Which is the better team?
England will probably be the first in the group. 2nd place is a battle between Wales and USA.
Which is the better team? England will probably be the first in the group. 2nd place is a battle between Wales and USA.
Which is the better team?
England will probably be the first in the group. 2nd place is a battle between Wales and USA.
It all depends on Bale’s form leading up to the game.
>England will probably be the first in the group. 2nd place is a battle between Wales and USA.
Those are big assumptions. Every game in this group is unpredictable and could go either way.
Iran
They are equally matched. Hard tl sqy.
*hard to say.
evidently
Not equally matched at all, one team has 8 Champions League starters in top 5 leagues, the other has one man and a group of sheepfrickers
Ramsey?
>CM: Weston Mckennie, Juventus, USA
Reason: Literally benched Ramsey at Juventus. Mogged him so bad he ended up at Rangers, Ramsey is also 31. Mckennie is lock starter in Juventus midfield, and experienced Champions league starter. 55 games in Serie A, 75 games in Bundesliga, 19 champions league games
ramsey is also injured constantly, which plays a major role. i also didn't ask about your autism xi. you lumped ramsey in with "sheepfrickers". no credibility.
Where did I ever say Ramsey and sheepfricker? Are you ok bro? Was it a stroke?
this post, unambiguously (
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to which I responded "ramsey?" (
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at which point you brought up your combined xi that nobody cares about.
Nah bro that wasn't me. Might be time to take the meds.
so you responded to me about your xi, even though i was asking a different poster a different question? one of us probably does need meds.
Seems like it was a lazy way to use my hard work typing out that post and to simply copy paste a reply to you.
I would've typed out a long winded reply instead of copy paste.
Meant for:
that's still not a response that makes sense, though. unless you are agreeing that ramsey is a random sheepfricker.
>England will probably be the first in the group
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____England
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waleS
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>waleS
>Not Sheepshaggers
Apply yourself
England
Arabs
Sheepshaggers
Yanks
Iranians aren't Arabs.
Can use "Aryans" though.
Arabs is better though.
Adds that scent of ignorance to the mix.
England
Americans
Swansea
YALLAHOAKBARALLAHUAKBAR
USA is better than Wales in terms of player quality but Wales has the luck of thy yryshw
INGURLAND INGURLAND INGURLAND
Pretty evenly matched
Group is kino beyond all kino thought possible
America has a few talented youngsters, but we have more quality experienced players who'll get it done
USA should beat Wales imo, pound for pound. Bale and Ramsey will be even more unfit come November/December since they won't find clubs willing to pay them millions to sit around doing nothing
Wales have a bottom half PL forward line even without Bale and Ramsey memes. What do the USA have except some kids in big Euro academies? They sent two regulars on loan to Swansea last season and they were fricking shit (one maybe looked okay until his knee exploded lol)
Hahaha you are so clueless.
>USA
11 Champions League G/A this season
>Wales
0 Champions League G/A this season
You are literally white Jamaica + Bale
>wales
>white
Seems like Welsh football knowledge level is considerably less than Bong football knowledge level
I had a stroke reading this
Bale is the only player who would start for USA
To be fair, Ben Davies and Joe Rodon might as well, and Dan James and Harry Wilson would be good rational players. But pretty much true
Watch USA vs Uruguay in a couple hours and you'll have your answer
Usa last in the gruop.
i would have said wales, but they looked like shit today
i believe in gregg can pull if off
USA will top the group with 9 points. I don't think any of you any any idea of how good their talent pool currently is. England is meme team with no attacking identity whatsoever. Its clear that without a strike partner, Kane is a lost cause and teams have started to figure out cross spamming. When it comes to gritty defending and grinding out a result and the other teams are more capable than them. They will be bottom, I guarantee it.
Young teams with budding quality always underperform
Aside from Pulisic, what do they have?
Watch USA vs Uruguay in 2 hours from now. Bring popcorn.
Gio Reyna, Mckennie, Tyler Adams, Steffen, Richards, Dest etc.
>Gio Reyna
Unironically dead
>Mckennie
Don’t Juventus want him gone?
>Tyler Adams
Who?
>Steffen
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAGAGAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHA
*snort*
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHahahah ok I’m done
>Richards
Huh?
>Dest
Dani Alves’ sub?
