Arnis/Kali/Eskrima all the same thing. Bout the only style I trust for weapons training. Human weapon did an episode on it once. Frickers be shank happy over there. Strict gun control but still lots of lawlessness so everyone carries some kind of knife or machete.
I keep wondering when a bigger competition scene is gonna pop up in the west. I know everyone's opinion of them is necessarily high, but the Dog Brothers are as close as it ever got.
Not to be a downer but I think thats as good as it may get unless some modified style comes along. Its just too violent for delicate american sensibilities, fricking hypocrits. Trouble is Arnis isn't as rigid as fencing/kendo. You're going to be getting hit everywhere. I can't imagine an adequate protective measure that wouldn't interfere too much.
It's more of it's nearly impossible to score objectively and isn't comprehensible to a general audience as a spectator sport.
Have you actually seen footage of eskrima stick fights?
It's not that it's "too violent". It's that the sticks are so light that people flail at each other like they both activated flurry of blows and action surge at the same time with very little successful defense especially if they are armored.
And because the sticks are doing nothing it then becomes a grappling match within a second or two.
Shit does not make for compelling viewing once the novelty wears off, and I am not so sure about the usefulness as a training method as the eskrima sticks don't really translate to real world weapon fighting.
Not to be a downer but I think thats as good as it may get unless some modified style comes along. Its just too violent for delicate american sensibilities, fricking hypocrits. Trouble is Arnis isn't as rigid as fencing/kendo. You're going to be getting hit everywhere. I can't imagine an adequate protective measure that wouldn't interfere too much.
I suspect the majority of fighters who would otherwise have the time and interest to get involved are taking part in established foam, rattan, and steel combat sports like Dagorhir, SCA heavy weapons, and Armored Combat League.
Apache knife fighting knife fighting is surprisingly legit due to it's simplicity and extremely straight forward training methodology.
It's basically >here are some basic moves >here is a little history and culture >now spend the whole weekend sparing with training knives until you get the hang of it >repeat as often as you can get a few guys and some training knives together
Training is like 80% sparing.
You are going to get stabbed in a knife fight. Doesn’t matter what you do.
My coaches friend got jumped guy a guy with a knife once. Even though he “won” the fight, his hand was completely destroyed.
As far as survival goes, all the usual things apply. The biggest thing is being able to see it coming. A knife is most often a surprise weapon, being kept concealed until just before you’re going to get stabbed. If you think someone has a knife, run.
You could also buy a sword or a ringmesh shirt. Personally, I walk around in full plate armor. No mere knifeman would dare challenge me.
>You could also buy a sword or a ringmesh shirt. Personally, I walk around in full plate armor. No mere knifeman would dare challenge me.
Unfortunately because of how shitty this board is, I can't tell if you're joking.
yes there is no way to avoid damage in a knife attack, unless one has armor covering their forearm which is unlikely. so no way to stop slashes.
It's best to let the stabber go first and bet on catching them, or them fricking up, that is the only way you come out alive in a knife fight.
honing boxing skills, cardio and the abovementioned sports should help but it's always a gamble.
>there is no way to avoid damage in a knife attack
You're right, its a gamble, and getting hurt in a conflict is likely, but it is possible to get through without a scratch, just unlikely.
It probably started as the same kind of yapping off you see in a normal street fight, hoping the other backs off. One pulls out a knife and starts threatening the other, expecting him to back off. Then the other guy also pulls out a knife, and calls the other guy a pussy unwilling to fight with knife, hoping he’ll back off. Next thing you know their desire to scare the other into submission and “win” by standing their ground ends with the two of them exchanging blows, one of which evidently ended in a thrust to either the heart or subclavian artery which killed one of them quick. The legal system will kill the other.
All in all, this is similar to the way a tremendous amount of duels in both Europe and Asia went down. Two morons fighting each other over a petty dispute that neither of them wanted to conduct but were convinced they had to do in order to be not seen as a pussy. Hell, if you read hagakure the author describes a duel where two samurai met, determined that their dispute was not actually worth fighting over, but realized that they’d look like b***hes if they didn’t fight so instead one died in the field and the other committed suicide after. Some shit doesn’t change I
Guess, but seeing how poverty gays kill each other over petty bullshit takes a lot of the romanticism out of the history of dueling.
