The drop to your legs and to the double leg position is fast enough that the timing is virtually the exact same as trying to double leg someone normally. Are you now going to make the claim that double leg takedowns don't work? Or are you going to cope with "that doesn't count because BJJ guys can't do takedowns"?
Daki-age isn't just holding them up. It's a guard slam. You're going to unhook your legs in mid air and change levels for a double faster than the guy with dominant grips can slam you?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You're going to unhook your legs in mid air and change levels for a double faster than the guy with dominant grips can slam you?
Uhh, yes? Unless he's slamming you from the knee level, you have enough time to react and if you can't, that's a (you) problem
3 months ago
Anonymous
Sure Jan. Those dozens of videos online of guys in BJJ competitions getting slammed are all faked.
3 months ago
Anonymous
They're unprepared for the move because the rules don't allow it, so it doesn't even register as a possibility
It's like if a boxer suddenly got tackled or if a wrestler got kicked in the face mid match. Doesn't mean that there's nothing you can do against it if you're aware that it can happen
3 months ago
Anonymous
Dude in your gif fricked up. He could have grabbed the other guys head or legs and stopped slam
Honestly, BJJ should have a rule for this: if your opponent is able to lift you completely off the ground while your maintain closed guard to the point they are standing straight up, then there should be a punishment for you. There should be something that acknowledges just how terrible of a position you were in, even if it's just awarding 4 points and resetting to both standing.
I would be in favor of treating it as an automatic submission even, as truly getting dropped from that height would absolutely end the fight, but I can imagine judging it could be quite an issue.
Can the legs be bent? If so, how much? Can you be leaned forward or do you have to be entirely upright? If it's the latter, where is the cutoff between being upright and leaning forward too much? If it's the former, how far can you lean for it to count? There would definitely be people who could technically meet the rules as written by lifting their opponent five inches off the ground.
What I'm trying to say is that this position would be almost impossible to score consistently because it's surprisingly difficult to precisely define what it means to "stand up straight". You could judge it based on the height to which the competitor was lifted, but since judges and athletes would both be just eyeballing it, there would definitely be frickups where the judge either stopped the fight or let it continue while either of the athletes thought they were in the clear, which could then be rolled back based on replays
On a side note, this is the reason why strict overhead press was removed from Olympic weightlifting - because of this difficulty with judging, some athletes were able to degenerate the movement into what almost resembled a standing bench press and still have the lift counted as successful, pic related
>TL;DR - Good idea but hard to execute, scoring would be way too subjective and inconsistent
Yeah basically
What if I just put my legs on the floor and then go for a leg trip?
Or use butterfly guard so you never go for daki age?
>leg trip
I'm sure that works on your fellow hobby bjj tech bros.
>*Unzips legs and headbutts you*
You were saying?
>starts standing up
>double ankle sweeps you
And the other guy is just going to stand there while you're doing all that?
The drop to your legs and to the double leg position is fast enough that the timing is virtually the exact same as trying to double leg someone normally. Are you now going to make the claim that double leg takedowns don't work? Or are you going to cope with "that doesn't count because BJJ guys can't do takedowns"?
Daki-age isn't just holding them up. It's a guard slam. You're going to unhook your legs in mid air and change levels for a double faster than the guy with dominant grips can slam you?
>You're going to unhook your legs in mid air and change levels for a double faster than the guy with dominant grips can slam you?
Uhh, yes? Unless he's slamming you from the knee level, you have enough time to react and if you can't, that's a (you) problem
Sure Jan. Those dozens of videos online of guys in BJJ competitions getting slammed are all faked.
They're unprepared for the move because the rules don't allow it, so it doesn't even register as a possibility
It's like if a boxer suddenly got tackled or if a wrestler got kicked in the face mid match. Doesn't mean that there's nothing you can do against it if you're aware that it can happen
Dude in your gif fricked up. He could have grabbed the other guys head or legs and stopped slam
If the guard player just opens their guard and stands up, they're literally in the perfect position for a double leg
What if I'm naked? Checkmate judogay
>What if I'm naked?
I squeeze your balls
I dislocate your jaw with a right hook as you bend over reaching for my balls. Light work
"This is slam the fricker and get DQ'd. It looks like this."
>Remember kids, you can't say 'DQ' without the 'you'.
>you can't say 'DQ' without saying 'dick you'
Honestly, BJJ should have a rule for this: if your opponent is able to lift you completely off the ground while your maintain closed guard to the point they are standing straight up, then there should be a punishment for you. There should be something that acknowledges just how terrible of a position you were in, even if it's just awarding 4 points and resetting to both standing.
I would be in favor of treating it as an automatic submission even, as truly getting dropped from that height would absolutely end the fight, but I can imagine judging it could be quite an issue.
Can the legs be bent? If so, how much? Can you be leaned forward or do you have to be entirely upright? If it's the latter, where is the cutoff between being upright and leaning forward too much? If it's the former, how far can you lean for it to count? There would definitely be people who could technically meet the rules as written by lifting their opponent five inches off the ground.
What I'm trying to say is that this position would be almost impossible to score consistently because it's surprisingly difficult to precisely define what it means to "stand up straight". You could judge it based on the height to which the competitor was lifted, but since judges and athletes would both be just eyeballing it, there would definitely be frickups where the judge either stopped the fight or let it continue while either of the athletes thought they were in the clear, which could then be rolled back based on replays
On a side note, this is the reason why strict overhead press was removed from Olympic weightlifting - because of this difficulty with judging, some athletes were able to degenerate the movement into what almost resembled a standing bench press and still have the lift counted as successful, pic related
>TL;DR - Good idea but hard to execute, scoring would be way too subjective and inconsistent