absolutely not.
Theory wins, but he wins just to lose to a baby face they automatically wanna push.
Roman would never lose to a commentator. He's pushed as a good heel, dude just needs a better gimmick.
Of course not but one day he will be. Super cape Cena was, Hulk was all eras top guys were. Only justified were Austin and rock who were legitimately talented and entertaining. They only stayed a while too so we never got bored of them. Everything went to shit after attitude era
it's because vince can only focus on one dude at a time, and thinks he can farm his drawing power for 10 years. a smarter man would have 3-4 top guys who move in and out of the that position so the fans don't grow actively hostile to the one guy and substantially more dimes can be drawn over a longer period of time. vince just has such a bizarre mix of high time preference and absolute commitment and has left entire fortunes on the table as a result
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah like link said ten years ago can't wait to see it get better when he goes away. But it might not
2 years ago
Anonymous
it's hard to sufficiently underscore how much of what most take for granted as "normal" in american wrestling is just vince mcmahon's personal tics
>Only justified were Austin and rock who were legitimately talented and entertaining.
Why is it that every time marks say they want new stars, they get b***hy when they actually start pushing new stars.
Everyone seems to have conveniently forgotten that Rock didn't start off popular either and had to work his ass off to get to where he is now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Obese (anti) smarks just like to complain about everything. When they're pushing new guys they're being overpushed, when they're pushing old guys there's no new stars
2 years ago
Anonymous
Or how about push people that fans want to see?
During Romans rocket strapped mega push, Fans were cheering for >Samoa Joe >Cesaro >Alister Black >Daniel Bryan >Rollins (as a face) >Ambrose
I could go on, but you get the idea.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Rollins got injured >Cesaro
ok mark
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Samoa Joe
Broken down fat old dude >Cesaro
Can't speak >Alister Black
Yeah well we've seen what he can do when given free reign in AEW >Daniel Bryan
True >Rollins
Never lost a singles match to Roman Reigns >Ambrose
True
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Anonymous
>Cesaro >Can't speak
IDK where this meme comes from. I get that he's not the most electrifying man in sports entertainment, but he's fairly eloquent and intelligent. He's a better promo than Roman by miles.
2 years ago
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>I’m at home when I’m inside these four ropes
2 years ago
Anonymous
I do not get the reference.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That wasn't as bad as people here say. Yes, it was bad, but there are worse promos all the time
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ambrose is an hardcore shitter, no way a mainstream conpany with sponsor would keep him long term
2 years ago
Anonymous
shut your pansy homosexual mouth
2 years ago
Anonymous
take your med schizo
2 years ago
Anonymous
Obese (anti) smarks just like to complain about everything. When they're pushing new guys they're being overpushed, when they're pushing old guys there's no new stars
Rock was better in fricking late 97 than Queery will ever be
2 years ago
Anonymous
>NUUUUUUUU ROCK WAS ALWAYS AMAZING, ATTITUDE ERA 4EVA.
But why? He does not shove his gay stuff onto other people.
Yes his character is a work in progress (Although I like the selfie bit) He is good in the ring and has a look that can be shaped properly
Am I moronic for thinking Riddle or Zayn were booked to win the match? I know booking doesn't matter to Vince but the last two months seem to have been built around one of them winning.
They have been building Theory since Survivor S.
Rhodes was supposed to win this, but then got injured.
It’s scary to think that Theory was supposed to win the rumble, but swapped with Rhodes due to the pec.
I dunno.
This just feels like Vince trying to prove several things >Homegrown WWE talent is better than indie talent >Younger (early 20's) is always better >Enjoys making smarks seethe when he puts his guys over the indie darlings everyone loves
Theory is more of a medium to give fans a "frick you".
Theory is like if Cena was Ruthless Aggression Cena all these years. He needs to figure out his shtick because a couple flippyshit spots and whatever a town down is ain’t it.
No, Roman was pushed pretty much from day one. A lot of people probably forget that this is Theory's second main roster run. He was first called up to replace Andrade in a tag match and stayed in Zelina's stable of Andrade and people who replaced Andrade when he was injured. Theory was eventually sent back to NXT, so nowhere near Roman's push.
dude, NO ONE will ever be as over pushed as Roman.
