Why is it so rare for a GOAT tier player to successfully transition to coaching? Really cant think of anyone but him and Cruyff
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Why is it so rare for a GOAT tier player to successfully transition to coaching?
People still forget that Ancelotti had an illustrious playing career.
Bald fraud used to have hair and be elite
>today I will remind them
Guardiola was just above average
Deschamps had a monster career as player, monster career as coach as well. If he wins this year's euro he might as well be considered the most succesful coach of all time.
Deschamps is a long step behind Zidane and Cruyff, both as a player and as a coach
What color is Zidane and Cruyff world cup ?
Idk but your colour is yellow
underrated
At no point in his entire playing career was Deschamps considered elite, he was a water carrier for better players as a great man once said.
water carriers stay on the bench
>won two Champions Leagues with two different clubs, one World Cup and one Euro
>did so as a key player or captain, always starting all the games
>not elite
Meanwhile your “great man” has 0 Champions League, 0 World Cup and 0 Euro.
you do realise that this criteria works for Jose Bosingwa too right
No it doesn't. Nowhere near as important to Chelsea and Porto as Deschamps was to Juventus and France. Wasn't captain, wasn't picked every game, and didn't win anything for Portugal.
He played 90 minutes in both CL finals he won and winning with france is easy mode
Zidane is not a good coach
I know little about his managerial career but I get the feeling he coasted on a pre built team and money then fricked off before he was found out
zidane is a great coach and he did a wonderful job in the two periods he spent here
he also wasn't a good player
wat
what are you talking about? he literally buck breaks chicanos because he's better than penaldo and messi.
holy scatalan cope
>3 Champions in a row
Brainlet
Cruyff turn
Half Zico
Goated
Is Zico still in Japan? I haven't kept up with him in a few years. I've never seen the Jap league and am curious to watch some of their games.
Beckenbauer
Alonso literally in his first season put them all to shame lol
Also beckenbauer you moronic frick
Heynckes was also a top plaer in his time
Turns out you are just a zoomer idiot
you can't tell if a coach is good if he was in only one club
because coaching isn't the same as playing
When you're really good and you have people being shit, sometimes it's hard for you to understand why they're being shit and why they can't just play normally. If you get stuck on this it makes coaching people who are worse than you pretty difficult.
there aren't that many goat tier players, plenty of great players are great coaches.
Guardiola won a UCL for Barca as a player.
Franz Beckenbauer won WC as coach and player, and won Bundesliga even with HSV. Won old CL as player and Uefa Cup as manager.
Alonso seems next tbh. And once he retires,I think Müller will take up coaching.
a bag of shit could slot in as the Real Madrid manager and get talked about as being one of the best managers of all time
>breaking: rafa benitez compared to a bag of shit. how does this affect arsenal's title hopes?
what about xavi and guardiola?
> GOAT tier player
>Xavi
GOAT midfielder but shit coach, Koeman-tier
>Guardiola
GOAT manager for sure, but only just good as a player
Alonso, Beckenbauer, Deschamps, Luis Enrique, Bilardo, Rijkaard.
managers arent THAT important as you think guys
Coaching and playing require completely different skillsets
They can, but it's not a requirement. I grew up playing competition soccer and what really matters is the basics; conditioning, touch, and familiarity. Strategy for set plays is coached after those three are, and sessions usually lasted 3-4 hours every day. Finding people to actually put in the work when they're being paid millions of dollars and have other obligations for media shit can wreck a team just with the distractions alone.
Any good player will tell you all you have to do is play keep away, and move to space when you don't have the ball. That's it outside of set plays. The rest is knowing your team mates in a way that you don't have to think what they're going to do, you know, and anticipate. That part is very underrated, from experience playing for a club for multiple years with the same players, we beat the local community colleges as a u13/14/15 every year because we had already had multiple years playing together prior to that.
you're a moron if you think managing a pro team and coaching kids is similar. not even fricking close
what part of million dollar contract and media obligations did you miss?
Coaching a team how to play soccer is shit easy, it's all the other bullshit you have to deal with.
stop blogposting and don't be a moron. no one cares about the kids team you coached and it has nothing to do with managing a real team
I never coached lol, do you even read? This sport isn't that complicated.
Guardiola?
Lampard
Fat Frank comes to mind
because they were the only ones to have tried
some of the names said here can be considered as great players in their day, club legends that can even be considered underrated today, but they were never among the true elite
Beckenbauer is the only other one that is in their tier, but of their tier i can only think of maradona as another who tried it, and hes the only one in 4 to have failed
John Mousinho, top player and now top manager.
How many trebles tho