if no NBA expansions were made during the 90's and the league continued with its 23 competitors like it was troughout most of the 80's ? (6 teams were added during 1990-1995) imagine talent like S. O'Neal, Penny Hardaway, Alonzo Mourning, Kevin Garnett, Stephon Marbury, Chris Webber, Larry Johnson having to be drafted by one of those teams, i think the possibility to have a fully stacked team with future HOF like Lakers or Boston or Philly had troughout that period would have continued and imagine having to go trough at least 2 adversaries in the playoffs that have in the starting 4 only future HOF & All Star material ?
2nd question that is somehow related to 1st : would Michael Jordan legacy suffer if the flagrant foul rule wouldn't have been adopted in the 1990-1991 season ? before then any type of foul, no matter the level of aggression was counted as an ordinary foul and it's no wonder Jordan begun to win championships starting with the season when rule was put in place and the superstar refball also started to play its part.
What legacy he had a super team and beat dish washers and plumbers
Lakers, Blazers, Suns, Sonics & Jazz teams were weak ? my point is that they weren't that weak but weakened in their possibility to attract better talent, the same for Chicago as well of course but given MJ difficult personality i'm not sure how many superstars would've preferred to be in the same team with him, remember MJ during his playing career wasn't that well perceived by his peers (in terms of character) even Pippen disliked & holds some grudges towards him.
Jordan played in the golden age of the NBA when every team had a Hall of Famer playing for them
Every team had 1 hall of famer except for the Bulls that had 3. I wonder why he won so much
Jordan didn't win shit until Magic and Bird retired and the aging Pistons who routinely fricked him, could no longer compete.
Jordan won his first chip against Magic?
A magic with HIV
by the early 90s those in the know had figured out that protease inhibitors plus reverse transcriptase inhibitors rendered HIV into a nothing burger, hope you are vaxmaxxed though, for your our sake
Treatment for HIV/AIDS wasn't really available until 1995. HIV was pretty much a death sentence up until that point
>Jordan didn't win shit until Magic and Bird retired
he beat magic in the finals, you are a child and moronic
When Worthy and Kareem were injured/retired; he didn’t beat Showtime
cool, now explain the 5 other titles
The five titles that happened AFTER those men were gone and he got to feast on weak expansion teams?
Expansion teams inflating records of weak teams
The ones he won against none of the Pistons/Lakers or Celtics!? Jordan is a fraud
>against none of the Pistons/Lakers
chicago beat detroit en route to a title in 91, same year they beat LA, try harder
The year before IT was washed and retired and they never made it out the first round again? Lol expansion stripped that team of their depth as well, Jordan never beat healthy full dynasties
But I guess you don’t remember IT injuring his ankle in the finals because like all Jordan fans you weren’t around to see the context of his six rings
Michael Jordan had a all defensive big man in Horace Grant who put up better stats then Bosh did in the big 3 Heat. People forget that
IT?
Zeke
Isiah Thomas
Zoomers are clearly the Jordan gays, they are braindead
A man legendary for making a Michael Jordan so butthurt he kept him off the Dream Team by personal request
Jordan himself said he wasn't better than Bird or Magic in a 1997 interview, he also conceeded to Wilt that same year that Wilt was a better player, numerous players watched them argue the entire time and Jordan eventually gave up after Wilt stated rules were changed to help him
>numerous players watched them argue the entire time
who was arguing?
Jordan and Wilt
post it
Not going to spoonfeed you
The pistons weren't old, just tired from back to back. Look at their ages.
This was at a point in time when the average NBA career rarely lasted 10 years
It still doesn't. It's like 3-4 years at most
pacers had mullin and miller, jazz had malone and stockton, just because you have multiple stars doesnt automatically mean you are going to win
Lakers couldnt win even with rodman, shaq and kobe on the same team
Congrats, the marketing worked on you
You're thinking of Bill Russel
Everyone was on steroids aka 'golden age' was pretty tough back then
But enough about Wilt
He was talking about Bill Russel. Wilt only won 2 championships. The first was blind luck and the second was on a stacked Lakers team with Jerry West
The fact that they shortened the 3 point line for 2 whole fricking seasons just because everyone was so shit at making them is a clear indicator the 90s weren't talented. You could not do this today.