>Roman Is shoved down everyones throat for 5 straight years. Gets Booed mercilessly >WWE forces legends to tweet comments like "fans need to give roman a chance" >WWE forces Daniel Bryan (who was incredibly over)) to give roman a win at Fastlane 2015 for a title match oppertunity. Bryan shakes Romans hand in attempt to pass the torch. Roman is still heavily booed >WWE removes all anti-roman signs from live events. Shows are heavily edited to omit the booing and negative reactions, Anti-Roman Signs are digitally edited out >Roman is a multiple time World Champion, Royal Rumble Winner, has headlined several Wrestlemanias. Always gets booed despite being pushed as a face. >WWE allows Roman to swear multiple times to get over. Romans uses words like "bitch" and "ass" frequently on RAW. Brad Maddox is fired for saying "wienery pricks" in a non televised dark match. >WWE tries to have Roman steal the momentum from Dean Ambrose and D-Bry again. Dean is now referred to as Romans "Little Buddy". Everytime Roman teams with Ambrose, there is a formula that is followed. Ambrose controls the fan reaction, and Roman goes for the pin to capitlize on the cheering. This causes a wave of boos when Roman is tagged in creating a fascinating contrast in audience reception.
>con'd >Years later, WWE legends still tweet that fans are too harsh on Roman. Possibly being paid by WWE to say that. Indie wrestlers/Ex WWE wrestlers who want to go work for WWE praise Roman, in attempts that they will get noticed by scouting. >WWE recycles the Authority storyline that made Bryan popular in another attempt to get Roman over. It doesnt work. >WWE then allows Roman to strike the boss (Vince) in another desperate attempt to get the fans behind him. It still doesnt work. >WWE makes Roman win the title on RAW, where Main Event titles rarely change hands in attempt to get fans interested in Roman. It still doesnt work. >Roman defeats the undertaker in a match on Wrestlemania that is heavily panned. This now gives fans an excuse to boo. At this point, I have no idea what WWE is trying to do. >In a last ditch effort, WWE says Roman has cancer. Vince is literally praying to every Ethnic Deity and Abrahamic God that the storyline will make fans love Roman as much as he does. Still doesnt work. Fans cheer for Samoa Joe and other better wrestlers. >Roman miracously comes back, fans are still ambivalent, he eventually turns heel. He still sucks.
Sit down Zoomer super cape Cena was overbooked. Austin and rock weren't. Hulk was but he created two wrestling booms so that's ok with me brothers and that was when kayfabe was still alive
Cena was actually entertaining you moron, he knew how to talk and played the crowd. Yeah, the super cena era fricked over tons of talent, but at least you knew the guy had all the factors to be the "It" guy.
Roman has none of that, and due to his failed 5+ year push, more wrestlers were gimped to not outshine him.
>Cena was actually entertaining
Lol gotta love revisionism. No he wasn't. 5 moves of doom were a thing (still are) literally having the exact same match for 10 years. Roman is technically the better wrestler but he doesn't have the charisma, sticking him with heyman and turning him heel was a great idea, but they should have done this in 2014. Problem was Brock was white hot back then and they needed a believable face foil, no way Daniel Bryan would have been that guy.
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Anonymous
I think a Bryan and Brock feud could’ve been great actually, their match at that one Survivor Series was really good.
I loved the contrast between Brock laughing at Bryan at the start of the match and looking terrified of him post-match.
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Anonymous
> no way Daniel Bryan would have been that guy
Maybe if they didn’t book him as the guy who won a belt after his opponent just had the fight of his life and then lost it in five seconds.
The Roman Reigns "won't take no for an answer" face push that had him main event Wrestlemania 4 years in a row despite a large portion of the audience not liking it and the forced push being a major reason for 4 consecutive years of steep declines of RAW viewership is unmatched in company history, Not even John Cena was as shat upon with such steep viewership declines and pushing Hogan and Austin and The Rock made all the sense most of the time during their pushes because they were undeniably sky high over at their heights.
Theory...won a plastic briefcase. So did Baron Corbin and Damien Sandow. He will not get even a Cena tier push, much less a Roman tier push.
