There are Argentines who put themselves in debt for 10 years just to go see this World Cup.
I don't think you comprehend how big the hype is here Fhite, like just last week a man said on the news that he used the money he saved up to buy a house to go to Qatar instead. All of that, just to see Messi's last World Cup.
It's going to be reeeaaaaaally awkward when Argentine fans are the only genuine fans there, surrounded by paid pajeet armies.
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inflation in argentina is so high they will be able to pay off their debt with toilet paper next month
>portuguese intellectuals
>100% inflation rate per year
rookie numbers
You elected Lula so wont act surprised when you start hitting those numbers
>wont
*don't.
I definitely won't act surprised, we are all expecting his inevitable impeachment next year just like it happened with Dilma
anyways, Im moving out of this shithole with my italian citizenship and you should be doing the same, hermano
>brown morons elect a moron
>white euro countries suffer the consiquences with brown invasion
Grim
except the overwhelming majority of brown brazilians can't even afford to leave the country, so it will be mostly white flight
Have there been a lot of other periods of extranational white flight? First Lula term?
not that I am aware of. Lula first term was a complete different context, people were still seeing him as a good alternative with all his own populist discourse that wasn't that worn out back then. then the commodities boom ended and the first corruption scandals emerged.
>mostly white flight
>Brazil
I dont mean to offend you but im finding this very hard to believe
whatever homie, Im not willing to spoonfeed you. there are numerous amount of Wikipedia articles on it if you are this clueless.
Did Yuros immigrate to Brazil generations ago thinking that it was this new world akin to America with loads of economic opportunity, just for it to degenerate into a failed state? Or was it mostly around WW2 and the euros just didn't have a choice but to flee.
look up the confederados
>even their euros aren't from Europe
>confederados
Lmfao?? Vaguely seen some of this stuff on twitter
brazil had a lot more gold than and easily extractable wealth than america at that time, which gave more power to our crown, which in turn strengthened our grip in the colony itself
this allowed for the same feudalist principles to be put in place in brazil, which doomed the country's long term future
ironically what made the us prosper as a freed colony was the fact that it was a much more sterile colony which gave england more trouble than it was worth
As time went on, what prevented the Portuguese colonialists from maintaining themselves in a protected, prosperous class? Intermarrying and racial assimilation? Or just the nature of their exportations back to Europe enriching so few and many of the Portuguese immigrants being stuck in that feudal worker state
>what prevented the Portuguese colonialists from maintaining themselves in a protected, prosperous class?
anon, the brazilian "independence" was granted by our king's son, brazil never rebelled the way america did, for all intents and purposes brazil remained a "colony", but instead of serving portugal back home it got claimed by the elites who were already established there
wait so brazil is the
>I made this
>you made this?
>I made this
of countries? lel.
yes for the first option, that's what exactly happened with my family, they fell for the government propaganda only to find out they were thrown on an empty land of which its development was relying all on themselves.
the immigration influx mostly happend in between late 19th century and early 20th century, but in Italy they still were suffering with poverty and some minor wars here and there. so yeah, I guess they wouldn't question too much about how good the opportunity really was.
>government propaganda
Brazilian or back in the old country? Was Brazil also attractive in that the opportunity was in theory this lush, fertile, agricultural economy?
brazilian propaganda on the old country, posters promoting immigration to Brazil were all over Italy. it could be that these opportunities were mostly agriculture leaned, but it surely was a far cry from the "american dream" that the propaganda led to believe, putting Brazil and USA in the same boat.
And they both have the same fate, only it came faster for Brazil.
All my great grandparents came to Brazil from Italy in 1907, they could have choosen America...if only they knew how bad things are...
>could've been eating gabagool
>instead chose sopa de macaco
*dont
It is true that the last PEC bolsonaro did will explode next year, together with what he did to try to stop the gas price
Are you underage? Do you know Lula was actually president twice and nothing like that happened?
Inflation in Argentina has nothing to do with ideology, we have a dead currency since 2001 and only time can fix it.
Honest question, if Argentinians could choose between
1. Stabilizing the economy to Chile level
2. Argentina wins the world cup beating Brazil in the semis and Germany in the final but inflation gets much worse and Argentina won’t recover for 10 years
Which will Argentinians choose
2
I plan to leave the country anyways
A lot of Brazilians/Argentinians just go back to Europe where they're originally from? Never happens in America
Well America is a first world-ish country.
Is there not enough class/ethnic isolation for barely assimilated Euros in Argentina/Brazil for them to be pretty stable?
number 2 all the way.
Chile level economy is not as crazy as winning the WC.
a guy in the news literally said
"give me venezuela levels of inflation if it's means that messi gets the WC"
so yeah, we're fricked
>Stabilizing the economy to Chile level
If you would've put Switzerland or idk... Luxemburg I would choose this. So i'm with the 2nd option
>1. Stabilizing the economy to Chile level
is chile economics are so good why they come here to use our public universities and hospitals?
>is chile economics are so good why they come here to use our public universities and hospitals?
Gringos come here for the same things along the border lol lmao so you tell me how you would value US in the geosphere from that fact
We're poor so they can come here and get shit for cheaper, even real estate
I would not live in usa even if my life depended on it
Do most Mexicans care about white Americans moving to Mexico City? Don't even really know if it's enough of a trend that people notice.