Yes, ynr he also won NCAA
I dont get al the Cuckitini and Jordantini bashing here. They were boat goths or I mean both goats. Just stfu already and try to figure out why your Romanschaft dyed their hair blonde during a wc. I guarantee you it was a gay-move constipated by one cheeky player.
they are closeted gays, 70% of the squad knew each other and spend a lot of time with each other since they were 15-16 years of age - back then during the communist era there were trials for the future of the national team troughout the whole country and they gathered the best players and kept them for 2-3 years in a somehow military base with and of course they developed hard feelings amongst each other and were turned into homosexuals, i sometimes think this was mostly an experiment of any sorts but who knows
Could they or some of them been abused in those trainingcamps for teens. I think were on to something here. Are there any records of suicides of players who went mental or had an endgame of that squad? Think about drunk driving and killing yourself or some rando gyppo pedestrian
no there aren't any tragic cases, but what's strange is that a lot of them went trough divorces in the last 20-30 years and never remarried and some of them are still single to this day.
They shortened the three point line during his time because nobody could hit them, and he played in a era where there was no Zone defence, so yes his legacy is fraudulent for playing in the weakest period for Basketball (The 1990s).
>that flag
>this post
No surprise there
Alright. On Britbong isle you noticed some suicides amongst players of those generations and Gazza type of self destructo.
Maybe these scandals will come out in the future in the press.
People seriously overrate the 80s like there were some sort of parity when it was the same top heavy teams that were stacked with Big 3 who came out of the conference every. it was the celtics in the east every year besides one year of sixers who added MVP Malone. In the west it was the Lakers every year besides choking real hard to the Rockets twice. The fact is superteams have always won dating back to the start of this semen slurping leauge
and this is also why Hakeem is the true GOAT 🙂
>it was the celtics in the east every year
they made the finals 5 times in the 80's....
the 76's made it 3 times
so its every other year...
the point is good teams in the 90's that Jordan faced in terms of stars in the starting 5 were much weaker than the teams from the 80's who battled for an NBA title
don't you consider that being literally kicked multiple times and this type of fouls being counted as regular fouls doesn't have an impact in the way you play your game ?
i'm not saying 80's basketball was much better i'm saying the conditions in which you could win a championship were harder, the hurdles that you needed to jump were a little taller
If the 3 point line existed during Jerry West's career, he'd be the undisputed GOAT
>6 teams were added during 1990-1995
who?
Minnesota, Vancouver, Toronto, Miami, Orlando & Charlotte
it was between 1988-1995 not 1990-1995 my bad
>it was between 1988-1995 not 1990-1995
ya thats why i was confused
forget expansion. if he simply didn't get suspended for gambling in his prime and had to take the back-to-back asswhoopings from hakeem instead, his legacy wouldn't have been a fraction of what it is now.
They win 8 straight if those homies didn't kill his father. Jordan haters should write those guys some letters.
Jordan didn't play vs literal plumbers but he did play against players who didn't take care of themselves and didn't apply sport science while he was early adopter of those stuffs
>6 rings b-but they all have an asterisk!
MJ has been retired for 2 decades and still makes people cope so hard lol
All titles have an asterisk except for the ones that >my team won
No one's debating titles moron, they're debating whether Jordan deserves to be considered the GOAT.
don't reply to me, I don't want to be contaminated by your stupidity and inability to read
Jordan's entire legacy relies upon using israeli propaganda and discrediting everyone from the 50s, 60s and 70s. No other sport does this, therefore he isn't the GOAT
Mj played against one man teams with their casts being plumbers and D-league players. Mj ain't the goat and I'm tired of pretending that he is
>Mj played against one man teams with their casts being plumbers and D-league players
only a subhuman zoomer could make a statement like this
Yeah look at this shit, Reggie Miller and literal cafeteria workers
chris mullin is a cafeteria worker?
The Davis Brothers, Smits, Reggie, & Mullins would destroy most of today's teams
This is beyond moronic.
Would Jordan not have also gotten more teammates that were solid or good?
i'm not sure about that, during his playing days his ego was all over the place, most of his teammates didn't liked him that much even Pippen holds some grudges towards him till this day, i'm not sure how many woul've choose to go to Chicago in the 1st place
Nobody liked playing with Jordan he was a degrading piece of shit, imagine Kobe Bryant but 10x worse
Expansion teams came in 88. The 88, 89 and 90 finals are frauds.
Prime Jordan wouldn't even make an NBA roster in 2022. All his athleticism came from steroids and he had zero outside shot.
to be honest during the 80's and early 90's very rarely teams relied on the outside shot, not more than 7 attempts per game
NBA now is pussified and no modern player would last a day in the league of the 70s, 80s, and 90s
Prime Tim duncan wouldn't make it in the league today.
Prime LeBron wouldn't make it in the league today
Zoomers are melting down again, Jordan played with illegal defence and a moved three point line. Any MVP calibur player today would dominate the 90s
I'm a boomer. I licked wilt's nuts back in 73' during an orgy.
Jordan is a Nike and Pippen babby