Why does the least effective martial art have the coolest training tool? Its not fair.

Why does the least effective martial art have the coolest training tool? It’s not fair.

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP's image not related.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      enjoy your arthritis

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Makiwaras are moronic; you're giving yourself arthritis for no reason. At least with the wing chun thing, you can do some pseudo padwork.

        Is this some sort of reddit thing? You eat a SAD diet and blame chronic inflammation on a wooden board?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ask yourself,
          Is makiwara some sort of reddit thing?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Morio Higaonna who has very conditioned knuckles has had them examined by doctors and they are in absolutely perfect health - enlarged and calloused, but no sign of arthritis.
            You giga Black person moron, do you realize how dumb you are
            >hurrr his hands are calloused, so obviously he has worse arthritis than I do!!1
            You'll get worse arthritis from tourniqueting your wrists and putting 8oz polyester pillows on them to train while eating zogslop.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Doesn't he use Chinese medicated herbal oil on his hands before doing conditioning as shown in a documentary?

            At 5:57. He's basically doing how Chinks conditioning themselves when doing Kung Fu.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Makiwaras are moronic; you're giving yourself arthritis for no reason. At least with the wing chun thing, you can do some pseudo padwork.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are plenty of effective forms of kung fu that use it too. Also, your definition of effective is probably based on moronic MMA standards & your view is too narrow. Kung fu can be very effective if you understand this..

    [...]

    Forms in kung fu are the same as kata in karate. Understand that they're idealized examples meant to teach a lesson. When these styles were made, it was patent that real fights don't go down like that. Just like how shooting a gun at a range or course isn't like real life, it's an idealized scenario that helps you pick up fundamentals.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kung fu is for losers who can’t fight lol

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >moron comments get low effort AI responses.
        >Cung Lee-A former Strikeforce Middleweight Champion, Cung Le is well-known for his Sanshou (a form of Chinese kickboxing that is part of modern Wushu) background. He successfully transitioned to MMA, showcasing striking techniques influenced by his Kung Fu training.
        >Li Jingliang-A prominent figure in the UFC Welterweight division, Li Jingliang has a background in Sanda, which is often considered a modern form of Kung Fu incorporating full-contact kickboxing, wrestling, and throws.
        >Zhang Weili-Former UFC Women's Strawweight Champion, Zhang Weili, has trained in traditional Chinese martial arts, including Shaolin Kung Fu and Sanda, which have influenced her striking and grappling techniques.
        >Muslim Salikhov-Known as "The King of Kung Fu," Muslim Salikhov is a UFC fighter with a strong background in Sanda. He's a multiple-time World Wushu Champion and has successfully incorporated his Kung Fu skills into MMA.
        >Roy Nelson-Although better known for his Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt, Roy Nelson also holds a black belt in Kung Fu. He has utilized his diverse martial arts skills in heavyweight MMA competitions.
        >Bas Rutten-A legendary figure in MMA and a former UFC Heavyweight Champion, Bas Rutten has trained in various martial arts, including Taekwondo and Kyokushin karate, and has been influenced by Kung Fu techniques, particularly in his striking.
        >Anderson Silva-Often considered one of the greatest MMA fighters of all time, Anderson Silva has trained in multiple martial arts disciplines, including Taekwondo, Capoeira, and Muay Thai. He has expressed admiration for Bruce Lee and the influence of Jeet Kune Do (a philosophy of martial arts heavily influenced by Lee's experience in Wing Chun, a form of Kung Fu) on his fighting style.
        These fighters have demonstrated the effectiveness of integrating traditional Kung Fu techniques into modern combat sports, showcasing the versatility and adaptability of martial arts.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Tl;dr name a king fu style that uses the wooden dummy and isn’t a dummy style for losers who can’t fight

