Didn't Kota Ibushi give Vince a high five and had no idea who he was? lmao
Japan would be infinitely more familiar with Inoki and Giant Baba than some guy who shat on people
Ibushi is a bad case study, he didn't even care about wrestling until he was an adult and he is mentally deranged. The wrestling marks in Japan know who Vince is, but he didn't do much in Japan at all. That's like expecting people to know who Carson Daly is in Angola.
Vince is fairly famous in the US, but even he's not as famous as the most famous pro-wrestlers: Hogan, Austin, The Rock. Plus, his best stuff was mostly promo segments, which don't really hold much appeal if you can't speak English.
why would anyone think Vince would be famous in Japan? He's barely famous in America. Be like asking some kid in 1998 who Ichiro was
How many people in the USA know who Antonio Inoki is (even wrestling fans)? How many people in the US watched the Hashimoto vs. Takada feud in the 90s?
Is Twitter just entirely populated by the dregs of humanity who cannot into basic thought exercises?
>one of the biggest cultural icons of the late 90s and the visionary CEO of a globa powerhouse company is completely unknown in Japan, a country with the most wrestling heritage compared to the US
yeah whatever you say dude
Was the CEO of Toyota a star on international television and one of the highest rated shows for the better part of a decade?
Vince was not a cultural icon of the 90s lmao
The funniest thing is that you actually believe this dumb shit you’re saying
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
you actually think Vince McMahon was on the same level as Kurt Cobain, OJ Simpson, Michael Jordan, Brittany Spears, or Eminem?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Vince was seen as one of the few people who could tap into the 18-35 demographic and was pulling in ratings that were unheard of for wrestling. Hell, he parlayed that into starting the XFL which did have hype until everyone saw how shit it was. Still, he was up there for a while.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
you're delusional. you could argue for Austin or Rock, maybe even the NWO, but no one cares about Vince
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Go on then. Defend your point.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Japan barely had access to WWF in the 90’s. That’s literally why tape trading existed.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
People in Soviet bloc countries knew Metallica despite their music being banned. It’s called being over.
2 weeks ago
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Russian rock music had been thoroughly supressed for decades. The Western stuff was on a different level, so it got over way more.
Japan had better pro-wrestling than the US for most of Kota's lifetime, and Vince's actual matches are hardly the sort of thing a serious wrestler who didn't understabd English was going to study.
Also, is this really so unusual? Frick, I know who Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick are. Both are bigger stars and more important than Vince, and I still couldn't recognize them off the street.
2 weeks ago
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Vince McMahon and Japan aren’t Metallica and the Soviet Union. I don’t know why it’s a debate. Japan barely gave a shit about Austin in 98, let alone Vince.
How many people in the USA know who Antonio Inoki is (even wrestling fans)? How many people in the US watched the Hashimoto vs. Takada feud in the 90s?
Is Twitter just entirely populated by the dregs of humanity who cannot into basic thought exercises?
>people who don't care about wrestling don't know who Vince McMahon is
Wow no way! Most people on earth don't know who Vince or any wrestling personality is. Dave is hardly a reliable source on market research for the entire nation of Japan, and all of his Japan news is always wrong.
Just because you know who someone is doesn't mean you'll recognize 'em. I know who Bob Rock is, and I still couldn't recognize him off the street. Frick, I know who Ridley Scott is, and I couldn't recognize him off the street.
There was a guy who pretended to be Stanley Kubrick for years to get free meals and sex despite looking nothing like Kubrick because most people actually have no idea what the frick Stanley Kubrick looks like.
Just because you know who someone is doesn't mean you'll recognize 'em. I know who Bob Rock is, and I still couldn't recognize him off the street. Frick, I know who Ridley Scott is, and I couldn't recognize him off the street.
>he thinks all "fame" is the same
A majority of people don't know what the "Charlie bit me" kids name is either, but they definitely know of him
Dave is objectively right, though.
As usual, based DaveyMeltz
gotta love the Meltzmeister, ya just gotta
>MUST. DEFEND. MELTZER
You’re fricking moronic lmao
>ANYTHING THIS israelite EVER SAYS MUST BE WRONG
you're just as stupid as his dickriders
Didn't Kota Ibushi give Vince a high five and had no idea who he was? lmao
Japan would be infinitely more familiar with Inoki and Giant Baba than some guy who shat on people
Ibushi is a bad case study, he didn't even care about wrestling until he was an adult and he is mentally deranged. The wrestling marks in Japan know who Vince is, but he didn't do much in Japan at all. That's like expecting people to know who Carson Daly is in Angola.
