Gatekeeping Techniques

Do you guys gatekeep certain techniques or strategies that work for you from your club?

Example, I have this document on grip-fighting (Judo) that allows me to dominate everyone in this aspect. Not sure if I should share it or not.

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    No that’s moronic

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      How so? I'm genuinely curious about your arguments

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        not him but not sharing all of the info you have (if it is relevant to the techniques you are doing) just means you end up with worse partners. This means that you don't find the holes in your game faster, meaning you wont think about those holes and fix them and practice them until they are no longer holes. Holding stuff back means you win but dont actually get better. Its why rolling with a skilled upper belt is always better (once you reach a certain skill level) than rolling with a fresh white belt, because you always end up crushing the white belt but never learning anything.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Big fish small pond, etc etc etc

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        no. Im at the club to get objectively good at grappling so i can defend myself if I need to, not to feel good about myself for being some top alpha in a small pond.

        the better my teammates are the better sparring partners i have and the better feedback I will get on drills and spars.
        if they get better than me they can teach me cool shit without me having to look for it or develop it myself.

        Your future nemesis wont care that youre the top guy in a gym full of shitters, he only cares about how objectively good you are at fighting, even if youre at the bottom rank of a top level gym

        You dont have to teach everyone everything because you could be wrong, but if someone is genuinely struggling or is breaking an important principle you should offer some hints here and there.

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I know some... BUT IM NOT TELLING YOU TEHEHEHHE >:)

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    These days, knowledge gate keeps itself. The amount of instruction available that's either overtly free, or obtained as such, means it's entirely your own stupid fault that you haven't found a way to enhance anything.

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are no secrets. These days the real gatekept stuff is good coaching rather than details. I can tell you every detail of something, and it doesn't fricking matter unless you have someone ready to yell at you until you incorporate the details correctly.

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    you should share it because the "grip fighting" guy at my gym is really overzealous and infodumps so much it all becomes incomprehensible, like hey can you show me gripping? and then he gives 4 different gripping sequences meaning you don't even learn one at the end of it
    and in addition to that he's a nit picker and likes to do things at full intensity so your fingers just get absolutely fricked working with him

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    No because I want to improve. By actively hiding certain techniques you become reliant on them in order to win, and I refuse to be reliant on some secret move. Also, just because someone knows of a technique doesn't meant they'll be able to recognize its use in different positions. I will always explain a technique the other person in my gym is unfamiliar with because it makes both of us better.

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    i hide my techniques because i'm only a blue belt and i prefer to leave the upper belts thinking im lucky or something, everytime i showed a detail that allowed me to do something i got dismissed

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I guarantee all those upper belts know exactly what you’re doing and don’t need you condescending to them.

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have a grab called the Ninjago but I don't talk about it

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gonna rock the town, without being seen?

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Teach them the counters->a rising tide raises all boats effect->more technical, better partners for you to use to get jiujitsu working instead of JUST a bunch of tough untechnical guys->more fun

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nice schizopost

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you're at a competition and show people your techniques it'd obviously be dumb but the schizo poster is correct, if you don't share it with your team you'll never have it countered so you learn the next step, or have them do it to you so you can practice countering it against others. It hurts you in the long run if you don't at least show your training partners when they ask.

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    the age of secret techniques is over, its all in the open there's hundred or thousands of tutorials on everything

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      The real "secrets" are the application of drills, exercises, equipment etc to the student. That's where the real work is being done. And a lot of that is being just as openly, often to the disbelief of people who dislike any particular coach/trainer/style that said person is doing what they say they're doing.

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I have this document on grip-fighting (Judo) that allows me to dominate everyone in this aspect. Not sure if I should share it or not.
    post it

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    More often than not when I share a genuine piece of experienced based information some nofights will tell me how I'm wrong. So not gatekeepeing but pearls before swine and all that

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      That often happens with something fairly simple too. Like some disengagement that you don't see much because it doesn't score points, or feint gaming, etc.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah it's the peak of Mt. Stupid meme.

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The opposite. I was so open with everything I know that my gymmates would ask me for advice instead of our coach. He even confronted me about it, and I'm like well shit man they ask me questions and I answer them, tf you want me to do?

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Actually it's the opposite for me. My club gatekeeps techniques from us and I learn the real techniques by watching Youtube.
    Then I start using the real techniques in class and the instructor is like wtf.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like your instructor is running a Cult McDojo, fist to his nuts sounds appropriate.

  15. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    No because I want everyone there and myself to give a good fight

  16. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >gatekeep ... from your club
    Absolutely dishonorabu. No wonder the west has fallen.

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