Question for Dutch bros:
Which of these hurts the most?
If you could choose only one, which one would you like to have won the most?
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Question for Dutch bros: Which of these hurts the most? If you could choose only one, which one would you like to have won the most?
i wonder if it's the one they were alive to see. fricking kraut idiot
You would be surprised.
If I could choose one of ours, it would be definitely the one you refballed against us, absolutely no question.
because you saw your team winning it you fricking mongrel
before 2016 i wouldve said i wouldve rather have seen us win in 2004, now id rather we had not been rigged by the bongs as well in 1966
This. I can't really speak on the first two, I'd say first one hurts more than the second though because 1 Germany and 2 Cruyff deserved it.
But yeah 2010 is the one which I have some memories from, I can destinctly remember that I was walking up the stairs to go to bed (I was rly young and was rly late) and I could here my father screaming 'NO!' and knowing it was over.
Still kinda weird though that I had to go to bed just before the end but I guess parents thought there would be extra time and extention...
Don't worry Dutchbro, you'll win one sooner or later
Your dad sent you to sleep during a World Cup final? lmao it's in june as well
>2010
>really young
bruh
moron alert. Zoomers aside, 1974 legit made them mad as frick as an entire country because it was the post-WW2 generation playing and the war memories were still very present. Losing to their big neighbor despite their innovative and attractive system alone would have sucked since our relationship is more intense than that of the Dutchies with Spain or Argentina because of geography alone already, but the war stuff made it 10x worse
Don't be sad. But I know that feel, I remember sitting next to my father as a kid when Germany lost the semifinal 2006. Hosting a world cup had felt genuinely magical, even though my city didn't host a cup. And that game was a rude awakening. Unfortunately, only one can win the tournament, and for the others, the awakening might be very rude
>I remember sitting next to my father as a kid when Germany lost the semifinal 2006
>mfw I watched the semi 2006 alone in my room because my father drank himself into a coma again and was passed out in the living room
>mfw when in 2014 my father was admitted to the hospital the the day before the final for pancreatitis, and I, again, watched the game alone in my room
sorry to here that man
*hear, holy shit spelling
No worries. Could still be worse.
Oh shit man, I'm sorry you had to live through that. I hope you're doing better now.
Not better, not worse, it is what it is.
Thanks, though.
bit harsh
>your neighbour
>the guys that took your bike
>your former overlords
all of those seem grimm
this is the third time i read bike and netherlands in a reply
could you explain me the story krauntfren?
It's a running gag the Dutch often use when it comes to Germans: They make fun of us/ lightly remind us of WW2 and our crimes by telling us to give their bikes back. As you might know, the Netherlands are a very bike-focused country, bikes are the most popular urban means of transport by far. That already was the case in WW2, and we Germans took these bikes and used them when we occupied the Netherlands. So they say they want them back.
It's mostly light-hearted banter these days as far as I can tell, but it used to be genuine hate. Their generation of 1974 players had grown up during or slightly after the war, and they hated Germany as much as anyone can hate a country. Today, the Dutch are chill about us again, hence the jokes. Unfortunately, we are too insecure about our past to collectively join the banter
For this reason my Grandpa taught me to loudly ring my bike bell whenever I saw a dutch person while out riding
Why germans are like this
kek based
Unironically based
He also refered to the dutch exclusively as west-frisians, he was a fun guy to be around. Lost half his left hand to an artillery strike but could still play the piano very well.
Kek, based. Don't ask him what was he up to from 1938 to 1945 though.
he told me he was on a grand european vacation with his buddies.
Based grandpa
My pleasure, Argiebro.
Ngl, I am very glad the Dutch forgave us for the most part. They are great neighbors. That hate thing lasted well into the 90s, it's good that it's over
oh now i get it, i hope one day you guys stop feeling guilty about ww2 just like japan did, things wouldn't have gotten thay way if the baguettes and bongs weren't so mean on you with the treaty versailles, ty germanbro
t. Rodrigo Becker
thanks fren <3
It is somewhat outrageous (in a funny way) though that Japan just went straight to dindu nuffin boohoo atomic bomb :~~*(
The japs just straight take the Shaggy defence and deny everything. There were no war crimes, the Korean women raped themselves, our troops had always been in China, there was no invasion
BASED
It's what the krauts should've done
the krauts didn't get nuked though
and they blame US for the atomic bomb, can you believe those nerds
Yeah, it's fricking moronic. My grandfather never spoke about it, but he fricking hated the japanese for what they've put him through. Good on the US for delivering two packages of concentrated freedom to those jerks. Shouldve lined up the manlet against the wall and shot him tbh.
holy shit this, what a fricking dickrider. Bet you're from one of the southern states.