Normal people don't have shield walls, riot armor, gas, batons, and rubber bullets. Regular police absolutely worry about knives. The Germans have special anti-knife cops who wear chainmail when responding to riots and ill-behaved hadjis:
https://archive.is/3PFxB
>ill-behaved
any man who uses force (cops, military) to protect the PRO-CONDON germ*n state is worse than the worst of anti-birth-control knifemaster salafist
You're a teenage neet who has no idea how much they worry about that shit. Many brands of bullet proof vests are lined with steel wire mesh to stop knives.
yes there is no way to avoid damage in a knife attack, unless one has armor covering their forearm which is unlikely. so no way to stop slashes.
It's best to let the stabber go first and bet on catching them, or them fricking up, that is the only way you come out alive in a knife fight.
honing boxing skills, cardio and the abovementioned sports should help but it's always a gamble.
>You could also buy a sword or a ringmesh shirt. Personally, I walk around in full plate armor. No mere knifeman would dare challenge me.
Unfortunately because of how shitty this board is, I can't tell if you're joking.
[...] >there is no way to avoid damage in a knife attack
You're right, its a gamble, and getting hurt in a conflict is likely, but it is possible to get through without a scratch, just unlikely.
Hypothetically I think your best option (besides being armed) would to just unload with a few low roundhouses or a quad stomp. This has literally ended all but a few fights on da street for me
Should I take up serious knife-fighting "classes" if I MAY eventually go to prison? (for offing chomos). I would try to hire an ex- special forces cop ,or whatever.
Both learning to use a shank against another shank user, and defending bare-handed against shank attacker.
>I would try to hire an ex- special forces cop ,or whatever
Why are people under the impression that these types of people have any significant knowledge or experience about knife fighting? If anything they may have been taught sentry removal techniques but that’s not what you need and is exceptionally easy if you’re in a situation where you have a knife, they don’t, and have the jump on them. If anything you should be asking people with experience as corrections officers and actual prisoners. On the outside you should also be getting really good at standup grappling since that more than anything is probably going to save your life.
While you're certainly correct about your initial, the average CO is dumber than the average inmate, and has probably been in less fights. Cell entry teams, high risk facility, sure. But that's far from most.
>Cell entry teams, high risk facility
Without looking into it, that sounds like a cool job. What's that niche like?
10 months ago
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Sort of a less casually deadly door kicking that military and fed types do. Breach cell, restrain, drag out. Probably more likely to get shit thrown at you, aids needles stabbed, or something else equally disgusting than those two, but at least you're not getting blown up. Stress can be a lot different, because you're more likely to have interaction history with an inmate than you are Baghdad Billy or Meth Making Mike.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Cell entry teams, high risk facility
Without looking into it, that sounds like a cool job. What's that niche like?
Never underestimate prison tech
10 months ago
Anonymous
dang, tiny image
10 months ago
Anonymous
>wanting to go to a prison everyday voluntarily
I will never understand people who do those jobs.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I love bad girls. I'm a guy.
I would be willing to work in a women's prison but never in a mens, lol. same reason why women become cops.
As for the other non-sexual crowd, seriously no comprehensible reason to sign up for such a job other than low IQ
10 months ago
Anonymous
Sounds like working at a women's prison would be a good way to get yourself locked up in a men's prison.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, but usually not just for getting caught fricking them. Dumb COs who stick their dick in caged pussy also get themselves involved in trafficing contraband, by passing communication barriers, or otherwise fricking up royally. Just being busted for sex is usually a firing with no pension, at worst.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>that sounds like a cool job
You think getting bloody aids shit thrown at you then wrestling a naked mentally ill aids filled ball of muscle having a psychotic episode and covered in self inflicted cuts and their own shit sounds cool?
It's not.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I used to be an EMT, I used to wrestle, and I used to be a bouncer. You're making it sound like all three of these together, which sounds cool.
10 months ago
Anonymous
wait CAN aids be transmitted trough shit?
and doesn aids make you a hunchback skeleton? can an aids-ridden homosexual be a ball of muscle?
10 months ago
Anonymous
>wait CAN aids be transmitted trough shit?
It can if that shit is tainted with the blood of a sodomite's torn rectum. >and doesn aids make you a hunchback skeleton?
Over time, yes. >can an aids-ridden homosexual be a ball of muscle?
Yes, for a time.
10 months ago
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>and doesn aids make you a hunchback skeleton? can an aids-ridden homosexual be a ball of muscle?
Also worth mentioning that an HIV-positive person may not have AIDS yet but can give it to you.
Had a cop/security with a side handle baton in the crowd that stayed back the whole time.
If it was security then it makes sense why they didn't get involved.