>I don't think any of you any any idea of how good their talent pool currently is
we do, we've seen how shit pulisic is for chelsea and he is the best of the bunch.
based tnt chad
Based TripAdvisor and Trivago, you are our greatest ally
It's probably worth pointing out that when McKennie, the one US player that you guys argue could get into the England team, played against a bunch of second-string English players (James, CHO, Chalobah, Chilwell and Loftus-Cheek), it didn't end well
Also worth mentioning that, despite starting up front for that team, Pulisic (the second best US player) neither registered a goal nor assist (unlike 4 of the english players) and wasn't even mentioned in the match report
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59379437
In fact, it seems that McKennie's place in Juventus is more an indication of their downward spiral than the quality of young American prospects - his first year with the club was the first time in almost 10 years that they didn't win Serie A, which until that point had become known on here as "juvewinslol", and their champions league runs were laughable
>mogged by Villareal
>vanquished by Porto's boomer army
America's best player, this almighty galactico, is nothing more than a symbol of his team's slide into mediocrity
>4 years ago
This is absolutely pathetic
That's from this season and last season mate, what are you on about?
>mfw that McKennie miss for Chelsea's fourth goal
Mckennie was Juventus best midfielder and is considered top 3 midfielder in Serie A
I could post 50+ highlights of his from last 2 years
If Mckennie is so shit, then what does that make Ramsey?
Ramsey was benched by Mckennie, and shipped off to Rangers LOL
I'm pic related so not too fussed about Ramsay's credentials
Having said that, wouldn't this be the same Rangers team who did this to Reyna's Dortmund?
& this to Adams' Leipzig?
Not to be a completely smug prick here, but did any Americans actually have a good season this year?
Mckennie was having an outstanding season and being raved about in Italy until he got hurt on a dirty play he missed the last 3 months of the season.
English never rate anyone until he plays in England. I welcome his move to Tottenham. He has been doubted at every single place he's arrived at, and violently won them over. He will do the same to you. Even Mexicans say he's great.
Fair enough, hope you're right
So it seems like your best 3 are McKennie, Pulisic and Reyna - is there anyone else coming up through the pipeline that it'd be worth keeping an eye on? Maybe Musa?
Our players who arent memes and real talent:
>Aaronson
just moved to Leeds, had 2 assists vs Bayern in UCL, top 1% pressor in world via analytics. Has real skill. You'll get to see him in England.
>Musah
Outstanding box to box 8. Valencia plays him at winger, not sure why. He is incredible in midfield. Looked like best player on the pitch vs Uruguay. Rated top 10 U20 in world by top 5 league minutes.
>Reyna
Our most talented player. Permainjured the last year. Genuinely top 5 U19 in the world. Hopefully he fixes injury problems.
>Pulisic
You already know
>Adams
Solid defensive midfielder, looks like moving to Leeds possibly
>Chris Richards
Bayern Munich. Played for Hoffenheim on loan lasts season, made team of season. Naggelman said he will get time for senior Bayern team this season. Big year coming.
>Tim Weah
Lille, Has always shown in flashes but never consistent, and was skinny and weaker side. He has grown into body, added muscle. He finished the last 2 months with Lille with 5 G/A. He ran all over Uruguay
We have tons of younger players in other top 5 league teams, but these are the players that have genuine ability and already playing lots of minutes
Is LDLT getting looks from other teams as a possible transfer? I know he’s 24, so a little bit older than a lot of the young talent, but he always looks so impressive in the few minutes he receives.
McKennie is genuinely one of the worst midfielders in Serie A. He would struggle to get a game for Birmingham
We'll finish above Englel in the group, like we always do.
Both lose to England.
USA and Wales draw with each other.
Wales progress because they beat Iran who hold USA to a 0-0.
Unironically this
USA will be 1st, they have been getting better for a long time, England are stagnant tbqhwyf
England just lost to Hungary the USA could very well take the 1 spot in that group.
USA lost to Canada and Costa Rica
Yes that same Hungary that drew both France and Germany and was arguably the better team against the latter.
Who are you anyway?
>checks flag
Lol. Lmao even.
Absolutely terrified of losing to the US, we wont hear the end of it
Some of you guys are really setting yourself up for it too
If you're not setting yourself up for mockery you're not an England fan
thats like lubing up your ass cuz u never know when you'll get raped lmao
>american cannot stop thinking about anal sex
Iran
I never want to be in a group with USA again they make it so uncomfy. Can’t wait to just 4-0 them and be done with it
You’ve never beaten us in competition
>they make it so uncomfy
That means it's working Nigel 😉
The pressure is all on you guys. You made it to the finals last year in the Euro Cup or whatever, and we barely care for soccer.