Telling a people to not feel so guilty about something their great-grandparents did 80 years ago
OMG HOW CAN YOU BE SO DICKRIDER? I BET YOU ARE FROM THE SOUTHERN STATES YOU FRICKING NEO-NAZI
okay weeb
6 gorillion bikes will never be forgotten holedigger btw ty for funding zeeland
My pleasure. My parents are chilling in Zeeland as we speak btw
Did he dig a hole yet?
Almost Ceauceascu: with ham, eggsauce and boiled potatoes.
We dug plenty of holes back when we went there as a family, we also built many dam systems and canals and so on. But I haven't been there in about 10 years, so I think my parents might just be able to resist the natural German instinct to dig holes, but I cannot say that for sure. I guess they mostly chill in their little house in Vrouwenpolder and occasionally take walks at the beach. Without shovels, I hope
But really, absolutely everybody in our region has been to Zeeland at least five times lmao, last time we went there, we met like 10 friends and acquaintances. I'm from Aachen, I guess we are at the forefront of Zeeland colonization.
Aachen is Aken for us.
Thats not so far into German territory
I don't think Cruyff ever really hated the germans, Willem van Hanegem though... I swear he'd kill a german today if he could get away with it.
The Germans stole my granny's bike
yeah im curious about it too
They should be TRI be now.
🙁
ngl, it bothers me we don't even have a single fricking star above our crest
Germany. First with the new trophy would have been cool, Cruyff would have gotten a WC and be more in goat convo, that team in general would be respected like it should, ugly anti-football autistic G*rman roiders would have lost. Maradona is a likeable enough moron I don't begrudge him the win and the 2010 squad was honestly a bit of a meme and wouldn't be legendary like 74, altho I certainly would've enjoyed watching it be won
maradonna wasn't in that world cup tardo
Why do you insult him?
Ackchyually...
Maradona wasn't there in 1978.
Also Argentina copied their dad Italy and hosted that tournament while being a military dictatorship, refballing their way to the Cup.
Would have been really kino from the Dutchies had they won it in front the ultima junta.
This has no sense at all. Argentina was confirmed wc host in 1966 (10 years before the dictactorship appeared) so it was a coincidence.
AND all matches stands on internet, there aren't a single penalty or rigged game
the peru match
Stfu moron
He got you, be a man and admit you paid them off
watch the match again.
they hit a crossbar and a post before we even got the first goal in
Is this about '98?
That was an intense match. Argentina was really good and had the overhand for a part of the match then Artega went mental and Bergkamp did a Bergkamp
Dutchbro, I wouldn't care less about a match who we didn't sent our best. It's like 2010 wc for us
Watch it.
if you call this WC rigged (Peru hit a trollpost before we even started bootyblasting them) then at least admit that literally all of your victories were sketchy as frick.
>54 killing puskas with no consequence
>74 roided as shit
>90 klinsmann diving like an airplane, mexican/uruguayan ref of course won't let argentina win
>14 neuer kills higuain, ref gives FK to germoids
>ugly anti-football autistic G*rman roiders would have lost
Damn, this might be the most obsessed and seething post I've seen on Fhite this year so far. Thank you. Also, show me Germans roided in 1974. And even then, only a complete moron would call the German squad of the early 70s "anti-footballers", they had dominated the Euros in 1972 with attractive plays. It's genuinely one of the best teams ever assembled and everybody with football knowledge recognizes Maier, Beckenbauer, Breitner, Müller, Overath, Netzer, Vogts, etc. as the greats they are. However, >you are an American ... need I say more?
You were definitely roiding though kraut bro. But it's really not a big deal, since our entire squad was as well, it was par for the course at that time and honestly still today for the most part
germans and ruskis are always roided
Maradona won in the 86 against Germany, thats 78 against Netherlands
Maradona wasn't part of the '78 squad. Menotti did consider him but ultimately didn't call him.
Maradona never had any grudge against him, in fact he still considered Menotti a mentor and always spoke highly of the man that denied him WC glory.