>con'd >Years later, WWE legends still tweet that fans are too harsh on Roman. Possibly being paid by WWE to say that. Indie wrestlers/Ex WWE wrestlers who want to go work for WWE praise Roman, in attempts that they will get noticed by scouting. >WWE recycles the Authority storyline that made Bryan popular in another attempt to get Roman over. It doesnt work. >WWE then allows Roman to strike the boss (Vince) in another desperate attempt to get the fans behind him. It still doesnt work. >WWE makes Roman win the title on RAW, where Main Event titles rarely change hands in attempt to get fans interested in Roman. It still doesnt work. >Roman defeats the undertaker in a match on Wrestlemania that is heavily panned. This now gives fans an excuse to boo. At this point, I have no idea what WWE is trying to do. >In a last ditch effort, WWE says Roman has cancer. Vince is literally praying to every Ethnic Deity and Abrahamic God that the storyline will make fans love Roman as much as he does. Still doesnt work. Fans cheer for Samoa Joe and other better wrestlers. >Roman miracously comes back, fans are still ambivalent, he eventually turns heel. He still sucks.
Hating Roman Reigns is a sign you haven't left puberty yet
>con'd >Years later, WWE legends still tweet that fans are too harsh on Roman. Possibly being paid by WWE to say that. Indie wrestlers/Ex WWE wrestlers who want to go work for WWE praise Roman, in attempts that they will get noticed by scouting. >WWE recycles the Authority storyline that made Bryan popular in another attempt to get Roman over. It doesnt work. >WWE then allows Roman to strike the boss (Vince) in another desperate attempt to get the fans behind him. It still doesnt work. >WWE makes Roman win the title on RAW, where Main Event titles rarely change hands in attempt to get fans interested in Roman. It still doesnt work. >Roman defeats the undertaker in a match on Wrestlemania that is heavily panned. This now gives fans an excuse to boo. At this point, I have no idea what WWE is trying to do. >In a last ditch effort, WWE says Roman has cancer. Vince is literally praying to every Ethnic Deity and Abrahamic God that the storyline will make fans love Roman as much as he does. Still doesnt work. Fans cheer for Samoa Joe and other better wrestlers. >Roman miracously comes back, fans are still ambivalent, he eventually turns heel. He still sucks.
100%, roman is the biggest failure in wrestling for how relentlessly he was pushed, he cut the companies audience and half and oversaw the birth of its first real competition in 20 years
What still surprises me about Roman's mega push was the WWE were forcing legends and other wrestlers to tweet "Give Roman a Chance".
The guy had headlined multiple wrestlemanias, and even had a whole Royal Rumble revolve around him. But goddamn, Vince was practically begging fans to love Roman. It's why I think the cancer angle was a work.
>Cena was actually entertaining
Lol gotta love revisionism. No he wasn't. 5 moves of doom were a thing (still are) literally having the exact same match for 10 years. Roman is technically the better wrestler but he doesn't have the charisma, sticking him with heyman and turning him heel was a great idea, but they should have done this in 2014. Problem was Brock was white hot back then and they needed a believable face foil, no way Daniel Bryan would have been that guy.
Yes he was. Even ECW ONS proved that hating Cena was more fun than cheering for RVD. You can hate the fact he buried a shit ton of people, even the Nexus, but still, Cena at least had the "It" factors to captivate an audience.
>It's why I think the cancer angle was a work.
I honestly don't know why this isn't more common. Wrestling is such a carny bussines that people will do anything for money, but yet people can't imagine someone faking cancer to clean their image, even if wrestlers and promoters in the past have done worse things than faking cancer. I'm not saying that I'm sure it was a work, but I definitely see a chance that was a work
I don't know if he will be overpushed or not, but even as goofy as he is, he has shown more charisma than Roman in his entire career, so it can't be worse.
The Rock got booed. Cena got booed. He’s a young guy with a good look that at least gets emotions. You can push Cesaro in his 40s who never drew a dime or give a shot to this idiot. I’d take the idiot. Stop being obese.
No
Lol no. Not even close. Vince at least knows to push Theory as a heel first.
Roman was pushed as a heel first too.
No, the moment he turned him face is when he overpushed him, in The Shield he was an uppermidcarder at most.
Thory might win his first world championship as a heel, wich is why they should've done with Roman
I mean when he went solo
not even close he just lost to bobby
absolutely not.