The pressure is on us literally every match we play. It's either a team we'd expect to beat, or giant of football like Brazil or Germany. Either way, big pressure
You guys are fricking shit and Southgate is wearing thin. Enjoy the 2-0 loss to us
I imagine it's like that for bongs, but for me, it's the most fun group
we'll cruise the group. have a big win against some mid-tables shitters like denmark or switzerland in the ro16 then lose to the first top tier team we run into.
waistcoat gets a 10 year contract extension because he says the right things about racism.
wales are a good bit better than usa
Wales aren't close to us, I expect an easy 3-0 win unless Bale does something
Iran and USA being in the same group is pure kino
USA will finish last in the group.
The best player is power club replacement level, prone to injury, and of uneven disposition. The "young talents" are all respectively failing when given power club opportunities. And there is no sign of the "us against the world" grit of Dempsy's teams.
Aside from his unlikely affinity for ghetto affectations, Clint Dempsy remains the gold standard for USMNT. These kids today are all hype.
>Amerisharts actually think they are better than Wales
TOP KEK.
Here's a combined USA/Wales XI
I was really generous too and didn't put Turner over a championship goalie, even though I know Turner is better
I didn't include Aaronson for USA either
Wales is literally white Jamaica + Bale.
It's all English championship players + 2 PL players + SPL
They can be in denial all they want or talk about how they're great together all they want. They're going to get fricking mogged by meth press all the same.
I used diamond because both countries have absolutely dogshit strikers, USA has better than Wales, but still shit
Wales, hands down.
Which team out of this group is the most /strongmind/?
iran or wales
wales
USA wins group, Wales finishes second
England finishes last
Why is britain allowed to bring its B and C, and sometimes even D, Team and even have them in the same group?
I'm honestly worried about what will happen to Wales manlet midfield against our Ngubus who press like they're on meth for 90 min
I genuinely hope they don't die
>England will probably be the first in the group
No, Wales and USA are going through.
USA vs Wales honestly won't even be a close game. We're one of worst possible matchups for them.
2-0 USA easily
USA/Wales official combined XI
ST: Jordan Siebatcheu, Young Boys, USA
Reason: 30 total goals, 5 in UCL, 3 in Europa this season
RW: Gareth Bale, WGM, Wales
Reason: None needed
LW: Christian Pulisic, Chelsea, USA
Reason: Experienced Champions league starter. Goals vs biggest clubs in world. I like that Johnson kid from Forest for Wales, but no where near Pulisic yet. Needs more time. Dan James another option, simply nowhere near Pulisic level, and experience. 74 EPL games, 90 Bundesliga games, 43 Champions League games.
CM: Weston Mckennie, Juventus, USA
Reason: Literally benched Ramsey at Juventus. Mogged him so bad he ended up at Rangers. Mckennie is lock starter in Juventus midfield, and experienced Champions league starter. 55 games in Serie A, 75 games in Bundesliga, 19 champions league games
CM: Brenden Aaronson, Leeds, USA
Reason: Champions League Knockout stage starter. 2 assists vs Bayern Munich in UCL. I could also put Yunus Musah here, or Gio Reyna here, or Ramsey here. Ramsey is 31 and Aaronson is flat out a better player right now and EPL starter.
CDM: Tyler Adams, RB Leipzig, USA
Reason: Over 75 Bundesliga games, over 14 Champions League games including goal on Champions League quartfinal vs Atletico Madrid
LB: Antonee Robinson, Fulham, USA
Reason: 28 EPL games, 130 EFL games, elite speed
CB: Ben Davis, Tottenham, Wales
Reason: 248 EPL games. 20 Champions League games. Good player. In his prime.
CB: Chris Richards, Bayern Munich, USA
Reason: Was team of year at Hoffenheim on loan, Naggelsman says Richards will be in line for Bayern Munich senior team this season. 35 Bundeslinga games, 3 Champions League games.
RB: Sergino Dest, Barcelona, USA
Reason: 51 La Liga games, 16 Champions league games
GK: Hennessy, Burnley, Wales
Reason: In the world cup because of him
>Jordan Siebatcheu
who?
The striker spot is pretty grim for both nations
Pefok
This was informative. How you recommended someone who never watches soccer to get into it? Thanks.
Following our players all over Europe is the fastest way to learn it all.
