Western boxing is an internal kung fu style

You will hate this but it's true. Especially pugilism and early modern boxing until the 1950s or so.

>Weightlifting is frowned upon, instead you need to develop a special kind of explosive force with obscure exercises
>Emphasis on attacking the internal organs instead of breaking bones
>Development of full body power
>Claims that the practice is very healthy but will ruin your health if you overdo it or train wrong
>Secret knowledge passed down among teachers
>A boxer should be able to beat up much bigger, stronger men
>Concept of using skeletal structure instead of athletic muscular force (power line a la Dempsey or Monstery)
>Emphasis on relaxation instead of tension
>Yielding is called rolling with the punches
>Emphasis on solo work for gaining correct techniqe (Shadow boxing)
>Mostly about Dim Mak (Hitting vital points like jaw, temple, solar plexus, liver, heart...)

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ok.

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Western boxing is an internal kung fu style
    Today, "kung fu" implies an Asian "martial art" that exists despite not actually live sparring to verify the effectiveness of technique. Western boxing is the exact opposite.

    TLDR: Kung Fu is Chinese garbage and inferior to western boxing, Muay Thai, and even kick boxing.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kung Fu does not imply Martial Art or Asian origin, its a term in Chinese meaning Great Skill. "In its original meaning, kung fu can refer to any discipline or skill achieved through hard work and practice, not necessarily martial arts" Straight from Wikpedia.

      Gong Fu is what Kung Fu is called in Chinese, what you might mean is Kenpo (拳法 Fist-Law) or Karate (Empty Hand 空手) ultimately from the same origin of Chinese Hand/Karate: 唐手 (Tang dynasty hand) (Chinese Boxing basically.)

      >Draw your power from the earth, and turn your body into a whip
      Good stance, snap punches. Translations are often ass, on several points. Once you understand how many pre communism chinks liked to say very literal things in very overly prosey ways, you'll get a real appreciation for just how badly they fricked themselves in the long run. It's like an entire literary school was based around the Jap beat poet impromtu haiku shit.

      The reason was to hide the techniques from outsiders most likely, they were closed schools that practiced in secret or during night time so nobody else could learn their art. This happened to a Taichiquan school one time and the result? Yang style Taichi was formed after he demonstrated the applications well enough after being caught spying on their lessons.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Go back to

        [...]

        if you're just going to be a homosexual troll c**t.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it's yet another tcm copium thread

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >"kung fu" implies an Asian "martial art" that exists despite not actually live sparring to verify the effectiveness of technique
      There's a small Wing Chun school in the building I work at and those guys go to town on each other (no homo) for like 30 minutes 3 times a week.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        They suck and you suck

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >They suck
          God I hope so, the girls there are qt af, thinking of joining just for she/them.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          wing chun is fine homie

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he actually believes this

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            it is fine homie

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            it is fine homie

            Lol. Lmao

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    shhh don't let the people know that everything is real

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Draw your power from the earth, and turn your body into a whip
    Good stance, snap punches. Translations are often ass, on several points. Once you understand how many pre communism chinks liked to say very literal things in very overly prosey ways, you'll get a real appreciation for just how badly they fricked themselves in the long run. It's like an entire literary school was based around the Jap beat poet impromtu haiku shit.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I bet it was the cultural revolution, but indirectly. The usual narrative is that the CCP singled out martial artists specifically, but there is little evidence for this. Especially because Mao actually liked kung fu. What the CCP did do is pulverize the traditional Chinese institutions that placed supreme importance on familiarity with classical Chinese. Writing everything in an extremely flowery and poetic fashion was the sign of a scholar. Conversely, post-revolution it was the sign of a reactionary. Literacy changed to the straight to the point Marxist style and the resulting interpretations of martial arts manuals were overly literal and stupid. Kung fu was probably impractical in many ways, but with some decent fundamentals. Now it's impractical in every way with bad fundamentals. And we have simplified characters to blame.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Will ruin your health if you overdo or train wrong
    That's literally any form of physical exercise or technique ever
    Frick, not even physical
    That one guy in the Manhattan project who did supercritical experiments and fried his testicles for instance

    • 7 months ago
      Carlos

      I guess he became ...man-HAT'an (man hating) guy

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        You suck

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cheesy pugilism movies when?

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    you dont train

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    None of this is exclusive to kung fu or boxing. These are basic body mechanics

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is a bait thread, but I will say that boxing has a fair degree of garbage training and superstition. Kung fu is garbage but people who think boxing or western martial arts in general are 100% scientific are kidding themselves.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >boxing has a fair degree of garbage training and superstition
      Such as?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Cus D'Amato was a firm believer in astrology and thought fighters from certain signs had more potential
        >Jack Dempsey used to brine his face since he thought it made it tougher and more resistant to cuts.
        >Dempsey also chewed pine tar gum to make his jaw stronger
        >Muhammad Ali and Manny Pacquiao both abstained from having sex with their wives in the leadup to a fight due to the common boxing superstition that sex before a fight would weaken you
        >Tyson Fury jacked off 7 times a day before his rematch with Deontay Wilder to boost his testosterone

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Cus D'Amato was a firm believer in astrology and thought fighters from certain signs had more potential
          >what is relative age effect
          Remember, the frogs were gay from the start.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Muhammad Ali and Manny Pacquiao both abstained from having sex with their wives in the leadup to a fight due to the common boxing superstition that sex before a fight would weaken you
          Anon that’s the truth though. You have to withhold and cultivate your chi.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Speedbag

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Actually useful for timing training

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, it's mindless
            You go by rhythm and sound

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >bro it’s not training your timing your just using rhythm

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Timing, in a fighting context, isn't rhythm. Rhythm is bad if anything, that's called being predictable. Timing is actually capitalizing on your opponent's predictability and hitting them in brief, vulnerable moments. A speedbag won't help you with that skill.

            Best use-case I've seen argued is that it helps strengthen the muscles used to keep your hands up. The first thing to prune from training though if you have to. They are fun to get good at too. That's something.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yup this it helps you roll your fists longer/train your shoulders to not tire out and faster jabs, double end/Reflex bag is better for the type of training you are looking for.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          double end bag is much better option in a full sized gym for sure.

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