I'm not defending anything, what he said was objectively correct. Seethe about it.
It’s impressive how much of a homosexual you are
>Ibushi wouldn't know the biggest most powerful most well known figure in wrestling
Is he implying that Vince McMahon is actually legitimately famous anywhere? Because he isn't.
Vince is fairly famous in the US, but even he's not as famous as the most famous pro-wrestlers: Hogan, Austin, The Rock. Plus, his best stuff was mostly promo segments, which don't really hold much appeal if you can't speak English.
The autist might be right on this one. Depends on how hot the Attitude Era was in Japan but even that was nearly 30 years ago
why the frick would Japanese people know who Vince is? it's not even Stone Cold, it's Vince
>one of the biggest cultural icons of the late 90s and the visionary CEO of a globa powerhouse company is completely unknown in Japan, a country with the most wrestling heritage compared to the US
yeah whatever you say dude
holy hell you're delusional
but can you type that without crying?
Who's the CEO of Toyota?
Was the CEO of Toyota a star on international television and one of the highest rated shows for the better part of a decade?
The funniest thing is that you actually believe this dumb shit you’re saying
you actually think Vince McMahon was on the same level as Kurt Cobain, OJ Simpson, Michael Jordan, Brittany Spears, or Eminem?
Vince was seen as one of the few people who could tap into the 18-35 demographic and was pulling in ratings that were unheard of for wrestling. Hell, he parlayed that into starting the XFL which did have hype until everyone saw how shit it was. Still, he was up there for a while.
you're delusional. you could argue for Austin or Rock, maybe even the NWO, but no one cares about Vince
Go on then. Defend your point.
Japan barely had access to WWF in the 90’s. That’s literally why tape trading existed.
People in Soviet bloc countries knew Metallica despite their music being banned. It’s called being over.
Russian rock music had been thoroughly supressed for decades. The Western stuff was on a different level, so it got over way more.
Japan had better pro-wrestling than the US for most of Kota's lifetime, and Vince's actual matches are hardly the sort of thing a serious wrestler who didn't understabd English was going to study.
Also, is this really so unusual? Frick, I know who Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick are. Both are bigger stars and more important than Vince, and I still couldn't recognize them off the street.
Vince McMahon and Japan aren’t Metallica and the Soviet Union. I don’t know why it’s a debate. Japan barely gave a shit about Austin in 98, let alone Vince.
Vince was not a cultural icon of the 90s lmao
why would anyone think Vince would be famous in Japan? He's barely famous in America. Be like asking some kid in 1998 who Ichiro was
How many people in the USA know who Antonio Inoki is (even wrestling fans)? How many people in the US watched the Hashimoto vs. Takada feud in the 90s?
Is Twitter just entirely populated by the dregs of humanity who cannot into basic thought exercises?
yeah no shit its like asking the average american who inoki is
>people who don't care about wrestling don't know who Vince McMahon is
Wow no way! Most people on earth don't know who Vince or any wrestling personality is. Dave is hardly a reliable source on market research for the entire nation of Japan, and all of his Japan news is always wrong.
Why are you gay?
Meltzer is equating "famous" with "being stopped on the street" people in Japan know who Vince is even if they can't guess his name.
Just because you know who someone is doesn't mean you'll recognize 'em. I know who Bob Rock is, and I still couldn't recognize him off the street. Frick, I know who Ridley Scott is, and I couldn't recognize him off the street.
There was a guy who pretended to be Stanley Kubrick for years to get free meals and sex despite looking nothing like Kubrick because most people actually have no idea what the frick Stanley Kubrick looks like.
If they don’t know his name he isn’t famous
>he thinks all "fame" is the same
A majority of people don't know what the "Charlie bit me" kids name is either, but they definitely know of him
yeah everyone remembers a meme video from 20 years ago. anyone remember "little superstar"?
YIKES
Meltzer is a liar
Meltzer is right.
The only reason japs know who any attitude era guys is because of Hollywood slop movies. Vince is not in any movies.
Why would non-wrestling fans in Japan know who he is? It would be like Americans knowing the exec of some random fricking Japanese aftershave company