Theory wins, but he wins just to lose to a baby face they automatically wanna push.
Roman would never lose to a commentator. He's pushed as a good heel, dude just needs a better gimmick.
roman's gimmick is "gimmick that roman reigns should have had 5 years ago when anyone might have cared"
Reigns got pinned by Shane
yea after being raped by Drew
nah your VDS is
good morning sir
Idk why they're saying no but he and Vince, Cena, etc are building this guy up to be the next top guy. So yes just won't obviously be awhile
of course, anon, that's the point of pushing a young guy. But he is no where near Roman's overpushed bullshit.
Of course not but one day he will be. Super cape Cena was, Hulk was all eras top guys were. Only justified were Austin and rock who were legitimately talented and entertaining. They only stayed a while too so we never got bored of them. Everything went to shit after attitude era
it's because vince can only focus on one dude at a time, and thinks he can farm his drawing power for 10 years. a smarter man would have 3-4 top guys who move in and out of the that position so the fans don't grow actively hostile to the one guy and substantially more dimes can be drawn over a longer period of time. vince just has such a bizarre mix of high time preference and absolute commitment and has left entire fortunes on the table as a result
Yeah like link said ten years ago can't wait to see it get better when he goes away. But it might not
it's hard to sufficiently underscore how much of what most take for granted as "normal" in american wrestling is just vince mcmahon's personal tics
>Only justified were Austin and rock who were legitimately talented and entertaining.
Why is it that every time marks say they want new stars, they get b***hy when they actually start pushing new stars.
Everyone seems to have conveniently forgotten that Rock didn't start off popular either and had to work his ass off to get to where he is now.
Obese (anti) smarks just like to complain about everything. When they're pushing new guys they're being overpushed, when they're pushing old guys there's no new stars
Or how about push people that fans want to see?
During Romans rocket strapped mega push, Fans were cheering for
>Samoa Joe
>Cesaro
>Alister Black
>Daniel Bryan
>Rollins (as a face)
>Ambrose
I could go on, but you get the idea.
Rollins got injured
>Cesaro
ok mark
>Samoa Joe
Broken down fat old dude
>Cesaro
Can't speak
>Alister Black
Yeah well we've seen what he can do when given free reign in AEW
>Daniel Bryan
True
>Rollins
Never lost a singles match to Roman Reigns
>Ambrose
True
>Cesaro
>Can't speak
IDK where this meme comes from. I get that he's not the most electrifying man in sports entertainment, but he's fairly eloquent and intelligent. He's a better promo than Roman by miles.
>I’m at home when I’m inside these four ropes
I do not get the reference.
That wasn't as bad as people here say. Yes, it was bad, but there are worse promos all the time
Ambrose is an hardcore shitter, no way a mainstream conpany with sponsor would keep him long term
shut your pansy homosexual mouth
take your med schizo
Rock was better in fricking late 97 than Queery will ever be
>NUUUUUUUU ROCK WAS ALWAYS AMAZING, ATTITUDE ERA 4EVA.
I hate the IWC...
what was the reaction when theory won?
People were leaving. WWE fans hate this guy lol. They are seething on Twitter.
why are you seething so hard troon?
wipe your tears and take your meds
Shut up theory you're a shit
People aren't happy with the lack of payoff in WWE right now. Brainless fans will call this PPV 'a banger' but they're fricking moron shills.
Black person… it was the last match… the show was over…
seethe e-Black person
We don’t announce what we’re doing and then sign our posts here
lots of seethe
in the arena. People keep saying it was silence?
nope lots of boos
well he's a heel right? so that's what you want. Unless he's suppose to be a face?
yep hes a heel
Yep, people just left
it was a crock of shit
If you’re a mark then this reaction is fine, if you’re a smark please get a new hobby
everyone got up and left as soon as he unclipped the briefcase lmao
Crowd went absolutely insane for him
He’s a heel
Yes, AEW Chads truly won
>e-drones love a homosexual now
not surprising coming from people that say troony every 5 mins
>pEdos loving a diddler
Who could've seen that coming?
true pedos do love kenny omega
Now that's a heel. Frick you, anon
LOL he’s uncut? fricking gross ant eater dick
Schlomo
wtf get that shit off my face. I was just jerking off to BBC porn.