If you have a sturdy belt, and can take it out quickly enough, try to use it as a whip to hit the knife Black person in the eyes or face or even the hand with the knife >and then run away, the belt shit is just to damage him and gain time
if you have your housekeys on a long chain, in your pocket, you can very quickly swing it like a morning star against an attacker, But if you miss the first hit, you should turn and runnnnnn
people learn and develop through imitation, nothing is original
10 months ago
Anonymous
NPC cope
10 months ago
Anonymous
You can analyze ideas from YouTubers to assimilate the good ones into your own thoughts and arguments but lazily deferring your text and image board argument to some guy on another website who rambles on in a video for a third of an hour is moronic.
somewhere on /misc/ I think, some serb/polack/russian subhuman is having sex with a fat whale woman and her husband or someone busts into the room and starts stabbing. He is unable to stab the sex-haver as he keeps kicking away at him.
mind you the sex-having homewrecker dude is backed to a fricking corner and death should have been certain.
he DOES GET STABBED but 3 kicks to hold back the stabhappy jealous/cuck bf/husband and he's OUTTA THERE.
If you have a sturdy belt, and can take it out quickly enough, try to use it as a whip to hit the knife Black person in the eyes or face or even the hand with the knife >and then run away, the belt shit is just to damage him and gain time
this
[...] if you have your housekeys on a long chain, in your pocket, you can very quickly swing it like a morning star against an attacker, But if you miss the first hit, you should turn and runnnnnn
This is moron shit, you’re not going to have time to take off your fricking belt while someone is trying to stab you and swinging your keys “like a morning star” is far less effective than taking a single key and shoving it in their fricking eye. Regardless, the best thing you can do in a knife attack is get control of their weapon arm so that they are unable to stab you. Learn to grapple, homosexuals
>https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Dmitry_Dyomushkin
it seems OP's pic is a nationalist militant from russia doing knife practice
i think he showcased skills of knife in the reggie yates (or something, the annoying black guy with big glasses) episode on russian neonazis
>look up info >he hosted a "full contact knife fighting tournament" >its an MMA match with a sturdy prop knife, like Dog Brothers >I thought it was a real bladed knife fight held in some abandoned military base
i feel like a moron
Arnis/Kali/Eskrima all the same thing. Bout the only style I trust for weapons training. Human weapon did an episode on it once. Frickers be shank happy over there. Strict gun control but still lots of lawlessness so everyone carries some kind of knife or machete.
I keep wondering when a bigger competition scene is gonna pop up in the west. I know everyone's opinion of them is necessarily high, but the Dog Brothers are as close as it ever got.
*isn't
Not to be a downer but I think thats as good as it may get unless some modified style comes along. Its just too violent for delicate american sensibilities, fricking hypocrits. Trouble is Arnis isn't as rigid as fencing/kendo. You're going to be getting hit everywhere. I can't imagine an adequate protective measure that wouldn't interfere too much.
It's more of it's nearly impossible to score objectively and isn't comprehensible to a general audience as a spectator sport.
Have you actually seen footage of eskrima stick fights?
It's not that it's "too violent". It's that the sticks are so light that people flail at each other like they both activated flurry of blows and action surge at the same time with very little successful defense especially if they are armored.
And because the sticks are doing nothing it then becomes a grappling match within a second or two.
Shit does not make for compelling viewing once the novelty wears off, and I am not so sure about the usefulness as a training method as the eskrima sticks don't really translate to real world weapon fighting.
I suspect the majority of fighters who would otherwise have the time and interest to get involved are taking part in established foam, rattan, and steel combat sports like Dagorhir, SCA heavy weapons, and Armored Combat League.
Frick off back to your heem thread.
Apache knife fighting knife fighting is surprisingly legit due to it's simplicity and extremely straight forward training methodology.
It's basically
>here are some basic moves
>here is a little history and culture
>now spend the whole weekend sparing with training knives until you get the hang of it
>repeat as often as you can get a few guys and some training knives together
Training is like 80% sparing.
You are going to get stabbed in a knife fight. Doesn’t matter what you do.
My coaches friend got jumped guy a guy with a knife once. Even though he “won” the fight, his hand was completely destroyed.
As far as survival goes, all the usual things apply. The biggest thing is being able to see it coming. A knife is most often a surprise weapon, being kept concealed until just before you’re going to get stabbed. If you think someone has a knife, run.
You could also buy a sword or a ringmesh shirt. Personally, I walk around in full plate armor. No mere knifeman would dare challenge me.
yes there is no way to avoid damage in a knife attack, unless one has armor covering their forearm which is unlikely. so no way to stop slashes.
