrival, he is barking up the wrong tree. When you're hemorrhaging viewers, it's best to go back to what works: mens wrestling.
SWITCHY THE FRICKING CHANNEL
W
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If AEW fans love their company so much, why did 250k of them tune out when Rampage started?
apologize to jeribloat
Bucks tank every quarter they're ever in bros.....
Bucks are anti-draw shitter bros....
SWERVEY THE RATINGS
>AEWtists are unironically trying to claim Punk wasn't a draw
Tony isn't going to give you a job for defending him
>tfw oc only tanked total viewers by 31k
Orange chads, we're eating well tonight!
Someone update the no 900K and 850K count.
Last time AEW drew a milly was February 22 2023.
Last time AEW drew a 900k was October 18 2023.
Last time AEW drew a 850k was January 17 2024.
holy fricking kek they're actually dying real soon
Last time AEW drew a 800k was April 10 2024.
Last time AEW drew a 750k was April 17 2024.
April 11 was the airing of the Punk-Perry footage. That's when I stopped watching too.
>Last time AEW drew a milly was February 22 2023.
What was it like here when no milly turned 1 year old?
oh dear
pretty sure their last milly was only due to jay brisco's death and that being the memorial show.
the streak would be even longer without it lol
Even redditors were circlejerking over the Bucks being ratings poison but they clearly had a positive effect on this show. The random "banger" match with no build was the biggest drop. Not counting the Rampage drop off that is.
>but they clearly had a positive effect on this show
them showing up at the end of the show to attack a returning Kenny had no effect, unless you think a small increase in le demo means anything. And the opening quarter always does higher, you can't attribute that to anyone.
>them showing up at the end of the show to attack a returning Kenny had no effect
It held the entire quarter you coping b***h.
>holding the quarter is the standard now
>raising and maintaining your audience for half an hour is bad now
>Copeland tanks the ratings
>Orange homosexual tanks the ratings
>Jericho gains viewers in both quarters he's in despite AEW fans claiming to hate him
>Claudio tanked the ratings
>Omemega's big return and the big injury angle did nothing
it's over
>le yummy pedomega vs okama 8 starinos tease didn't do anything
KWAB
oshartga was never and will never be a draw
KEK. King switchy the channel
Why the frick can’t he ever draw? Nujamals have been lying to us about him since forever
What a white hot main event!
why did aew lose like 200k viewers permanently in the last 5 months without being a console warrior
Haven’t been paying attention the past few months?
kwab
>Yes Millie!
it's a shame that AEWcels hate millys cause they have sex and they don't
Damn, over 100k people changed the channel during a Young Bucks promo. It's sad Tony had to double down on pushing those nerds. They are demonstrably driving fans away.
Lol it's funny how much they've devalued the Rampage brand
Interesting quarters indeed.
Joshipedos managed to slide the other ratings thread eh?
Kek even with no ads the shear name of Rampage turns off 200k people
keep booking for Meltzer stars, and you keep getting no milly's
Awful numbers!
I thought even Tony couldn't cool off big bazinga dimes Sheldon but he's managed it. it's truly over
by looking at those rating, its time to move main event to the first position in the card
>1 week after putting Tony Khan in a neckbrace
>Neckbrace angle gets advertised on the NFL draft
>Elite gain 70k
Come on man
Jericho is a draw
Serious non-console war question: why does nobody like Jay White
>he's booked like shit
He has been tanking the ratings literally since day 1. I don't think AEW ever had a roster member that would crater this hard. Obviously people don't like him. Why?
Damn I thought Kennys segment would be over 800k
>Bucks cause 200k people to change the channel
Holy fricking shit lol
it's almost impressive how dimes repellent they are
>*draws the house*
sheesh
>sub 400k at end
holy shit
>people tune in to see shibata, okada, and omega
>they tune out everything else
grim
No sliding
Indies talents gets you indie ratings what a shocker
bump
Surefire sign of a dimeless thread
People still won't watch your flippy troonery
no slidey
KWAPC
Indeed