Is he a shoot gay? Because i'm praying that if they eventually turn him face, they don't go for a "pride" angle like Finna Lor.
it might be worse than Roman. No one in a red state will like this absolute homosexual. If you are a man of God and have some integrity.
But why? He does not shove his gay stuff onto other people.
Yes his character is a work in progress (Although I like the selfie bit) He is good in the ring and has a look that can be shaped properly
This guy has no future. His oush will eventually fail.
Theory will be the next Cena unless he cracks under the pressure.
Am I moronic for thinking Riddle or Zayn were booked to win the match? I know booking doesn't matter to Vince but the last two months seem to have been built around one of them winning.
They have been building Theory since Survivor S.
Rhodes was supposed to win this, but then got injured.
It’s scary to think that Theory was supposed to win the rumble, but swapped with Rhodes due to the pec.
I dunno.
This just feels like Vince trying to prove several things
>Homegrown WWE talent is better than indie talent
>Younger (early 20's) is always better
>Enjoys making smarks seethe when he puts his guys over the indie darlings everyone loves
Theory is more of a medium to give fans a "frick you".
Theory is like if Cena was Ruthless Aggression Cena all these years. He needs to figure out his shtick because a couple flippyshit spots and whatever a town down is ain’t it.
Just saw the news.
They've got the rocket strapped on this guy lol
Ricky Starks at home
forgot pic lol
Dimes
No, Roman was pushed pretty much from day one. A lot of people probably forget that this is Theory's second main roster run. He was first called up to replace Andrade in a tag match and stayed in Zelina's stable of Andrade and people who replaced Andrade when he was injured. Theory was eventually sent back to NXT, so nowhere near Roman's push.
Yes. They are just pushing her too fast. Yes, theory is trans.
Lol Reigns hasn't lost a match in ten years.
dude, NO ONE will ever be as over pushed as Roman.
>Roman Is shoved down everyones throat for 5 straight years. Gets Booed mercilessly
>WWE forces legends to tweet comments like "fans need to give roman a chance"
>WWE forces Daniel Bryan (who was incredibly over)) to give roman a win at Fastlane 2015 for a title match oppertunity. Bryan shakes Romans hand in attempt to pass the torch. Roman is still heavily booed
>WWE removes all anti-roman signs from live events. Shows are heavily edited to omit the booing and negative reactions, Anti-Roman Signs are digitally edited out
>Roman is a multiple time World Champion, Royal Rumble Winner, has headlined several Wrestlemanias. Always gets booed despite being pushed as a face.
>WWE allows Roman to swear multiple times to get over. Romans uses words like "bitch" and "ass" frequently on RAW. Brad Maddox is fired for saying "wienery pricks" in a non televised dark match.
>WWE tries to have Roman steal the momentum from Dean Ambrose and D-Bry again. Dean is now referred to as Romans "Little Buddy". Everytime Roman teams with Ambrose, there is a formula that is followed. Ambrose controls the fan reaction, and Roman goes for the pin to capitlize on the cheering. This causes a wave of boos when Roman is tagged in creating a fascinating contrast in audience reception.
>con'd
>Years later, WWE legends still tweet that fans are too harsh on Roman. Possibly being paid by WWE to say that. Indie wrestlers/Ex WWE wrestlers who want to go work for WWE praise Roman, in attempts that they will get noticed by scouting.
>WWE recycles the Authority storyline that made Bryan popular in another attempt to get Roman over. It doesnt work.
>WWE then allows Roman to strike the boss (Vince) in another desperate attempt to get the fans behind him. It still doesnt work.
>WWE makes Roman win the title on RAW, where Main Event titles rarely change hands in attempt to get fans interested in Roman. It still doesnt work.
>Roman defeats the undertaker in a match on Wrestlemania that is heavily panned. This now gives fans an excuse to boo. At this point, I have no idea what WWE is trying to do.
>In a last ditch effort, WWE says Roman has cancer. Vince is literally praying to every Ethnic Deity and Abrahamic God that the storyline will make fans love Roman as much as he does. Still doesnt work. Fans cheer for Samoa Joe and other better wrestlers.