I know rentals are off the charts thanks to americans living there, pushing locals away
Probably the Airbnb effect more than American WHFers moving there
I earn a minimum wage in dollars and I'm like don corleone here, I don't want to imagine what an actual american can do around here
hell yeah dude
I had to go to cdmx for some family shit last month, while I was there I went to visit a friend in Roma norte. I heard more english being spoken than spanish all over the area. His roommate had friends over and no one was actually from Mexico, americans, irish, south african, colombian, argentinian, ukrainian. Roma has always been a bubble but this was the most dramatic it's been since I've been going.
2.
I don't care about the economy, I'm gonna kill myself regardless, so might as well see these c**ts win.
>chile levels
>?
argentina winning of course, not even a debate
>Stabilizing the economy to Chile level
Woah it's fricking nothing,
It doesn't matter if magically we get better because four years later some moronic kirchnerist/peronist will be in charge again because they control half the media here and everyday they will b***h for something in the news belittling the merits of the person in charge of stabilizing the country, and when they are in charge again they will frick the economy once more
If you give me another option like killing all the kirchernist and banning peronism i would choose that but since there is no such option i will choose another wc
>kirchnerist/peronist will be in charge again because they control half the media
C'mon now, you got that backwards.
>fell for the santiago meme
2, because Argentina winning will bring a lot of businesses and tourist money
Who goes on holiday to a country just because it won the world cup?
>Chile level
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>would you rather be 3cm taller or have a 10/10 woman lust after you
Dude, chile is a meme. Their rightwing policies since pinochet destroyed to country for the majority. See the argies talking about they going there. There is why these revolts are hapenning
>There is why these revolts are hapenning
Are you talking about the revolts from 2019? Those were internacional forces (probably israelites) trying to destroy us. They used commies and poor people as their useful idiots and manipulated them trough propaganda in social media and tv (chilean news channel are just communist propaganda), as well as infiltrated agents.
After the pandemic all the protests stopped and now cared anymore, because the israelites already got what they wanted so they stopped manipulating.
Also, Chile has been used as a lab for the gringos to see if some things work, they did it with Pinochet and capitalism, and now they did it with the protests. This time it was a population control experiment .They wanted to test how far would commies and poorgays go (the lowest iq people of the country) with their protests and how easy it would be to manipulate them. It was a huge succes so they replicated it in the usa with the blm protests. Once again they used media manipulation and targeted they lowest iq segment of the population (Black folk).
yeah man its all israelites when its my favorite rich pedophile getting protested, everything is perfectly fine other than israelites nobody has anything to complain about
>all the protests stopped
boric sent the troops on trade unionists
unironically you must be from this country to understand it
I don't know if they were israelites, they were international forces
I blamed the low iq poorgays and commies.
>ayo we dindu nufin it was de evil UN keepin us down n shiet
1.
Then I could go back to Argentina.
>Chile level
I dunno who's the wealthiest latin America? I think it's Uruguay
>stabilize economy to Chile levels
>50% of the country are still room temperature IQ parasites
>economy goes back to being the normal shitfest within a month
Just give me the world cup.
2 of course, that would be easily the best moment in my life
To be quite honest, if 2 happens, probably everything that's wrong in the country, including inflation, will fix itself.
>1. Stabilizing the economy to Chile level
how come europoors are so stupid?
I just don't see a scenario in my mind where Argentina aren't champions
Those are people that know how to live, unlike me suffering under some delusions of ambition and burying myself in the process. I wish I never came to America
Messi deserves one, you'll win it
why even make this thread if you know people are going to mock our economy
i honestly believe some of this argensimios are masochists,they love to be insulted,degraded and spat in their faces
bro i love argentina, i’m not mocking anything
quite frankly i hope you win it, i know >we dont have a chance anyway
You think op cares about some npc making fun of us for the le economy? Most of us don't care
>WE DONT CARE
>all the posts mocking our country have (you)s
this country is full of morons
Read the thread moron most of responses doesn't care
I don't give a shit about what random incels think about my country
You literally post here any ramdom thought/information you just got,you are looking to see the replies if not you wouldnt be posting this thread.
>NOOOO YOU JUST CAN'T POST YOUR OPINION EVEN IF YOU JUST DON'T CAREEE NOOOO
dilate
>same redditor posting a japanese textbook from before
lole
I doubt that guy would give a shit about our economy. He prolly wants to go to Japan to get a nice cozy job as a tree ornament in Aokigahara.
please redeem the world cup sirs
is happening
After the Sacachispas thing I'm glad this diva is not going.
Why? He was right in shitting on that guy
>top pinned comment is Loco Ser
HOLY BASED
I just hope they enjoy themselves.
>They won't
How much does Messi want it?
that happens in every world cup
I really don't feel as much hype this time
2014 was way more imo
You are just older and feel less excitement in general.
you might be right although I was already old in 2014, but still, I think l'm seeing less ads, promos, etc
not saying there's no hype, it's the wc and the team is in decent shape, so yeah
Apurate con mis empanadas veneco de mierda.
Why do foreigners blame their governments?
You have free and fair elections, it's not like the third world where the population is dumb/swayed by freebies. Or have the elections rigged. Any country that claims to be white/european should not blame the government for whatever little problems they face. You chose your leaders.
>These morons talking shit about our economy's prospects as if we had a genius (Bolsonaro) captaining it in the last four years
Yeah, sure, we are NOW doomed
yeah that why i want us to lose
i want to see this country get buck broken
We do the same shit literally every World Cup, why is it still a surprise for everyone? Like... bruh, we made England our home turf just for the Finalissima... imagine.
it's not just in argentina it is for me as well, i will not rest easy for the rest of my life if messi has no world cup. i cannot fathom stupid debates anymore when i know he's been the best i've ever seen. a missing world cup trophy is going to be annoying for the rest of life