Ten German and Italian sides combined. Yet England gets to send only four teams... No Chelsea, no United, no Tottenham, no Newcastle... high brand multinational teams followed across the world.
The whole point of continental football is to make leagues inferior to the Premier league feel better about themselves so they don't lose all those markets
git good again, England and Spain. A few years ago, it would have been you. >Bologna possibly in Champions League instead
Well, I feel for you. But they are placed better than say Atalanta, Fiorentina, Lazio, Napoli that are/were in the current European tournaments.
Not sure, but I think they scraped the "UEL and Champions go into Pot 1" thing starting next year. Pots are kinda meaningless anyway since each team plays 2 teams from each pot - including their own.
They're actually pretty decent... Norwegian champions for a few times now. Pretty northern located too, would make for some kino material in November and December if Ceferin and POOEFA oblige which we all know means never kek.
No groups, 8 matches. It's gay.
9 club groups and you play everyone in your group once would be better. You should compete with the clubs you play against.
better than the obsolete 4X8 group stage, but this was the best solution.
also no more draws for the knockout stage, so the bracket will finally be balanced instead of the moronic format that sent inter and bvb/psg to the final thanks to a "weak side" of the bracket
>so the bracket will finally be balanced
I don't see how getting rid of the draw helps it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
if teams were seeded, madrid and city would probably have been #1 and #2 meaning that they cant meet before the final. also you cant have #2vs#3 and #1vs#4 before the semi-finals
How do you play 8 games then? You play 1 team in the other 3 pots twice, what are the other 2 games?
CL from next season on will basically be a league of 36 teams until the KO stage.
But unlike in national leagues, you will only play against 8 teams of those (2 from each of the 4 pots), 4 games at home, 4 away (but against 8 different teams, so no home and away legs)
The top 8 teams of the league table directly qualify to the Ro16, while the next 16 teams teams have to play another playoff round against each other for the Ro16 (losers go to the EL), while the bottom 12 teams are eliminated.
but will this affect the CL magic? One of the reasons CL is so desired to see is because it happens rarely, if it becomes normie tier... its prestige might get diluded.
I like it. Group stages are almost always boring. By the time two 2 top teams face each other they are already qualified and their match is meaningless.
What I did't like is that they added 2 extra games for the first round. No point of that
>losers go to the EL
Not anymore
whys are there pots if there won't be any groups?
So you don't play 8 bad rivals or 8 good rivals
So there's no real difference for ending up 9th-24th?
Only that you close at home, and 9th-16th teams will face a weaker rival
>why do we still have pots?
to have somewhat mixed selections. Each team needs to play against two very strong teams, two strong teams, two middly teams, and two weak teams (based on the coefficient) instead of having a random selection. That's a valid method to reduce the number of games played in a league compared to a round robin method.
>why do we still have cretins in charge of this?
you can't seriously complain about the holy UEFA? They can't do no wrong. Never.
Serious answer: It was a reaction to the Super League (and an opportunity to make more $$$ by increasing the number of teams).
>You play 8 different teams once >instead of preparing your room temp IQ ball kickers for 6 matches against 3 opponents you'll now have to do crash courses for 8 matches against 8 opponents
That'll just make the overall level of football drop when teams have less time to analyse their opponents and no way to adapt to them in a second game.
Tactics will become less important and the teams that already can afford the players with the highest individual skills will have even more of an advantage.
yeah but that whole 'group replacement' stage is a fricking nonsense now from entire concept anyway. You basically need to be trying to pretty hard to get knocked out - even if you finish 25-36th (in a table of 48) after 8 fricking games already, you still got yet another shot at it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
no wait, that should be: >even if you finish 17th-24th (in a table of 36) after 8 fricking games already, you still got yet another shot at it.
stoopid shit.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's impossible to land 17th to 24th if you lose all 8 games, you'll definitely be in the bottom 4
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
yeah and if you have 6 complete shitters who lose every game, and another 6 who win maybe 1 - you basically need a win (against the complete shitters) and a draw, this out of eight attempts, and you are still a contender. Its cashgrab meaningless fixture production
On the other hand it means that teams that can hire a billion "analysts" now have less of an advantage
I like to think this puts everyone on a more even level
>Tactics
What tactics? You either attack a lot or you defend a lot. You either press or you don't.
Football is not for tactical masterminds (pep callout).