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's not exclusive to 1 style dumbass. Have even seen other non-kung fu styles use it. I have seen them in mma gyms before. They're good for conditioning for any style. Dude, you're just a homosexual with a rage boner for chinese stuff & it's sad. Go leave if all you can contribute is little b***h shit.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Have even seen other non-kung fu styles use it. I have seen them in mma gyms before
            Why are you making things up anon?
            >Dude, you're just a homosexual with a rage boner for chinese stuff & it's sad. Go leave if all you can contribute is little b***h shit.
            Just name an effective kung fu style that uses it lol.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Muk yan jongs still get used in some sanda schools. Your definition of effective is obviously some homosexual MMA standard. Wing Chun is effective. Anderson Silva, Tony Ferguson, Alan Orr, Chris Collins, etc. They have all used elements of it. Just admit you're a racist little b***h.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Wing Chun is effective. Anderson Silva, Tony Ferguson, Alan Orr, Chris Collins, etc. They have all used elements of it.
            lol
            >Just admit you're a racist little b***h.
            Lmfao I’m racist because wang c**t is moronic like every other non-moron?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I looked up “sanda wooden dummy” on YouTube and there’s zero results with sanda guys training it. It’s all wing chun.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >if it's not on youtube it doesn't exist
            Picrel

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >just trust me bro
            Have you tried not being homosexual?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >can't understand that not everything in existence is filmed
            Ffs, kys.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >make claim
            >provide no evidence
            >call other people moronic when they call you out on your bullshit
            lmao

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah thats pretty much what you did though. Like yeah, wushu & wing chun get dramatized for hollywood a bunch but there are competitions for them that have way more sporty versions that get close to kick boxing. Bruce Lee competed before doing film. You're doing the same thing just jumping on the kung fu hate bandwagon, making generalized claims that aren't really true. I mean I can find you video of basic ass MMA amateurs get their shit handed to them cause they never trained hard enough, does that mean all MMA is useless, no. Better question is, why do you keep jumping threads just to start shit. You're the same queer shitting up the karate thread huh? Dude, you're so pathetic.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            absolutely destroyed him, nice

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Schizophrenic CCP agent replying to himself

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >it's not possible more than one person could disagree with me
            This might be hard to comprehend, but you're in the minority. Picrel.

            >But when you change the TMA it makes it viable in an MMA match!!!!
            >This proves TMA is adaptable
            First of all, no one claimed TMA was unadaptable, the claim is that TMA as it is taught is not useful for da streets, or their best analog, MMA matches (UFC in particular). This also doesn't actually prove the TMA of choice is actually adaptable, it just proves the fighter who adapted it was smart enough to realize what was bad about it and what needed to be changed

            Whole thread that moron has been arguing exactly that. Kata is basically karate shadow boxing & anyone who doesn't understand that is a fricking moron incapable of unbiased objective analysis. It has ALWAYS been understood that kata are not what it will come out as in a fight. Katas are the ordered rehersal of what will end up being the chaotic performance. Tired of having to explain this to a bunch of smooth brains.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            You made a claim that a bunch of different styles use the wooden dummy not just wing chin. If that’s true just post some evidence you fricking gay.
            >mma is just like king fu because beginners sometimes lose
            Mma involves a lot of different martial arts styles but you never see traditional kung fu styles getting utilized in high level mma. At least TMA karate guys can point to lyoto machida. Who does wing chin/kung fu have?
            >BUT ANDERSON SILVA WATCHED IP MAN ONCE THAT MAKES HIM A WING CHUN FIGHTER
            lol, lmao even
            >you’re just jumping on a hate bandwagon 🙁
            Train a real martial art that wins fights and you won’t get made fun of, nerd
            >everyone who makes fun of me in every thread is the same person
            you’re embarrassing yourself

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sanda it's just kickboxing, there is nothing "kung fu" about it

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >being this confidently moronic
            It is the MMA form of KungFu and borrows a lot from its parentage.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sanda it's just kickboxing, there is nothing "kung fu" about it

            Forgot pic

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's nothing Brazilian about modern BJJ. Doesn't mean we stop calling it that.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          And that was like 20 years ago when legit tough guys were doing TMAs. You don't see actual fighters doing TMAs anymore; that bifurcation has been one of the results of the MMA revolution.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >But when you change the TMA it makes it viable in an MMA match!!!!
          >This proves TMA is adaptable
          First of all, no one claimed TMA was unadaptable, the claim is that TMA as it is taught is not useful for da streets, or their best analog, MMA matches (UFC in particular). This also doesn't actually prove the TMA of choice is actually adaptable, it just proves the fighter who adapted it was smart enough to realize what was bad about it and what needed to be changed

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    So effective style of kung fu is watered down muay thai? Got it.

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