It's best to let the stabber go first and bet on catching them, or them fricking up, that is the only way you come out alive in a knife fight.
honing boxing skills, cardio and the abovementioned sports should help but it's always a gamble.
>Best to let the stabber go first
b***h it's a fricking knife, run away, throw your shit at them, shoot them, but get away from the knife
>You could also buy a sword or a ringmesh shirt. Personally, I walk around in full plate armor. No mere knifeman would dare challenge me.
Unfortunately because of how shitty this board is, I can't tell if you're joking.
>there is no way to avoid damage in a knife attack
You're right, its a gamble, and getting hurt in a conflict is likely, but it is possible to get through without a scratch, just unlikely.
>You are going to get stabbed in a knife fight. Doesn’t matter what you do.
>yes there is no way to avoid damage in a knife attack
nice memes
Wtf is this an organized fight ???
looking at the subhuman audience, more likely. based.
think of all the centuries and centuries of samurai and swordfighting videos that we'll never get to see because camera wasn't invented.
It probably started as the same kind of yapping off you see in a normal street fight, hoping the other backs off. One pulls out a knife and starts threatening the other, expecting him to back off. Then the other guy also pulls out a knife, and calls the other guy a pussy unwilling to fight with knife, hoping he’ll back off. Next thing you know their desire to scare the other into submission and “win” by standing their ground ends with the two of them exchanging blows, one of which evidently ended in a thrust to either the heart or subclavian artery which killed one of them quick. The legal system will kill the other.
All in all, this is similar to the way a tremendous amount of duels in both Europe and Asia went down. Two morons fighting each other over a petty dispute that neither of them wanted to conduct but were convinced they had to do in order to be not seen as a pussy. Hell, if you read hagakure the author describes a duel where two samurai met, determined that their dispute was not actually worth fighting over, but realized that they’d look like b***hes if they didn’t fight so instead one died in the field and the other committed suicide after. Some shit doesn’t change I
Guess, but seeing how poverty gays kill each other over petty bullshit takes a lot of the romanticism out of the history of dueling.
looks like he brought a screwdriver to a knife fight
bro is holding that knife like a fricking hammer the frick
Weird that riot cops never worry about this but somehow it's a huge issue for teenage neets
Normal people don't have shield walls, riot armor, gas, batons, and rubber bullets. Regular police absolutely worry about knives. The Germans have special anti-knife cops who wear chainmail when responding to riots and ill-behaved hadjis:
https://archive.is/3PFxB
Guess they brought the wall down too soon
>ill-behaved
any man who uses force (cops, military) to protect the PRO-CONDON germ*n state is worse than the worst of anti-birth-control knifemaster salafist
You're a teenage neet who has no idea how much they worry about that shit. Many brands of bullet proof vests are lined with steel wire mesh to stop knives.
Police training documentary "Surviving Edged Weapons" (1988):
two tl;dw versions:
thanks a lot man I'm fricking scared now I already dont go outside but I used to trust people and
thanks a lot pal
Part and parcel m8
Hypothetically I think your best option (besides being armed) would to just unload with a few low roundhouses or a quad stomp. This has literally ended all but a few fights on da street for me
good ol side kick to the knee is one of the best
Seriously why wouldn't you just low kick and run way away if you have to
Meme shit that will get you dead
Cops have guns, armor, and backup.
Only thing they really have to do is stay situationally aware and they have all they need to win with ease.
Should I take up serious knife-fighting "classes" if I MAY eventually go to prison? (for offing chomos). I would try to hire an ex- special forces cop ,or whatever.
Both learning to use a shank against another shank user, and defending bare-handed against shank attacker.
>I would try to hire an ex- special forces cop ,or whatever
Why are people under the impression that these types of people have any significant knowledge or experience about knife fighting? If anything they may have been taught sentry removal techniques but that’s not what you need and is exceptionally easy if you’re in a situation where you have a knife, they don’t, and have the jump on them. If anything you should be asking people with experience as corrections officers and actual prisoners. On the outside you should also be getting really good at standup grappling since that more than anything is probably going to save your life.
While you're certainly correct about your initial, the average CO is dumber than the average inmate, and has probably been in less fights. Cell entry teams, high risk facility, sure. But that's far from most.
>Cell entry teams, high risk facility
Without looking into it, that sounds like a cool job. What's that niche like?