Well, the coefficients determine how many CL spots your national league gets (there's no 5-year coefficient anymore, it will be determined each season)
The difference is that it is more games, so UEFA makes more money, so don't question it. It also means fewer big clubs get immediately punished for sucking ass, which happens to bring UEFA some more money
Man, is the procoked war in ukraine the best thing that has happened to their football? Look at motherfricking shaktar in cl, getting millions and millions injected into its bank account. Also many ukras nepotistically taken into the big leagues just because of that war context.
bullshit UCL
they should have vote for Super League but they chosed this, what a bunch of morons
Stop posting Florentino
Two weeks
Ten German and Italian sides combined. Yet England gets to send only four teams... No Chelsea, no United, no Tottenham, no Newcastle... high brand multinational teams followed across the world.
The whole point of continental football is to make leagues inferior to the Premier league feel better about themselves so they don't lose all those markets
git good again, England and Spain. A few years ago, it would have been you.
>Bologna possibly in Champions League instead
Well, I feel for you. But they are placed better than say Atalanta, Fiorentina, Lazio, Napoli that are/were in the current European tournaments.
what do the bold teams mean
also how many of those are actually champions
bold teams are the confirmed ones
Can't wait for the 18 simultaneous games in January
Can Leverkusen still make it into Pot 1?
Not sure, but I think they scraped the "UEL and Champions go into Pot 1" thing starting next year. Pots are kinda meaningless anyway since each team plays 2 teams from each pot - including their own.
Yes, winning next match will put them with the same coeficient as Barça. Even Roma can do it ending 5 at Serie A.
>stade brestois
Aleeeez
>bodo/glimt
the frick
Thanks to Football Manager, I know that club, who hired me or I would have the same reaction as you
>he wasn't here when bodo trashed Mourinho's Roma
They're actually pretty decent... Norwegian champions for a few times now. Pretty northern located too, would make for some kino material in November and December if Ceferin and POOEFA oblige which we all know means never kek.
So how does this work?
I'm still in denial that UEFA changed the SOVL groups format into this mess tbh
No groups, 8 matches. It's gay.
9 club groups and you play everyone in your group once would be better. You should compete with the clubs you play against.
better than the obsolete 4X8 group stage, but this was the best solution.
also no more draws for the knockout stage, so the bracket will finally be balanced instead of the moronic format that sent inter and bvb/psg to the final thanks to a "weak side" of the bracket
>so the bracket will finally be balanced
I don't see how getting rid of the draw helps it.
if teams were seeded, madrid and city would probably have been #1 and #2 meaning that they cant meet before the final. also you cant have #2vs#3 and #1vs#4 before the semi-finals
SOVL groups where every year you can accurately predict 14 of the 16 qualifiers.
24 club KO stage is bad though. Make it either 16 or 32.
The whole thing should be unseeded straight knockout, group stages are cancer.
CL from next season on will basically be a league of 36 teams until the KO stage.
But unlike in national leagues, you will only play against 8 teams of those (2 from each of the 4 pots), 4 games at home, 4 away (but against 8 different teams, so no home and away legs)
The top 8 teams of the league table directly qualify to the Ro16, while the next 16 teams teams have to play another playoff round against each other for the Ro16 (losers go to the EL), while the bottom 12 teams are eliminated.
The KO stage remains unchanged.
tldr:
>will see a 50% increase in number of matches
and everything else is meaningless and not exactly intuitive nonsense to justify above
but will this affect the CL magic? One of the reasons CL is so desired to see is because it happens rarely, if it becomes normie tier... its prestige might get diluded.
288 (two hundred and eighty-eight) games of football, to reduce 36 teams to 24
I like it. Group stages are almost always boring. By the time two 2 top teams face each other they are already qualified and their match is meaningless.
What I did't like is that they added 2 extra games for the first round. No point of that
>losers go to the EL
Not anymore
So you don't play 8 bad rivals or 8 good rivals
Only that you close at home, and 9th-16th teams will face a weaker rival
Grim
Only 4 more teams then current year yet Fhite chimps out like its the end of the world...
the formats fricking moronic
it's the moronic format that ruins it, dumbest shit ever
How do you play 8 games then? You play 1 team in the other 3 pots twice, what are the other 2 games?
AI will decide. Trust it.
your own pot? my question is how do they decide who plays who
>can get randomly assigned real madrid or bodo/glimt
You play 8 different teams once. I don't know how exactly they pick the matchups, they're going to draw them at random or with an algorithm.
why do we still have pots?
why do we still have cretins in charge of this?
why oh why
>why do we still have pots?
to have somewhat mixed selections. Each team needs to play against two very strong teams, two strong teams, two middly teams, and two weak teams (based on the coefficient) instead of having a random selection. That's a valid method to reduce the number of games played in a league compared to a round robin method.