More important, how come the neverlands never hosted a world cup. Switzerland has, sweden has, chile too, even fricking qatar is hosting one now, what is their excuse?
>Switzerland 1954
>Sweden 1958
>Chile 1962
I think the whole affair was a bit smaller back then.
Also we all know why Quatar gets to host one.
The Netherlands weren't a football powerhouse until the 70s, Sweden however had been a relatively big player for quite a while by 1958, with both countries being similar in terms of wealth. Switzerland also did well enough to justify holding a World Cup, and their football tradition is actually pretty impressive, even though they never were a big boy of the sport. Chile had it easier to host a World Cup since there had to be some sort of parity between Europe and South America, and South America simply has fewer countries. Still, everybody had expected Argentina to host 1962 priorly. The Netherlands definitely were wealthy and also large enough to host a World Cup, but I suppose they didn't care enough to actually engage in the bidding process. Today, it seems ridiculous that "lesser football nations" got to host the World Cup while they didn't, but this is us seeing everything to 2022 eyes. In 1958, Sweden was better and more relevant in football than the Netherlands. FIFA probably didn't care that much about the Dutchies back then since their country isn't that big as a market. So the Dutchies had to get good on their own
Too expensive tbh
We were runner's up to host WC2022 but then Qatar happened.
Must be 2010. Even the older generations here never really went on about either of these finals even though the one against Argentina was dodgy as hell. But yeah, if I could choose I'd have taken the most recent one any time
Cruijf powergap everything else when it comes to Dutch football everyone know we lost that final and we often saw the highlights. The argie one was a murderball fest and would have 10 red cards in todays game. The final vs Spain was a shit team that had no business being in a final.
The bike joke was not during the occupation but at the end of the war the Germans fled and many of them went home on our bikes.
>tf
>tp
>a shit team
Maybe, there were a lot of crap players in it but collectively it was a very sturdy and solid turd
Uruguay team was shit in 2010 too, save for suarez, cavani and forlan, and still you only won that semi with two goals that would have been disallowed with var.
If VAR would have disallowed that van Bronckhorst goal because van Bommel bodychecked someone Id have stopped following the sport overnight
>bodycheck
>with his studs
>at garganos hip
Stupid toothpaste motherfricker
You and Argentina are truly the terrorists of football.
> one of the best goals in recent World Cup history
> b-but there was a foul
Go frick yourself, you fake stars having starlet
Don't you have to go to the train station to pick a refugee to frick your wife, cuck?
Uruguai stars reslly make this guy mad, even in other threads
My dude I don't give a frick if van Bommel stabbed that guy. I don't wanna see a goal like that disallowed whether Forlan or van Bronckhorst or their granny scores it.
stupid van der vaart that ball went out, with your clearance you enabled Iniesta
I blame John Shytinga the nost
It's 1974 by a mile.
When we beat Germany in Euro88 in the last minute, everyone talked about it was revenge for 74. A lot of people said the semifinal in 88 was the REAL final, even some players like Goelith and Von Basten stated that. 1978 is only referred to as a Videla regime wc and 2010 is cringe zoomy pain, like the akchually we could have beaten RealBarca with Del Bosque on the bench, while we got From Marwijk, and only Sneijder and LCIM to back it up.
2nd place was just like in 2014 3rd place, a max max result.
1974 was a loss. 2nd place wasnt valued at all.
> 2nd place was just like in 2014 3rd place, a max max result.
I don‘t know about that. You were a penalty shootout away from the final.
And >we were really nervous in that game, could have gotten the result.
Imagine a cheeky LCIM goal against Neuer.
Nein.
You dont win a wc with Cillisen on goal, Ron Vlaar in defense, Kuyt as right or left back, Daryl Janmaat and Bruno Martins Indi
None of those
1998 side with Bergkamp, Overmars etc is the one that hurt me
>van der sar, stam, reiziger, zenden, davids, seedorf, overmars, bergkamp, kluivert, makaay
Really shame, by far the best dutch team of all time, not like those shitters from 2010
1998 was such a great team
Yeah I couldn't stand the 2010 team, I was happy they lost and unironically think you would've defeated Spain, they struggled that entire tournament
If you're the Messi hater though, kys
Why weren't those guys at the 2002 WC?
78 was probably the closest with the injury time ball on the post
they rightfully lost in 74, a big mouth overrated team that shat the bed when push came to shove.
