they dont train purring kicks and takedowns though, they are more like london prize ring and even them from the videos ive seen they dont seem to like clinching
Do this if you want to get your nose or neck bitten lol pikeys don't fight, they throw some punches, grapple until they fall over/get broken up and the one losing normally goes for a bite or a groin punch. If OP actually wants to learn "pugilism" techniques there's books, PDFs everywhere online and EnglishMartialArts on youtube has covered some old English Pugilists and their techniques.
Yes it's a hate crime in many jurisdictions since they are a recognised minority ethnicity separate to the settled Irish having broken off a thousand years ago genetically. So it's in violation of blue board rules.
Pikeys just do modern boxing without gloves. If you want a relatively modern style similar to pugilism, watch early 20th century boxers (pre WW2) on YT.
That isn't even remotely true.
It is basically a different style due to how different almost everything is in classic pugilism.
Seriously read a book on the subject, it is pretty interesting.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>"That isn't even remotely true"
a power jab is a lead straight with more buildup and horizontal fist which the lead straight itself is very similar to the jab used by modern bare knuckle boxers
liver shots are literally just shovel hooks
the modern jab and cross also were used extensively
the overhand is exactly the same
the up jab is exactly the same
parrying is the same
Tysons peekaboo stance was essentially already used by Daniel Mendoza
the footwork is identical to any martial art including boxing
what exactly is different? i don't see any difference aside from more options to strike, grapple and slight differences in how the strikes are used. also if you are willing send me those books you are referring too i want to learn more
2 years ago
Anonymous
Litterally every word of that was wrong.
I think you are just trolling because there is no way you aren't intentionally doing that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>"YOURE WRONG!!!" >"WHY?... YOU JUST ARE OK!!!"
2 years ago
Anonymous
Pugilism >has no jab, only the left straight >uses vertical fist instead of horizontal fist >has no hooks, only swings/haymakers >generally a longer range style, there is little infighting because at that range, you wrestle >has different footwork than modern boxing (flat footed) >has different targetting zones due to rules (eg. kidney punches and rabbit punches were legal) >has emphasis on head movement and parrying instead of blocking >concentrates on power instead of speed
That's for starters. The training methods were also very different, most of the cliche boxing methods like rope skipping appeared in the 20th century.
It's a different art than modern boxing, similar but not the same.
2 years ago
Anonymous
shovel hooks are the same thing as a liver shot and kidney hooks were used all the time, all be it, they also did hammer fists into the kidneys with the same set up. they also had casting hooks, the same kind that the sambo gays use which they got from russian pugilism anyway
and yes they would definitlly infight it was practically identical to modern muay thai without the knees and more striking(rabbit punch, fibbing, hammer fists, locking for fibbing and even hooks)
also the "left straight" is the lead straight and it is identical to the power jab without the build up, its literally a jab with a dropstep, vertical fist and more turning the body for power
Why?
looks cool and i want to see how it can add to my muay thai game as the ruleset seems simmilar aside from the takedowns.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sounds like Dan Inosanto's JKD (i.e. JKD with FMP/Kali/Arnis). It has all that stuff. If you cross-trained enough striking arts (boxing, Muay Thai, K1/Dutch Kickboxing, JKD, Arnis) you probably wouldn't be missing any techniques from puglism.
> most of the modern boxing techniques are slight variations or straight identical to pugilism, stop sperging homosexuals
That’s why I said “train normal boxing and stop being autistic.” There’s no shot you’ll get the same quality of training studying at some niche school then you will at a modern competitive gym and quite frankly the techniques aren’t all that different, so just train the thing that’s actually available. If you want to study weird pugilism mabuals from the 1800s on your own more power to you but you probably won’t have a clue what you’re reading if you don’t have some base boxing experience first.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sounds like you took too many hits to the head, brainlet.
Fight Irish Travellers/Pikeys. They never stopped bareknuckle boxing. They'll fight you though they won't train you.
A mate fights them occasionally when he is short of money. He has a background in boxing and kickboxing from legit martial arts schools.
they dont train purring kicks and takedowns though, they are more like london prize ring and even them from the videos ive seen they dont seem to like clinching
Do this if you want to get your nose or neck bitten lol pikeys don't fight, they throw some punches, grapple until they fall over/get broken up and the one losing normally goes for a bite or a groin punch. If OP actually wants to learn "pugilism" techniques there's books, PDFs everywhere online and EnglishMartialArts on youtube has covered some old English Pugilists and their techniques.