Sort of a less casually deadly door kicking that military and fed types do. Breach cell, restrain, drag out. Probably more likely to get shit thrown at you, aids needles stabbed, or something else equally disgusting than those two, but at least you're not getting blown up. Stress can be a lot different, because you're more likely to have interaction history with an inmate than you are Baghdad Billy or Meth Making Mike.
Never underestimate prison tech
dang, tiny image
>wanting to go to a prison everyday voluntarily
I will never understand people who do those jobs.
I love bad girls. I'm a guy.
I would be willing to work in a women's prison but never in a mens, lol. same reason why women become cops.
As for the other non-sexual crowd, seriously no comprehensible reason to sign up for such a job other than low IQ
Sounds like working at a women's prison would be a good way to get yourself locked up in a men's prison.
Yes, but usually not just for getting caught fricking them. Dumb COs who stick their dick in caged pussy also get themselves involved in trafficing contraband, by passing communication barriers, or otherwise fricking up royally. Just being busted for sex is usually a firing with no pension, at worst.
>that sounds like a cool job
You think getting bloody aids shit thrown at you then wrestling a naked mentally ill aids filled ball of muscle having a psychotic episode and covered in self inflicted cuts and their own shit sounds cool?
It's not.
I used to be an EMT, I used to wrestle, and I used to be a bouncer. You're making it sound like all three of these together, which sounds cool.
wait CAN aids be transmitted trough shit?
and doesn aids make you a hunchback skeleton? can an aids-ridden homosexual be a ball of muscle?
>wait CAN aids be transmitted trough shit?
It can if that shit is tainted with the blood of a sodomite's torn rectum.
>and doesn aids make you a hunchback skeleton?
Over time, yes.
>can an aids-ridden homosexual be a ball of muscle?
Yes, for a time.
>and doesn aids make you a hunchback skeleton? can an aids-ridden homosexual be a ball of muscle?
Also worth mentioning that an HIV-positive person may not have AIDS yet but can give it to you.
Had a cop/security with a side handle baton in the crowd that stayed back the whole time.
If it was security then it makes sense why they didn't get involved.
>what kind of extreme sport would best condition you to survive a stabbing attempt ?
Track and field (sprinting)
this
if you have your housekeys on a long chain, in your pocket, you can very quickly swing it like a morning star against an attacker, But if you miss the first hit, you should turn and runnnnnn
it's a demo and I can't attest to its efficacy, but it sure seems like it'd work just fine.
>dude just go into stabbing range and try to grab his hand
Typical self defence against a mannequin. Better listen to him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_6EPKltO04
try to come up with your own opinions instead of taking them from youtubers
people learn and develop through imitation, nothing is original
NPC cope
You can analyze ideas from YouTubers to assimilate the good ones into your own thoughts and arguments but lazily deferring your text and image board argument to some guy on another website who rambles on in a video for a third of an hour is moronic.
Proper knife fighting in not something I can learn by myself
Another real knife duel
Other example:
https://youtube.com/shorts/CzXx0F-zfAY?feature=share
So, if someone is knife charging should i jsut go for a kick?
I doubt i outrange with my arm vs their arm + knife
I have seen this in a literal webm.
somewhere on /misc/ I think, some serb/polack/russian subhuman is having sex with a fat whale woman and her husband or someone busts into the room and starts stabbing. He is unable to stab the sex-haver as he keeps kicking away at him.
mind you the sex-having homewrecker dude is backed to a fricking corner and death should have been certain.
he DOES GET STABBED but 3 kicks to hold back the stabhappy jealous/cuck bf/husband and he's OUTTA THERE.
Kino webm but i forgot to save it.
If you have a sturdy belt, and can take it out quickly enough, try to use it as a whip to hit the knife Black person in the eyes or face or even the hand with the knife
>and then run away, the belt shit is just to damage him and gain time
This is moron shit, you’re not going to have time to take off your fricking belt while someone is trying to stab you and swinging your keys “like a morning star” is far less effective than taking a single key and shoving it in their fricking eye. Regardless, the best thing you can do in a knife attack is get control of their weapon arm so that they are unable to stab you. Learn to grapple, homosexuals
>https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Dmitry_Dyomushkin
it seems OP's pic is a nationalist militant from russia doing knife practice
i think he showcased skills of knife in the reggie yates (or something, the annoying black guy with big glasses) episode on russian neonazis
>look up info
>he hosted a "full contact knife fighting tournament"
>its an MMA match with a sturdy prop knife, like Dog Brothers
>I thought it was a real bladed knife fight held in some abandoned military base
i feel like a moron