>why do we still have cretins in charge of this?
you can't seriously complain about the holy UEFA? They can't do no wrong. Never.
Serious answer: It was a reaction to the Super League (and an opportunity to make more $$$ by increasing the number of teams).
>You play 8 different teams once
>instead of preparing your room temp IQ ball kickers for 6 matches against 3 opponents you'll now have to do crash courses for 8 matches against 8 opponents
That'll just make the overall level of football drop when teams have less time to analyse their opponents and no way to adapt to them in a second game.
Tactics will become less important and the teams that already can afford the players with the highest individual skills will have even more of an advantage.
yeah but that whole 'group replacement' stage is a fricking nonsense now from entire concept anyway. You basically need to be trying to pretty hard to get knocked out - even if you finish 25-36th (in a table of 48) after 8 fricking games already, you still got yet another shot at it.
no wait, that should be:
>even if you finish 17th-24th (in a table of 36) after 8 fricking games already, you still got yet another shot at it.
stoopid shit.
It's impossible to land 17th to 24th if you lose all 8 games, you'll definitely be in the bottom 4
yeah and if you have 6 complete shitters who lose every game, and another 6 who win maybe 1 - you basically need a win (against the complete shitters) and a draw, this out of eight attempts, and you are still a contender. Its cashgrab meaningless fixture production
On the other hand it means that teams that can hire a billion "analysts" now have less of an advantage
I like to think this puts everyone on a more even level
>Tactics
What tactics? You either attack a lot or you defend a lot. You either press or you don't.
Football is not for tactical masterminds (pep callout).
imagine how long the drawing ceremony will be
Super league failed so they made this out of spite
super league was a psyop to make people forget about this cancer format, it's the chink flu of football
>4 pots
>single group
>8 matches without repeating opponents
Huh?
>tfw you get Arsenal away and the team above you in the table gets Brugge at home
Doesn't seem fair tbh
Not really any different from some teams getting an easy group and some getting a group of deah
>Nooooo, it‘s not always the same 32 clubs!
Are you stupid? This is objectively good
Oh, I forgot about the new format. I tried erasing that from my mind. If you complain about that, then I apologize and agree
So what's the point of getting a good coefficient now if you play 2 teams from pot 1 regardless?
>So what's the point
let me just stop you there
Well, the coefficients determine how many CL spots your national league gets (there's no 5-year coefficient anymore, it will be determined each season)
Wait so if all the English teams went out in the groups for example we could lose 3 CL spots? Or are number of spots based on 5 years still?
>brits sweating
>that flag
France is barely better than portugal in uefa leagues
Yeah but we don't pretend to be good
Fair point. England underperforms in everything (uefa and fifa) every time.
3 of the last 5 CL winners were all different English teams
I don't remember those. Man city might have won once.
We are clear at the top of the coefficient table, reigning champs of 2/3 UEFA trophies and provided 6 out of the last 10 CL finalists
whys are there pots if there won't be any groups?
I came up with the idea for this format just to ruin football. How does that make you feel, Fhite?
>t. UEFA insider
you did a mans job here alright Mr football ruiner
Thank u for ur service
If your flag was American and signed off as “t. consultant at big 4”, it would be perfect bait
oh boy i cant wait for City to get the hardest opponents at home and the shittiest away, year after year
Trust the algorithm chud
So what? They are almost guaranteed to be top 8 in the group stage.
4-0 still hurt? always sad to see disgruntled customers
>inb4 man cheaty rig it so they play their 4 pot 1 and pot 2 games at home and their 4 pot 3 and 4 games away
I think you're guaranteed to play one home game and one away game per pot.
So there's no real difference for ending up 9th-24th?
The difference is that it is more games, so UEFA makes more money, so don't question it. It also means fewer big clubs get immediately punished for sucking ass, which happens to bring UEFA some more money
horrible
diluting the importance of each game with more matches just like in the american leagues
shant be watching it
>brest
>lille
It's fricking over for our coefficient points
Man, is the procoked war in ukraine the best thing that has happened to their football? Look at motherfricking shaktar in cl, getting millions and millions injected into its bank account. Also many ukras nepotistically taken into the big leagues just because of that war context.
Dinamo Kyiv was a household name in the CL groups for ages newțig
Abhorrent post.
Come on Breast