>Roman miracously comes back, fans are still ambivalent, he eventually turns heel. He still sucks.
Sit down Zoomer super cape Cena was overbooked. Austin and rock weren't. Hulk was but he created two wrestling booms so that's ok with me brothers and that was when kayfabe was still alive
Cena was actually entertaining you moron, he knew how to talk and played the crowd. Yeah, the super cena era fricked over tons of talent, but at least you knew the guy had all the factors to be the "It" guy.
Roman has none of that, and due to his failed 5+ year push, more wrestlers were gimped to not outshine him.
>Cena was actually entertaining
Lol gotta love revisionism. No he wasn't. 5 moves of doom were a thing (still are) literally having the exact same match for 10 years. Roman is technically the better wrestler but he doesn't have the charisma, sticking him with heyman and turning him heel was a great idea, but they should have done this in 2014. Problem was Brock was white hot back then and they needed a believable face foil, no way Daniel Bryan would have been that guy.
I think a Bryan and Brock feud could’ve been great actually, their match at that one Survivor Series was really good.
I loved the contrast between Brock laughing at Bryan at the start of the match and looking terrified of him post-match.
> no way Daniel Bryan would have been that guy
Maybe if they didn’t book him as the guy who won a belt after his opponent just had the fight of his life and then lost it in five seconds.
The Roman Reigns "won't take no for an answer" face push that had him main event Wrestlemania 4 years in a row despite a large portion of the audience not liking it and the forced push being a major reason for 4 consecutive years of steep declines of RAW viewership is unmatched in company history, Not even John Cena was as shat upon with such steep viewership declines and pushing Hogan and Austin and The Rock made all the sense most of the time during their pushes because they were undeniably sky high over at their heights.
Theory...won a plastic briefcase. So did Baron Corbin and Damien Sandow. He will not get even a Cena tier push, much less a Roman tier push.
Hating Roman Reigns is a sign you haven't left puberty yet
liking Ramen Rains is a sign that you're not white
100%, roman is the biggest failure in wrestling for how relentlessly he was pushed, he cut the companies audience and half and oversaw the birth of its first real competition in 20 years
What still surprises me about Roman's mega push was the WWE were forcing legends and other wrestlers to tweet "Give Roman a Chance".
The guy had headlined multiple wrestlemanias, and even had a whole Royal Rumble revolve around him. But goddamn, Vince was practically begging fans to love Roman. It's why I think the cancer angle was a work.
Yes he was. Even ECW ONS proved that hating Cena was more fun than cheering for RVD. You can hate the fact he buried a shit ton of people, even the Nexus, but still, Cena at least had the "It" factors to captivate an audience.
Top guys always "bury" some people they need fodder if you want to keep them on top
>It's why I think the cancer angle was a work.
I honestly don't know why this isn't more common. Wrestling is such a carny bussines that people will do anything for money, but yet people can't imagine someone faking cancer to clean their image, even if wrestlers and promoters in the past have done worse things than faking cancer. I'm not saying that I'm sure it was a work, but I definitely see a chance that was a work
He gets you over worked.
I thought smarks were supposed to be smart? kwab
couldn't tell you, i don't watch wrestling.
not at all. he is getting the miz/dolph push not the roman push.
why the seethe?
I don't know if he will be overpushed or not, but even as goofy as he is, he has shown more charisma than Roman in his entire career, so it can't be worse.
Has a heel ever vsidrf this much asshurt out of Fhite? kwab
>grooms kids
>fingers butthole
>WWE pushes him to the moon
>Patrick proven innocent of grooming
>fired
kek
I hate his gay little vests
Not exactly. Roman was slightly more pushed than theory but he also was slightly better
Not even close. Once he gets episodes surrounding him every week while not getting a reaction, thats how you know he's Roman level of overpushed
The Rock got booed. Cena got booed. He’s a young guy with a good look that at least gets emotions. You can push Cesaro in his 40s who never drew a dime or give a shot to this idiot. I’d take the idiot. Stop being obese.
this homie looking kinda ZESTY, if you catch my drift
coli.
>a heel being legitimately disliked is making aewtists lose their minds
Guess they’ve never seen it before
Reigns singles run immediately started with him in the title picture (two main event world title matches)
*the WORLD title picture