>What's the point in learning a martial art if I can just carry a gun?

>What's the point in learning a martial art if I can just carry a gun?

Why is this moronic statement so frequently used?

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    they're being silly gooses and probably don't even carry a gun either, because a gun is a martial art
    you need to practice with it just like the swordsmen of antiquity needed to
    when you're practicing your draw and dry firing you're doing a gun kata
    you need to run drills and throw rounds down range because you can't miss fast enough to win a gun fight
    also importantly you need to have at least a sub 2 second draw to first shot or your gun is just a melee weapon with a noise maker attached

    and lemme tell ya sport, if you don't have a draw thats both fast and accurate you better know how to wrassle because you just introduced a gun into the situation and the other guys hands are already on it

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    A gun is great to de-escalate a situation but terrible for self-defense
    You'll scare off 99% of possible attackers by flashing your gun, but if someone is actively attacking you, a gun is no better than a knife. Life isn't a Clint Eastwood movie where you quick draw and drop the guy in one shot, if you have reason to shoot somebody, it means he's already on top of you. Guns are made to shoot things far away, not someone on your face.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don’t ever post anything related to firearms or self defense again. If you have guns turn them in before you get yourself killed or arrested.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        This.

        A gun is great to de-escalate a situation but terrible for self-defense
        You'll scare off 99% of possible attackers by flashing your gun, but if someone is actively attacking you, a gun is no better than a knife. Life isn't a Clint Eastwood movie where you quick draw and drop the guy in one shot, if you have reason to shoot somebody, it means he's already on top of you. Guns are made to shoot things far away, not someone on your face.

        You have never even held a gun before in your life.
        >A gun is great to de-escalate a situation but terrible for self-defense
        A gun ESCALATES the situation. The moment you draw a firearm, you're goal is to kill, not to scare people you fricking moron. The rules of firearm safety specify - do NOT aim your gun at anything you're not willing to destroy.

        If you bring a gun out, even in a self defense situation, the other fricker can and will do the same if given the opportunity.

        >You'll scare off 99% of possible attackers by flashing your gun
        Attackers are violent, irrational creatures. You have never held a gun before, I can tell by you saying this.

        >Life isn't a Clint Eastwood movie where you quick draw and drop the guy in one shot
        Who says you shoot the guy once? If you're at the point in an attack where you're goal is to kill, you unload your fricking clip and make sure nobody else is on your ass. The fact that you're saying this is irrefutable proof you've never held a gun in your life.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You'll scare off 99% of possible attackers by flashing your gun
      ehehheh hhhahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fatties want to believe they’re superior without putting in any effort. It’s no different from the morons who say
    >heh, so you think you can beat me cuz ur a boxer? Well what will you do when I bite you
    As if no heavyweight champion boxer ever bit a motherfrickers ear off.

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a cope.

    If someone who knows extensive martial arts has a gun pointed at their head, they'll fight to take it. Unless the gun is standing 20 feet away or is behind you and executing you, the gun is no better than them.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Absolutely moronic statement, I can pull the trigger waster than you can move your arm.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pull the trigger at what? Inside your pant leg?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        But can you pull the trigger faster than I can slip to the side while moving my arm to parry yours, factoring in reaction time? Probably not

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Lmfao, Mac is that you?

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          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            If its within arms length, what I said is absolutely true. Are people in general really going to aim for the head if they're in safe drawing distance? They'll aim for center of mass

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Stop watching Detroit urban survival before you get yourself killed

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            idk, never watched that guy. I know he got punked by sean strickland trying to do whatever it was

            If I turn my drawing side away, and use my off hand to parry your parry, I can attack from a "bow and arrow" stance and you'll be cooked

            By the time you've thought to counter my parry, I've already moved into your personal space, and you might only have a 50/50 chance of getting a shot off

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          If I turn my drawing side away, and use my off hand to parry your parry, I can attack from a "bow and arrow" stance and you'll be cooked

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Clears hand, hugs around body pinning far side arm, tani otoshi to the ground and landing in top position in your path :^)

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have a question as a nogunz here,

    How the frick can you walk around, run around, move or work with anything when you have a handgun on a side of your body? Seems kind of like a b***h to do anything until the 1 possible situation you may ever use it comes around.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sub compact carried appendix with loose fitting clothes
      Yes it's uncomfortable but most CCW guys are obese anyway so it sits under their gut flap

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Yes it's uncomfortable but most CCW guys are obese anyway so it sits under their gut flap
        It's fairly comfortable if you're not fat and have the right holster setup. It's easier for fat guys to carry on the hip or the small of their back.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Holster? I just tuck in the back of my belt

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are guns made smaller specifically for concealed carry purposes it’s not hard at all. 90% of the time I keep a snub nose .38 in my front pocket which makes it even easier.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't go to the bad neighborhoods and am bigger then most guys.
      I am pretty competent with a firearm but do not see the need to carry it around, and don't want to kill people.
      Since in my mind it's a last resort, and if I am drawing I or the one I need to kill is dead.

      Honestly training to run would be more useful, since then I could out run the opponent and get home.

      Most who carry have a smol gun as others posted. A slim gun like a 1911 or other single stacks won't print if you wear a bigger coat/are fat+loose clothing, or have an odd holster. Last decade there has been a proliferation of equipment, firearms, and training for CCW

      they're being silly gooses and probably don't even carry a gun either, because a gun is a martial art
      you need to practice with it just like the swordsmen of antiquity needed to
      when you're practicing your draw and dry firing you're doing a gun kata
      you need to run drills and throw rounds down range because you can't miss fast enough to win a gun fight
      also importantly you need to have at least a sub 2 second draw to first shot or your gun is just a melee weapon with a noise maker attached

      and lemme tell ya sport, if you don't have a draw thats both fast and accurate you better know how to wrassle because you just introduced a gun into the situation and the other guys hands are already on it

      fpbp

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >A slim gun like a 1911 or other single stacks won't print if you wear a bigger coat/are fat+loose clothing
        It's 2024. We have sub-compact 9mm wonder weapons that are slightly bigger than an average male's hand that can hold 15 rounds and smaller in width than a single stack 1911. It's ridiculous.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's easier and more comfortable to carry a gun in a secure holster than a large modern smartphone in your pocket. Inside-the-waistband holsters keep the gun very out of the way but still easy to draw. Outside-the-waistband holsters vary based on the activity they're meant for--competition holsters stick out a lot so your body doesn't get in the way of a fast draw but concealment holsters hug your body closely.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is this moronic statement so frequently used?
    Because people are idiots. Dunning-Kruger effect on display. Anyone saying this has not fully considered the issue. Look into Craig Douglas and Shivworks for a really interesting look at the intersection of empty handed skills and weapons craft.

    Say what you will about Icy Mike, but he actually does a pretty good job of running down the Shivworks courses he's attended:

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  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >learning martial arts for "self-defense"
    moron-kun...

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    My solution is to just live in a country where violent crime rates aren't on par with 3rd world countries.

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I'll just grapple your gun arm an-
    What now homie

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fug

      I uh... Uh... Kick you? Frick I don't know...

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just live in a country without violent Black folk

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    test

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    fat lazy americans

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