2010 team played too pragmatic and defensive, didn't deserbe to win either
worst times watching them were 1998 and euro 2000, should have had a pen in overtime against brazil and 2000 was the mother of all bed shittings
they refballed the shit of us in 98 and parked the bus for 80 mins
but muh bergkamp meme
THERE IS BEAR CUM
>2000 was the mother of all bed shittings
>2008
>3-0 France
>4-1 Italy
>2-0 Romania
>shit the bed against a shitty Russian side
They didn't really shit the bed as much as just got completely overpowered (Russian roids) no sour grapes BTW, we all take any advantage we can get
van Basten is a hack and he got completely outfoxed by GUUS
he should've dismissed boulahrouz from the squad. Then again, the players might've seen that as a tyrant move, so damned if you do, damned if you dont.
Sure but I don't mind van Basten as a player was so legendary to me he could manage and fail as a coach for the next hundred tournaments
2008 was almost a van basten redemption arc.
This is the one that hurt me the most. And obviously 2010 since i experienced it.
>3-0 France
>4-1 Italy
other way around
1974 was the best team of all time
1988 2nd. Gullit, Van Basten, Rijkaard, Koeman, Van Breukelen. Stacked with Ballon d'Ors and Europe Cup I winners
1998 3rd. Basically Ajax 1995 CL winners with some add ons. 0 Ballon dOrs winners.
abhorrent opinion
Fyi: I ate aspergus today. No shit.
Elaborate
met ham, gekookt eitje en gekookte patatten?
better be green ones and not those disgusting white ones, yes I am racist against white aspergus they are disgusting and should be ashamed of themselves.
abhorrent opinion
White asparagus is great when it’s in season
Reminder that Cruyff would have gotten a sticky if he had won at 74
luv me some asperges
First one. Cruyff would have had his cup and the war generation would die of happiness
What would you prefer, winning the world cup with children of african migrants like france, or never win it with "pureblood" dutch men?
In the most based generation some of the most based players were Seedorf, Davids and Kluivert, Before that Gullit and llama Rijkaard.
Don‘t know what you‘re talking about.
Latter
the only trophy we won was with suriname. suriname is part of us, we like them.
I can live with it if a Dutchman scores the winning goal
They should have won in 2014. It was Robben's time...
He shouldn't have injured himself right before the 2010 wc, might have been different then.
Nah, 2010 was still choke mode Robben. I firmly believe that if you don't frick the shootout against Argentina he crushes >us.
2014 LCIM was godtier. He was our defacto captain instead of that fair weather fraud van persie.
If I was Dutch, it would have been the first for me. They were winning and had a hell of a team but Germany fixed the match
Well, given that I wasn't born for the first two the answer should be rather obvious. But tbh, I wasn't really all that bummed out in 2010. We played ugly muderball.
1974, Cruyff deserved that prize.
Another hate thread made by an german. Many such cases
True. His dad dieded during a bomb raid in Rotterdam. His city was literally destroyed for nothing.
Back in them days they used to talk about 'Mofrika' for Germany. Like Krautland or something.
West-Frisians actually live in the Enkhuizen area, some 20 miles above Amsterdam. They are known for heavily drinking and most of them are Az or Ajax fans
Akchually Frank de Boer speelt de bal is a West Frisian
>drinking
they're also heavy drug users lol
My family is from East-Frisia, so it was more of a light jab at Holland being part of the kingdom of Frisia rather than it's own thing
Like lotsa traces of coke in the sewer system?
I only know about the alcyhol.
My granny used to call you guys Moffen.
De Moffen komen eraan.
The Krauts are coming.
>tfw cannot sing alle duitsers zijn homosexual anymore
why not?
It's insinuating being gay is bad. Edgy Fhite(nel) humor aside I don't disagree with the notion that it's a bit offensive. It's catchy af though. Every time I hear the song I automatically substitute the original lyrics.
eh, I don't think chants at football games should be viewed as political statements, especially not if they are historical.
Lost your vocal cords?
Is a pretty weak banter song imo
Wat zijn die Moffen stil (3x)
Schade, Deutschland, alles ist vorbei, alles ist vorbei, alles ist vorbei (3x)
Are better.
Just stadium songs originated in the stands without some music tune on volume 11
It's seen as generational hurt. My grandfather remembers Germany, my father Argentina and I very well remember Spain