You act like there isn't tons of video showing you are not only wrong but just being a bigot and ignorant.
>bigoted against pikeys
problem?
Yes it's a hate crime in many jurisdictions since they are a recognised minority ethnicity separate to the settled Irish having broken off a thousand years ago genetically. So it's in violation of blue board rules.
>oi laddey hav yew got a leisence for da' word?
Pikeys just do modern boxing without gloves. If you want a relatively modern style similar to pugilism, watch early 20th century boxers (pre WW2) on YT.
Train normal boxing and stop being autistic
>Train normal boxing and stop being autistic
this
OPs larp gets his nose caved in by every semidecent boxer
most of the modern boxing techniques are slight variations or straight identical to pugilism, stop sperging homosexuals
That isn't even remotely true.
It is basically a different style due to how different almost everything is in classic pugilism.
Seriously read a book on the subject, it is pretty interesting.
>"That isn't even remotely true"
a power jab is a lead straight with more buildup and horizontal fist which the lead straight itself is very similar to the jab used by modern bare knuckle boxers
liver shots are literally just shovel hooks
the modern jab and cross also were used extensively
the overhand is exactly the same
the up jab is exactly the same
parrying is the same
Tysons peekaboo stance was essentially already used by Daniel Mendoza
the footwork is identical to any martial art including boxing
what exactly is different? i don't see any difference aside from more options to strike, grapple and slight differences in how the strikes are used. also if you are willing send me those books you are referring too i want to learn more
Litterally every word of that was wrong.
I think you are just trolling because there is no way you aren't intentionally doing that.
>"YOURE WRONG!!!"
>"WHY?... YOU JUST ARE OK!!!"
Pugilism
>has no jab, only the left straight
>uses vertical fist instead of horizontal fist
>has no hooks, only swings/haymakers
>generally a longer range style, there is little infighting because at that range, you wrestle
>has different footwork than modern boxing (flat footed)
>has different targetting zones due to rules (eg. kidney punches and rabbit punches were legal)
>has emphasis on head movement and parrying instead of blocking
>concentrates on power instead of speed
That's for starters. The training methods were also very different, most of the cliche boxing methods like rope skipping appeared in the 20th century.
It's a different art than modern boxing, similar but not the same.
shovel hooks are the same thing as a liver shot and kidney hooks were used all the time, all be it, they also did hammer fists into the kidneys with the same set up. they also had casting hooks, the same kind that the sambo gays use which they got from russian pugilism anyway
and yes they would definitlly infight it was practically identical to modern muay thai without the knees and more striking(rabbit punch, fibbing, hammer fists, locking for fibbing and even hooks)
also the "left straight" is the lead straight and it is identical to the power jab without the build up, its literally a jab with a dropstep, vertical fist and more turning the body for power
looks cool and i want to see how it can add to my muay thai game as the ruleset seems simmilar aside from the takedowns.
Sounds like Dan Inosanto's JKD (i.e. JKD with FMP/Kali/Arnis). It has all that stuff. If you cross-trained enough striking arts (boxing, Muay Thai, K1/Dutch Kickboxing, JKD, Arnis) you probably wouldn't be missing any techniques from puglism.
> most of the modern boxing techniques are slight variations or straight identical to pugilism, stop sperging homosexuals
That’s why I said “train normal boxing and stop being autistic.” There’s no shot you’ll get the same quality of training studying at some niche school then you will at a modern competitive gym and quite frankly the techniques aren’t all that different, so just train the thing that’s actually available. If you want to study weird pugilism mabuals from the 1800s on your own more power to you but you probably won’t have a clue what you’re reading if you don’t have some base boxing experience first.
Sounds like you took too many hits to the head, brainlet.
Sounds like you don’t train, homosexual
Sounds like you take it in the ass buddy.
If you didn't grow up in the hood or streets i'd probably say find a pikey site. Diki chavimusti i want ye pikie spirit, i fight ye for it
Why?