We have key players at:
Chelsea (Pulisic), Juventus (Mckennie), Barcelona (Dest), Borussia Dortmund (Reyna), RB Leipzig (Adams), Leeds United (Aaronson), Fulham (Robinson/Ream), Valencia (Musah), Gladbach (Scally), Lille (Weah), Augsburg (Pepi)
We also have a tons of players in the English Championship
Maybe soon to be key players for:
Bayern Munich (Richards, Tillman), Arsenal (Turner), Wolfsburg (Paredas), Feynoord(Bassett), Nottingham Forest (Mighten), and bunch others
Thanks!
Wales was fricking embarrassing yesterday, they'll maybe get 3 points against the US and lose the remaining games.
we are in the world cup and you are not. seethe Luigi.
they were still shite
Americans are always joked on for our international ignorance. It's quote the irony, that so many euros are completely ignorant to the USA team
I see Reggie Cannon in your squad and I can’t rate you. Also the same probably applies to you and Iran.
>you must suck because your 2nd or 3rd rb is bad
incisive analysis.
I’m ready for England to frick it up and end at the bottom of the group.
My autistic breakdown of USA each game:
>Wales
Wales will never see it coming. USA might be the worst possible matchup in the entire world cup for Wales.
USA does everything Wales does but better. Wales speed will be irrelevant vs USA, USA much better pressing team, and better transitional team. Both have great goalies. The entire country is ignorant to USA team and will expect them to win. They are outgunned in 9 of 11 positions. Wales will be shellshocked by the meth press. Their manlet midfield isn't press resistant, and might genuinely have their chests caved in on the day.
USA 3 Wales 1
>England
Off the back of the Wales win, the hype for this game will be insane. Which is a perfect storm of disaster for USA. The only way USA ever wins is if they get BTFO by Wales and England try to coast.
England takes the game very seriously after the Wales result. The entire English midfield is press resistant, they can completely eliminate USA spam cross with Slabhead. England are a terrible matchup for USA, as England are press resistant and elite in the air in the back. The only weakness for England is Pickford vs the cross.
This game is a humbling. England 4 USA 1
>Iran
Iran was good last world cup because of the great manager they had. Their midfield is slow and aging.
USA has elite pressing, and elite transition game, good in air, meh elsewhere
Terrible matchup for Iran. Our ngubu midfield will run wild and Iran doesn't have the ball ability and aren't press resistant
USA vs Iran would be similar score to USA vs Morroco. Add in the emotion and drama, and it'll be USA 2 Iran 0
USA finish with 6 points
Wales have no idea how badly their manlet midfield will be broken in half by the sheer power of bbc
England vs. USA will be even bigger in the US considering it happens the day after Thanksgiving. Everybody will be off work and in a patriotic mood.
I fear this too. England can pretty much cancel out everything we're good at. Might get ugly if England try hard.
England is fricked we have coach Northgate and he is going to rekt you
Trying to stay positive but I'm 96% sure berhalter is a complete moron in over his head and we'll go 0-1-2
I’m just happy that we don’t have to deal with Ukraine wienersmoking now
Yanks are delusional if they think they are getting out of the group, lets take it back to 2016 with a less strong team
Go look at World Cup 2010 table. USA finished first in almost identical table. Means nothing.
USA choked pretty bad in 2010. Should have scalped a poor England side, but let the occasion get to them. Should have beaten Ghana, but got psyched out by the hostile fans
>poor England side
England was ranked #4 in the world hahaha, thus the EASY meme.
Lampard, Cole, Gerrard walk into your current starting XI
What is this revionist bullshit?
>fifa wankings
>I have heard of these players, therefore it was a good team
England were a bad team from 2005-2017. Previous to that world cup they'd failed to qualify for Europe. Examine their results. A USA without a smolteam mentality would have beaten them
They were unbeaten in WCQ and were hyped for months before the World Cup
Stop making shit up
>They were unbeaten in WCQ
>the crushers of Kazakhstan
>the batterers of Belarus
>the annihilators of Andorra
There always is. Does hype mean a team is good now?
you can't seriously think anyone perceived England as the 4th best nation on earth pre-World Cup 2010?
do you think you were the 3rd best nation in the world before World Cup 2006?
There was enormous hype for England before the 2010 world cup
no there wasn't. it was the first World Cup i can remember where there was no hype. there was hype in 98, 2002, 2006, Euros 2004. didn't qualify for Euro 2008. we knew we were shit.
I'm betting on Iran, they almost fricked Spain and Portugal over, also the usual bribes